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2007-06-04T01:20:27Z

213.47.177.62: /* '''[http://www.sp-clan.com SP]''' */

== '''[http://www.sp-clan.com SP]''' ==

* surprise yourself :)

Ladle-12/Results

2007-06-04T01:17:09Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Twelfth Ladle */

{{Ladle-12}}

Write a report on your games, exciting play, team-tactics... and also include any feedback on how to improve the tournament!

== Feedback for the Twelfth Ladle ==
* ''' G5, Your other player zop wasnt even there when it started, it was 7 vs 7 and ur player never showed til the 2nd match. Thats besides the point u lost even worse when u had 8 vs 7 advantage in the end.

* '''Negative:''' This whole tournament stinks. The guidelines clearly state that a team is 8 members. If you dont have 8 it is your problem. TM was not able to play with 8 players because the X chickens had only 7 players. Come on, we played 5 vs 8 before. Boo on you, X! --G5

* °°ps versus tui was nice. well, i really do not know how was the "talking behaviour" of tui, since i silenced them all at start (as i usually do in ladles), but the game was nice. they won 2-0, the first match was really close and well played by both teams, in second we lost our mojo and we lost quickly. surely °°ps needs to work on some things but im quite satisfied. i hope we could get the ladle one day. i have no complain. good games. :) [[rain|rain]]

'''Rico ~ '''
The organisation left a little to be desired I found, with posts on the forums and edits on the challenge board right up until the match. This led to confusion over who was playing when and where.

In our first match, we played against SP, which we agreed was to be a 7 vs 7. We won 2 quite close matches, both around 100-70, and advanced to the semis where we would play TM. We again won in 2 matches, playing well together as a unit and completely whitewashing the 2nd match around 100-20.

@ G5 : Your team leader agreed to a 7v7, so please dont complain at us...

The final was against TuI who had beaten oops 45 minutes previously. They had plenty of time to take breaks and practise, yet a couple still insisted on delaying cos they needed a piss. Which was a little irritating but none the less, we pulled off from around a 92-80 defecit to win 100-98. We then promtly won the 2nd match around 100-70, starting to work together better in attack to pick off the sweepers. Halfway through the 2nd match, one TuI-er had to leave because of lag issues and another left and never returned. We were then playing with an advantage, but during match 3 Lackadaisical helped out and brainherpes rejoined, so they clawed back from around 80-50 only to lose 100-96.

Great matches everyone, now bring on the AFL ;)

* "Rico: The organisation left a little to be desired I found, with posts on the forums and edits on the challenge board right up until the match. This led to confusion over who was playing when and where." Organization was clear for everyone who joined #arma-ladle. I posted several times a detailed list of matches/time/place and edited as needed the challange board. unfortunately someone, psyko i think, at one point decided to edit the wiki without asking anybody. i had to re-edit it. next time be sure to have at least one representant player for each team in #arma-ladle channel. [[rain|rain]]

* Have to agree with rain here. I did say a number of times what was happening and it was quite clear to me what was going on(because i was on irc). - Sticky

*PsYkO I don't know if anyone noticed, but I looked on the challenge board last night and I saw that the way that it was set up SP would go straight to the finals. I then contacted 2020 and told him what I was doing, he agreed, and then I clarified it on aa.net. I'm sorry that others things got screwed up, it's kind of a double negative because if I had just went along with my business everyone would be complaining that SP was able to go straight to the finals.

*No one can complain about that, it's not your fault all the other teams stupidly sign up on the same side of the table. --[[User:MaZuffeR|MaZuffeR]] 16:59, 3 June 2007 (PDT)

* In my eyes it was completely a mess today. It started after i got up and sb told me tm would play together with sp, so we have 4 teams in total. (The day before i told everyone we only play the finals, which are at 9pm) But ok, as i knew we had additionally 2 players of tm (2020 & pez @ that time) i managed easily to inform 6-7spers we will play at 8.15. So i got offline doin some other stuff and planned to be online at 7.30. well ok i got home earlier (luckily) and the first thing i heard: we play the quaters against x! Well then the shit began, i knew we were at least 2 players short and that there is a high risk, that a few will come too late. So freaky and i started to inform our ppl as far as we could. The match against x then was most of the time 6 vs 7 (i got no clue who the 7nt player in alex eyes is, but that doesnt matter). Luckily some spers showed up on random, and a few didnt make it at 7.30, because they didnt knew it was earlier.. So what i am trying to say with this boring long story is that the challenge board rly should be locked totally, at least 4-5 hours before the ladle. Well in addition to that mess came that ladle cafe had no admin and the settings were terrible: winzone, 16 players max, no shuffling up (that was really terrible, its hard to switch pos. around with shuffling up, it just gets a mess then), autojoin of players who joined the server,... Well ok im looking forward to the AFL and the next ladle season & gz to x. - k3nNy

== Previous Winners ==

The [[Ladle-11/Results|Eleventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Fogies with Wheelchairs on Sunday 6th May

The [[Ladle-10/Results|Tenth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 1st April

The [[Ladle-9/Results|Ninth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] on Sunday 4th March

The [[Ladle-8/Results|Eighth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 4th February

The [[Ladle-7/Feedback|Seventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Speeders on Sunday 7th January

The [[Ladle-6/Feedback|Sixth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]]

The [[Ladle-5/Feedback|Fifth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Tronic Monkeys]] in a closely fought final on 5th November 2006

The [[Ladle-4/Feedback|Fourth Tronic Ladle]] was won by proN00bz on 1st October 2006.

The First [[4 Team Fortress Tourney 1|4 Team Fortress Tournament (4TFT)]] was won by [http://crazy-tronners.com Crazy Tronners (CT)] on Sunday, September 17th, 2006

The [[Ladle-3/Feedback|Third Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 3rd September 2006.

The First [[International_Tron_World_Cup|Tron World Cup]] took place in July and August 2006 and was won by the United Kingdom. Full scores of the matches are available on the [http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc/ Official TWC Site]

The [[Ladle-2/Feedback|Second Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 29th August 2006.

The [[Ladle-1/Feedback|First Tronic Ladle]] was a fortress tournament with seven teams and was won by [[Ladle Winners|Shadow League]] on 1st July 2006.

The [[THE SPOON|Tronic Spoon]] was a fortress tournament of 87 players arranged into 8 and was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] in March 2006.
|}

{{:Ladle/Feedback}}

{{:Ladle/Results}}

Ladle-12/Challenge Board

2007-05-31T11:25:39Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-12}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd June with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.
'''We are still attempting to have runners up! If your team loses, continue into the semis, and the winners of these will meet in the runners-up final.'''

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 12:30pm || 3:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 1:15pm || 4:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 2pm || 5pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards are locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 3rd June.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Durka, SmAcK,JJ the magnificent ... ) <-- More to come
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps]
----
* Team 3 is... [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] [Rico, Flex, Legit, FoFo, $ubz, ...]
* Team 4 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^TM (2020,...)
----
* Team 5 is... [http://sp-clan.com SP] (k3nNy, psyko, fr34ky, whatup, sasha, ...)
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is...
* Team 8 is...

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Ladle Café''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ ¦x¦ Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-12}}

Ladle-12/Challenge Board

2007-05-30T12:09:49Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-12}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd June with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.
'''We are still attempting to have runners up! If your team loses, continue into the semis, and the winners of these will meet in the runners-up final.'''

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 12:30pm || 3:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 1:15pm || 4:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 2pm || 5pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards are locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 3rd June.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Durka, SmAcK,JJ the magnificent ... ) <-- More to come
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps]
----
* Team 3 is... [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] [Rico, Flex, Legit, FoFo, $ubz, ...]
* Team 4 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^TM (2020,...)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [http://sp-clan.com SP] (k3nNy, psyko, freaky, ...)
* Team 8 is...

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ ¦x¦ Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-12}}

Ladle-12/Challenge Board

2007-05-29T17:37:36Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-12}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd June with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.
'''We are still attempting to have runners up! If your team loses, continue into the semis, and the winners of these will meet in the runners-up final.'''

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 12:30pm || 3:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 1:15pm || 4:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 2pm || 5pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards are locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 3rd June.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Durka, ... ) <-- More to come
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps]
----
* Team 3 is... [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] [Rico, Flex, Legit, FoFo, $ubz ...]
* Team 4 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^TM (2020,...)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [http://sp-clan.com SP] (k3nNy, ...)
* Team 8 is...

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ ¦x¦ Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-12}}

Ladle-11/Challenge Board

2007-05-05T09:04:07Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-11}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 6th May with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board. '''To attempt to achieve ping-parity, a significant change has been made to the provisional server allocations -- check it out!'''
'''Also -- we are going to attempt to have runners up! If your team loses, continue into the semis, and the winners of these will meet in the runners-up final.'''

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 12:30pm || 3:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 1:15pm || 4:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 2pm || 5pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards are locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 6th May.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (k3nNy, omega, demon, cyclo, joda, viper, ...)
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps] & [http://darksyndicates.da.funpic.de/forum/index.php ~|DS|~]
----
* Team 3 is... [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦×¦-] [Rico, Hoax, FoFo, Flex, $ubzero, Slayer] + Helpers: Legit
* Team 4 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^TM (2020,...)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] Wild West FTW! (Crack, ketamine, ~ X ~, GHß, LacrYmosa, Shrooms... ) <-- More to Come
* Team 8 is... Fogies with Wheelchairs (Mr. Blue, Mr. Brown, Mr. Orange, Mr. Crimson, Mr. Red ...)

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ ¦x¦ Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-11}}

Ladle-11/Challenge Board

2007-05-05T09:03:46Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-11}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 6th May with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board. '''To attempt to achieve ping-parity, a significant change has been made to the provisional server allocations -- check it out!'''
'''Also -- we are going to attempt to have runners up! If your team loses, continue into the semis, and the winners of these will meet in the runners-up final.'''

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 12:30pm || 3:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 1:15pm || 4:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 2pm || 5pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards are locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 6th May.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (k3nNy, omega, demon, cyclo, joda, ...)
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps] & [http://darksyndicates.da.funpic.de/forum/index.php ~|DS|~]
----
* Team 3 is... [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦×¦-] [Rico, Hoax, FoFo, Flex, $ubzero, Slayer] + Helpers: Legit
* Team 4 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^TM (2020,...)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] Wild West FTW! (Crack, ketamine, ~ X ~, GHß, LacrYmosa, Shrooms... ) <-- More to Come
* Team 8 is... Fogies with Wheelchairs (Mr. Blue, Mr. Brown, Mr. Orange, Mr. Crimson, Mr. Red ...)

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ ¦x¦ Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-11}}

Ladle-11/Challenge Board

2007-04-23T15:47:30Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-11}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 6th May with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board. '''To attempt to achieve ping-parity, a significant change has been made to the provisional server allocations -- check it out!'''
'''Also -- we are going to attempt to have runners up! If your team loses, continue into the semis, and the winners of these will meet in the runners-up final.'''

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 12:30pm || 3:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 1:15pm || 4:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 2pm || 5pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards are locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 6th May.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (k3nNy, freaky, omega, demon, ...)
* Team 2 is...
----
* Team 3 is... [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦×¦-] [Rico, Hoax, FoFo ...]
* Team 4 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^TM (2020,...)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] Wild West FTW! (Crack, ... ) <-- More to Come
* Team 8 is... Fogies with Wheelchairs (Mr. Blue...)

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ ¦x¦ Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-11}}

Ladle-11/Challenge Board

2007-04-22T23:21:59Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-11}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 6th May with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board. '''To attempt to achieve ping-parity, a significant change has been made to the provisional server allocations -- check it out!'''
'''Also -- we are going to attempt to have runners up! If your team loses, continue into the semis, and the winners of these will meet in the runners-up final.'''

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 12:30pm || 3:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 1:15pm || 4:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 2pm || 5pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards are locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 6th May.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (k3nNy, ...
* Team 2 is...
----
* Team 3 is... [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦×¦-] [Rico, Hoax, FoFo ...]
* Team 4 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^TM (2020,...)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] Wild West FTW! (Crack, ... ) <-- More to Come
* Team 8 is... Fogies with Wheelchairs (Mr. Blue...)

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ ¦x¦ Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-11}}

Ladle-10/Challenge Board

2007-03-27T13:45:16Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-10}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 1st April with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board. '''To attempt to achieve ping-parity, a significant change has been made to the provisional server allocations -- check it out!'''
'''Also -- we are going to attempt to have runners up! If your team loses, continue into the semis, and the winners of these will meet in the runners-up final.'''

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 1st April.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
----
* Team 3 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] --> (k3nNy, PsYkO, fr34ky!, Obli, Omega, Cyclo, Sasha, )
* Team 4 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^TM (2020,...)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] Wild West FTW! (Crack, ~ X ~, ketamine, ... ) <--more to come
* Team 8 is... (Lackadaisical, madmax, newbÍe, ...) (Teamname to be revealed on a later date) (Open team, 150+ ping on WW pre)

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@... offers anyone?''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-9}}

Ladle-9/Results

2007-03-05T09:07:56Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Ninth Ladle */

{{Ladle-9}}

Write a report on your games, exciting play, team-tactics... and also include any feedback on how to improve the tournament!

== Feedback for the Ninth Ladle ==

;2020
:As usual I played like a brushless broom-handle. Madmax played like a champion, often having to face 2 or three opponents at the end of the round... would like to see a recording of a couple of duels between him and psyko. First round was won by tm 100 to 98... sp won the second easily, and the last went for 100 to 04 i think... Thanks to all players who played for tronic monkeys.
:A couple of suggestions -
::1 although it was disappointing losing, i like the idea of playing again on the same night... can't the losers play, and continue with the same schedule... and there could be a parallel final -- best of the losers?
::2 could we get the results sorted out faster...? with teamscores for each round? just to update the wiki if necessary for players out of the loop...?
::3 are we ok with the long rounds? because defenders are becoming so good, it can go on for a while... perhaps we should adopt reducing zones such as with team sumo? but only for the non-final rounds...?
*How would shrinking zones help anyone but the defender? You'd need zones that conquer themselves for that to work, but that would make it impossible for one player to attack the other if it's 1v1. —[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 15:27, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*yes... perhaps the winzone is necessary for nonfinal rounds... in order for the timing to remain within the realms of feasibility --16:05, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*MaZuffeR pointed out that we could also get rid of shrink. Although a while ago I wouln't agree with that, it seems a good possibility now --[[User:Madmax|madmax]] 17:14, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*An expanding death-zone has been working great for a long time on CT's servers, The players still have to fight it out to the biter end with the best player being the winner, probably should still have a large LAST_DEATH setting though. --Manta
*Problem: A growing deathzone tends to interrupt interesting fights, at least I had that experience a couple of times. It also tends to lead to pointless camping in different edges of the map to see who can survive the longest. A winzone just doesn't get used or if it does people get angry at the one who enters it for no real reason…—[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 01:52, 5 March 2007 (CST)

;Rico
:I wish to point out that during the semi final match between TuI and SS, after about 1 or 2 rounds practically the whole of SP's team joined and constantly asked quetions, bitched, and generally distracted everyone trying to play. Now, I wasnt playing, but I was sat in spec not saying anything. Everyone got very pissed off, and despte almost everyone asking SP to leave, they just sat there in Spec filling up the server and making comments from time to time. Now something similar happened to me in either ladle 7 or 8, when I (as def) was spammed with PM's from various SP members trying to distract me. Now what I'm getting to, is there a way of silencing say, all spectators with one command or automatically kicking people with a certain something in their name (such as a clan tag). Anyway rant over, hopefully youll be able to make something of this. Grats Winners. ~ Rico
;PsYkO
:I should point out that I just came in to say that winner gets to play SP and watch who's going to win and try to gain an advantage by seeing SS's stategy. But noo, only people to be disadvantaged was TuI starting to argue with me. For all the other SPs, sorry..Should've been able to see me in the server telling them to be quiet or talk over PM system. Not very smart to kick the leader who can actually control his team instead of losing the leadership lol. XTREEEEEMEEEE (lol) grats to SS, well deserved win..we had I think 2 very good matches, very good matches against TM too but I wish finals could've lived up more to the hype so to speak..or a different result :P lol BUt yeh, best team won, I'm lookin forward to the next ladle!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:If Wild West isn't used as one of the servers in the next Ladle, then this whole concept isn't fair and then makes it meaningless for us to play. Have we '''ever''' played in an American server in any of the past '''9''' Ladles? No. This isn't fair to us and we're not enjoying this at all. Especially us on the West Coast.
;k3nNy
:the main problem of the chatting stuff was that tui immediately (as usually) started to get upset some sps joining the server, without even saying much (and kickin some of them --> psyko). although i agree that some sps were talking too much. my idea concerning that problem: maybe a spectator chat or sth like that could be introduced? ppl joining the server could ask in spec chat then what the standings are eg.
:to the ladle itself: great matches, especially against tm. with those two awesome defenders (psyko & madmax) its really hard to end a round. this results in long hard rounds & high leveled matches. still i am against a win or deathzone: as the level is high (i like that), you'll need to play at 130% & the tourney gets thrilling.
:concerning shrink: i dont think we need to get rid of it. it isnt very high (at least at cafe?) anyway?
:congrats to team ss & well played to the rest of the participants, lets make the next ladle a even better one! :) (with hopefully sp winning it :) )

== Previous Winners ==
The [[Ladle-8/Results|Eighth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 4th February

The [[Ladle-7/Feedback|Seventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Speeders on Sunday 7th January

The [[Ladle-6/Feedback|Sixth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]]

The [[Ladle-5/Feedback|Fifth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Tronic Monkeys]] in a closely fought final on 5th November 2006

The [[Ladle-4/Feedback|Fourth Tronic Ladle]] was won by proN00bz on 1st October 2006.

The First [[4 Team Fortress Tourney 1|4 Team Fortress Tournament (4TFT)]] was won by [http://crazy-tronners.com Crazy Tronners (CT)] on Sunday, September 17th, 2006

The [[Ladle-3/Feedback|Third Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 3rd September 2006.

The First [[International_Tron_World_Cup|Tron World Cup]] took place in July and August 2006 and was won by the United Kingdom. Full scores of the matches are available on the [http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc/ Official TWC Site]

The [[Ladle-2/Feedback|Second Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 29th August 2006.

The [[Ladle-1/Feedback|First Tronic Ladle]] was a fortress tournament with seven teams and was won by [[Ladle Winners|Shadow League]] on 1st July 2006.

The [[THE SPOON|Tronic Spoon]] was a fortress tournament of 87 players arranged into 8 and was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] in March 2006.
|}

== Previous Feedback ==

*[[Ladle-1/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-2/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-3/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-4/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-5/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-6/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-7/Feedback]]

== Previous Results ==
Eighth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps] || 1
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || rowspan="2" | 1
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI]
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || 2
|-
| [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 3
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
|}

Seventh Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || rowspan="2" | 3
| rowspan="4" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~]
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || 2
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
|}

Sixth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle-9/Results

2007-03-05T09:07:37Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Ninth Ladle */

{{Ladle-9}}

Write a report on your games, exciting play, team-tactics... and also include any feedback on how to improve the tournament!

== Feedback for the Ninth Ladle ==

;2020
:As usual I played like a brushless broom-handle. Madmax played like a champion, often having to face 2 or three opponents at the end of the round... would like to see a recording of a couple of duels between him and psyko. First round was won by tm 100 to 98... sp won the second easily, and the last went for 100 to 04 i think... Thanks to all players who played for tronic monkeys.
:A couple of suggestions -
::1 although it was disappointing losing, i like the idea of playing again on the same night... can't the losers play, and continue with the same schedule... and there could be a parallel final -- best of the losers?
::2 could we get the results sorted out faster...? with teamscores for each round? just to update the wiki if necessary for players out of the loop...?
::3 are we ok with the long rounds? because defenders are becoming so good, it can go on for a while... perhaps we should adopt reducing zones such as with team sumo? but only for the non-final rounds...?
*How would shrinking zones help anyone but the defender? You'd need zones that conquer themselves for that to work, but that would make it impossible for one player to attack the other if it's 1v1. —[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 15:27, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*yes... perhaps the winzone is necessary for nonfinal rounds... in order for the timing to remain within the realms of feasibility --16:05, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*MaZuffeR pointed out that we could also get rid of shrink. Although a while ago I wouln't agree with that, it seems a good possibility now --[[User:Madmax|madmax]] 17:14, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*An expanding death-zone has been working great for a long time on CT's servers, The players still have to fight it out to the biter end with the best player being the winner, probably should still have a large LAST_DEATH setting though. --Manta
*Problem: A growing deathzone tends to interrupt interesting fights, at least I had that experience a couple of times. It also tends to lead to pointless camping in different edges of the map to see who can survive the longest. A winzone just doesn't get used or if it does people get angry at the one who enters it for no real reason…—[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 01:52, 5 March 2007 (CST)

;Rico
:I wish to point out that during the semi final match between TuI and SS, after about 1 or 2 rounds practically the whole of SP's team joined and constantly asked quetions, bitched, and generally distracted everyone trying to play. Now, I wasnt playing, but I was sat in spec not saying anything. Everyone got very pissed off, and despte almost everyone asking SP to leave, they just sat there in Spec filling up the server and making comments from time to time. Now something similar happened to me in either ladle 7 or 8, when I (as def) was spammed with PM's from various SP members trying to distract me. Now what I'm getting to, is there a way of silencing say, all spectators with one command or automatically kicking people with a certain something in their name (such as a clan tag). Anyway rant over, hopefully youll be able to make something of this. Grats Winners. ~ Rico
;PsYkO
:I should point out that I just came in to say that winner gets to play SP and watch who's going to win and try to gain an advantage by seeing SS's stategy. But noo, only people to be disadvantaged was TuI starting to argue with me. For all the other SPs, sorry..Should've been able to see me in the server telling them to be quiet or talk over PM system. Not very smart to kick the leader who can actually control his team instead of losing the leadership lol. XTREEEEEMEEEE (lol) grats to SS, well deserved win..we had I think 2 very good matches, very good matches against TM too but I wish finals could've lived up more to the hype so to speak..or a different result :P lol BUt yeh, best team won, I'm lookin forward to the next ladle!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:If Wild West isn't used as one of the servers in the next Ladle, then this whole concept isn't fair and then makes it meaningless for us to play. Have we '''ever''' played in an American server in any of the past '''9''' Ladles? No. This isn't fair to us and we're not enjoying this at all. Especially us on the West Coast.
;k3nNy
:the main problem of the chatting stuff was that tui immediately (as usually) started to get upset some sps joining the server, without even saying much (and kickin some of them --> psyko). although i agree that some sps were talking too much. my idea concerning that problem: maybe a spectator chat or sth like that could be introduced? ppl joining the server could ask in spec chat then what the standings are eg.
:to the ladle itself: great matches, especially against tm. with those two awesome defenders (psyko & madmax) its really hard to end a round. this results in long hard rounds & high leveled matches. still i am against a win or deathzone: as the level is high (i like that), you'll need to play at 130% & the tourney gets thrilling.
concerning shrink: i dont think we need to get rid of it. it isnt very high (at least at cafe?) anyway?
congrats to team ss & well played to the rest of the participants, lets make the next ladle a even better one! :) (with hopefully sp winning it :) )

== Previous Winners ==
The [[Ladle-8/Results|Eighth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 4th February

The [[Ladle-7/Feedback|Seventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Speeders on Sunday 7th January

The [[Ladle-6/Feedback|Sixth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]]

The [[Ladle-5/Feedback|Fifth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Tronic Monkeys]] in a closely fought final on 5th November 2006

The [[Ladle-4/Feedback|Fourth Tronic Ladle]] was won by proN00bz on 1st October 2006.

The First [[4 Team Fortress Tourney 1|4 Team Fortress Tournament (4TFT)]] was won by [http://crazy-tronners.com Crazy Tronners (CT)] on Sunday, September 17th, 2006

The [[Ladle-3/Feedback|Third Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 3rd September 2006.

The First [[International_Tron_World_Cup|Tron World Cup]] took place in July and August 2006 and was won by the United Kingdom. Full scores of the matches are available on the [http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc/ Official TWC Site]

The [[Ladle-2/Feedback|Second Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 29th August 2006.

The [[Ladle-1/Feedback|First Tronic Ladle]] was a fortress tournament with seven teams and was won by [[Ladle Winners|Shadow League]] on 1st July 2006.

The [[THE SPOON|Tronic Spoon]] was a fortress tournament of 87 players arranged into 8 and was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] in March 2006.
|}

== Previous Feedback ==

*[[Ladle-1/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-2/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-3/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-4/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-5/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-6/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-7/Feedback]]

== Previous Results ==
Eighth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps] || 1
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || rowspan="2" | 1
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI]
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || 2
|-
| [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 3
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
|}

Seventh Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || rowspan="2" | 3
| rowspan="4" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~]
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || 2
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
|}

Sixth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle-9/Results

2007-03-05T09:07:09Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Ninth Ladle */

{{Ladle-9}}

Write a report on your games, exciting play, team-tactics... and also include any feedback on how to improve the tournament!

== Feedback for the Ninth Ladle ==

;2020
:As usual I played like a brushless broom-handle. Madmax played like a champion, often having to face 2 or three opponents at the end of the round... would like to see a recording of a couple of duels between him and psyko. First round was won by tm 100 to 98... sp won the second easily, and the last went for 100 to 04 i think... Thanks to all players who played for tronic monkeys.
:A couple of suggestions -
::1 although it was disappointing losing, i like the idea of playing again on the same night... can't the losers play, and continue with the same schedule... and there could be a parallel final -- best of the losers?
::2 could we get the results sorted out faster...? with teamscores for each round? just to update the wiki if necessary for players out of the loop...?
::3 are we ok with the long rounds? because defenders are becoming so good, it can go on for a while... perhaps we should adopt reducing zones such as with team sumo? but only for the non-final rounds...?
*How would shrinking zones help anyone but the defender? You'd need zones that conquer themselves for that to work, but that would make it impossible for one player to attack the other if it's 1v1. —[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 15:27, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*yes... perhaps the winzone is necessary for nonfinal rounds... in order for the timing to remain within the realms of feasibility --16:05, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*MaZuffeR pointed out that we could also get rid of shrink. Although a while ago I wouln't agree with that, it seems a good possibility now --[[User:Madmax|madmax]] 17:14, 4 March 2007 (CST)
*An expanding death-zone has been working great for a long time on CT's servers, The players still have to fight it out to the biter end with the best player being the winner, probably should still have a large LAST_DEATH setting though. --Manta
*Problem: A growing deathzone tends to interrupt interesting fights, at least I had that experience a couple of times. It also tends to lead to pointless camping in different edges of the map to see who can survive the longest. A winzone just doesn't get used or if it does people get angry at the one who enters it for no real reason…—[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 01:52, 5 March 2007 (CST)

;Rico
:I wish to point out that during the semi final match between TuI and SS, after about 1 or 2 rounds practically the whole of SP's team joined and constantly asked quetions, bitched, and generally distracted everyone trying to play. Now, I wasnt playing, but I was sat in spec not saying anything. Everyone got very pissed off, and despte almost everyone asking SP to leave, they just sat there in Spec filling up the server and making comments from time to time. Now something similar happened to me in either ladle 7 or 8, when I (as def) was spammed with PM's from various SP members trying to distract me. Now what I'm getting to, is there a way of silencing say, all spectators with one command or automatically kicking people with a certain something in their name (such as a clan tag). Anyway rant over, hopefully youll be able to make something of this. Grats Winners. ~ Rico
;PsYkO
:I should point out that I just came in to say that winner gets to play SP and watch who's going to win and try to gain an advantage by seeing SS's stategy. But noo, only people to be disadvantaged was TuI starting to argue with me. For all the other SPs, sorry..Should've been able to see me in the server telling them to be quiet or talk over PM system. Not very smart to kick the leader who can actually control his team instead of losing the leadership lol. XTREEEEEMEEEE (lol) grats to SS, well deserved win..we had I think 2 very good matches, very good matches against TM too but I wish finals could've lived up more to the hype so to speak..or a different result :P lol BUt yeh, best team won, I'm lookin forward to the next ladle!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:If Wild West isn't used as one of the servers in the next Ladle, then this whole concept isn't fair and then makes it meaningless for us to play. Have we '''ever''' played in an American server in any of the past '''9''' Ladles? No. This isn't fair to us and we're not enjoying this at all. Especially us on the West Coast.
;k3nNy
:the main problem of the chatting stuff was that tui immediately (as usually) started to get upset some sps joining the server, without even saying much (and kickin some of them --> psyko). although i agree that some sps were talking too much. my idea concerning that problem: maybe a spectator chat or sth like that could be introduced? ppl joining the server could ask in spec chat then what the standings are eg.
to the ladle itself: great matches, especially against tm. with those two awesome defenders (psyko & madmax) its really hard to end a round. this results in long hard rounds & high leveled matches. still i am against a win or deathzone: as the level is high (i like that), you'll need to play at 130% & the tourney gets thrilling.
concerning shrink: i dont think we need to get rid of it. it isnt very high (at least at cafe?) anyway?
congrats to team ss & well played to the rest of the participants, lets make the next ladle a even better one! :) (with hopefully sp winning it :) )

== Previous Winners ==
The [[Ladle-8/Results|Eighth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 4th February

The [[Ladle-7/Feedback|Seventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Speeders on Sunday 7th January

The [[Ladle-6/Feedback|Sixth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]]

The [[Ladle-5/Feedback|Fifth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Tronic Monkeys]] in a closely fought final on 5th November 2006

The [[Ladle-4/Feedback|Fourth Tronic Ladle]] was won by proN00bz on 1st October 2006.

The First [[4 Team Fortress Tourney 1|4 Team Fortress Tournament (4TFT)]] was won by [http://crazy-tronners.com Crazy Tronners (CT)] on Sunday, September 17th, 2006

The [[Ladle-3/Feedback|Third Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 3rd September 2006.

The First [[International_Tron_World_Cup|Tron World Cup]] took place in July and August 2006 and was won by the United Kingdom. Full scores of the matches are available on the [http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc/ Official TWC Site]

The [[Ladle-2/Feedback|Second Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 29th August 2006.

The [[Ladle-1/Feedback|First Tronic Ladle]] was a fortress tournament with seven teams and was won by [[Ladle Winners|Shadow League]] on 1st July 2006.

The [[THE SPOON|Tronic Spoon]] was a fortress tournament of 87 players arranged into 8 and was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] in March 2006.
|}

== Previous Feedback ==

*[[Ladle-1/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-2/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-3/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-4/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-5/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-6/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-7/Feedback]]

== Previous Results ==
Eighth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps] || 1
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || rowspan="2" | 1
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI]
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || 2
|-
| [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 3
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
|}

Seventh Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || rowspan="2" | 3
| rowspan="4" | [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~]
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] || 2
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || 0
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
|}

Sixth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle-9/Challenge Board

2007-02-20T23:26:35Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-8}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 4th March with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 4th February.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... The FreakZ (fr34ky, freako, Slayer, PTA, Cruz, Plage, [Sunnygirl], chat.bot, Xevi, ...)
* Team 2 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Crack, ... )
----
* Team 3 is... [http://xclan.net.tf ¦×¦] (FoFo, ...)
* Team 4 is... [[Team_somethingsomething|Team SS]] (newbÍe, Pez, MaZuffeR, pavelo, Lackadaisical, ...)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]]^tm (2020... )
* Team 8 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] (k3nNy,Ady,Obli,Sasha,Omega

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ 2020 team challenge''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-9}}

Ladle-9/Challenge Board

2007-02-19T11:58:32Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-8}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 4th March with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 4th February.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... The FreakZ (fr34ky, freako, Slayer, PTA, Pez, [Sunnygirl], chat.bot, Xevi, ...)
* Team 2 is...
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]]^tm (2020... )
* Team 8 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] (k3nNy,Ady,Obli,Sasha

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ 2020 team challenge''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0x" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-9}}

Ladle-8/Challenge Board

2007-01-29T20:43:50Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-8}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 4th February with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 4th February.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps] (AshitakA, Redice, Manta, Hay-Lin)
* Team 2 is [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] (k3nNy, PsYkO, Speed!, Sasha, freaky!, Obli, viper, whatup, demon, omega, cyclo, ...)
----
* Team 3 is... '''[http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-]''' (FoFo,Hoax,$ubzero,W4z3r,inf,anf)
* Team 4 is...
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]]^tm (visit wiki page to get on the team... only 2020 so far )
* Team 8 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Crack, Shrooms, Lacrymosa, X, ketamine, SmAcK, f, purple kush, os, ... ) <-- more to come

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ 2020 team challenge''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result and winners!
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-8}}

Ladle-8/Challenge Board

2007-01-27T01:08:47Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-8}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 4th February with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 4th February.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org °°ps] (AshitakA, Redice, Manta)
* Team 2 is [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] (k3nNy,PsYkO,Speed!,Sasha,freaky!,Obli
----
* Team 3 is... '''[http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-]''' (FoFo,Hoax,$ubzero,W4z3r,inf,anf)
* Team 4 is...
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]]^tm (visit wiki page to get on the team... only 2020 so far )
* Team 8 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Crack, Shrooms, Lacrymosa, X, ketamine, SmAcK, f, purple kush, os, ... ) <-- more to come

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ 2020 team challenge''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result and winners!
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-8}}

Ladle-8/Challenge Board

2007-01-22T14:51:58Z

213.47.177.62:

{{Ladle-8}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 4th February with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 4th February.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] (k3nNy,PsYkO,Speed!,Sasha,freaky!,Obli
----
* Team 3 is... '''[http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-]''' (FoFo,Hoax,$ubzero,W4z3r)
* Team 4 is... {!MNK¡} (Ghug, Batz (possibly), more to come)
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]]^tm (visit wiki page to get on the team...)
* Team 8 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Crack, Shrooms, Lacrymosa, X, ketamine, SmAcK, ... ) <-- more to come

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC |
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ 2020 team challenge''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result and winners!
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ wild-west fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-8}}

Ladle-8/Challenge Board

2007-01-16T23:59:07Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-8}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 4th February with finals at 9pm UTC. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am UTC on the day of the event Sunday 4th February.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] (k3nNy,
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...
----
* Team 5 is...
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]]^tm (visit wiki page to get on the team...)
* Team 8 is...

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! | Quarter Finals !! | Semi Finals !! | Final
|-
| style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM UTC || style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM UTC |
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 2 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2
|-
||| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans Fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 3 || style="border-top:0px" | team 3/4
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ X fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 4 || style="border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 1/2/3/4
|-
| style="border-right:0px" | || style="border-left:0px; border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px" | || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ Z-mans fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result and winners!
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5 || style="border-top:0px" | || style="border-top:0px" | team 5/6/7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@wild-fortress''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 6 || style="border-bottom:0px" | team 5/6
|-
| || style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-bottom:0px" | team 7 || style="border-top:0px" | team 7/8
|-
| style="border-top:0px; border-bottom:0px; border-right:0px" | '''@ fortress cafe''' || style="border-left:0px" | result
|-
| style="border-top:0px" | team 8
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-8}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-09T21:31:35Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

{{Ladle-7}}

Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again... We have to discuss stuff so that decisions made...

== Feedback for the Seventh Ladle ==
;Legit
: For starters, that was the worst ladle ive ever played. We organized a team and then when we played all positions etc... were all fucked up and hyphy i asked him to lay off def cus hes always too close and he still does it and fucked def once again. And as for redice little oops noob tking our whole team, at least 5 players in one round! And was unfair for that and also because the admin wasnt very good at locking a server cause some noob joined our team and fucked our whole team up as well. all this i will probably not play for TM anymore. And as for the finals was pretty good match to watch but tui was definantly the better team as watching how SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone. It was also funny when SP members would tell tui people to stfu and talk shit to them when they won but was also funny when pysko got all mad when someone got in his def and said it was a bullshit win for tui, next ladle should be handled better then this one.

;2020
: I forgot I was meant to be harsher with team entry. Most of us gathered and got the team organised. Then we started our game again TuI, and hyph refused to stay in midfield and got involved with def. I tried to tighten us up as a team, and for the first time issued a threat... which didn't go well with some members of the team who weren't aware of the havoc at the back. We lost the first match. And in the second, new players entered the server, a player using a familiar team name team-killed, and wrtl was constantly asked to admin the game -- and he was our defender! I didn't get into any kind of groove, played like a noob. What a mess.
:No idea what to do. I try to make it as clear as possible on the challenge board, and people seem confused about when it starts etc. I canjust about handle that, but not try to organise a team as well. I just want to play in a good game!!!!!!!!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:The organization was a bit spectacle this time because of the games being delayed by 45 minutes. Otherwise everything went smoothly.

:About the finals, I didn't really care that it was 6 on 8 and they had a 2 man advantage, but what really pissed me off, was that it was 1-1 and in the 3rd match while the score was 76-70 their lead, the winzone popped up. We even had a one man advantage I belive at that point. They took the winzone and that boosted the score to 86-70. We could have easily won that match. Then, to top it off, they holed me (I was def) and went in and got the zone (using their 2 man advantage made it quite impossible to stop them while in the zone). Them winning that match completely turns around the entire finals. Instead of being 2-1 us, its 2-1 them. Then, in the 4th match, it was definately getting close, and it was 96-88 in the final round, and for the 10th time in the finals, I got holed by ~*SP*~ and they took the match.

:My point I'm trying to make is that:
:*There should be no winzone what so ever
:*I know we've talked about this before, but as long as a team gets at least 5 or 6 players there, the other team should at least cut 1 person. I'm fine with a one-man advantage & I'm also fine with a two-man advantage, or even 3, but if they use those extra men to hole the defense 10 times throughout 4 matches, then that (in my mind) is a bit unfair.

;'''Rico'''
:I dont mind doing it in a reg game, but in a serious tourney, when I'm trying to def against 4 attackers, I dont take kindly to the rest of the opposing team spamming me with messages to put me off. I'd have ignored them, but when theres so much spam it takes up half your screen and you have to play with only 10 fps anyway, it kinda pissed me off.

:Not that I was playing well anyway as it happens, but when I'm subject to "omg, our def sucks, alex you made us lose" etc etc criticism from my OWN TEAM because I was being distracted multiple ways... I do happen to get annoyed.

:Whatever, I'll still be taking part in some events in the future. Just remind me to silence the WHOLE of the opposition.

;AshitakA
:I just want to admit that it wasn’t redice, who played at the end. He abused his name like 2020 already said. What a bummer! He hadn’t the courage to make it with his own name. Anyway, for the next ladle I want to mention the idea to let teams also play for the 3rd and 4th or 5th and 6th place. It wouldn’t take much more time, because they play at the same time as the final would be. At the moment there are enough fort server online to realise this idea. Maybe you can include it into the ladle system.

;k3nNy
:Sp had a good setup, a good team with good team organisation. i think it is sad that no one here can gratulate sp for winning the ladle but instead some of you are searching for excuses why sp shouldnt have won the ladle. first: legit. hey dude, you say sp wasnt good as tui? i think thats kinda odd when you watch the field domination sp had during the finals. sp played with 2-3 defensive players and they didnt have much to do. sp was playing with 5 offensive players. so if you count those 5 offensive players + the defensive tui players you get quite much players dont u? so isnt it then a logical outcome that there is a quite high percentage for the defence of being holed by a dying player? so legit, tell me 1 person who wouldnt use a hole in the finals of the ladle. "SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone" --> this sounds for me that u accuse sp for holling on purpuse, which wasnt at all.
:well then about the winzone... first of all: as always i think it should be disabled too.
:then to the situation: durka, it was a 2 on 2 situation, 1 sp attacking against 2 doubledefending tuis (which made it impossible for the attacker to do sth), 1 sp staying in the back in case the attacker dies. how long did that situation last? how long could it have been lasting. well i was the one in the back, probably grinding myself for the 30st time in a row, waiting for sth to happen. first i thought aw dam winzone wth are you doin here. then i thought what the heck. so i think the first time i took a winzone because i was gettin that bored back in there! i just wanted that round to be over, i didnt care if tui would have taken it.
:oh and back to legit again: sp members well telling tui members to shut up because they were whining non stop. its a ladle final, so please be a man, play it and loose it or win it. congratulations sps!
:btw. exept i think the winzone should be disabled by default, i think this ladle was fine as usual.

;Legit
:LoL kenny, fine speech but TUI is definantly were better players. Just by knowing some of the members in tui and i dont even know most of them and i knew all SP that were playing TUI has definantly better team. Who did you have? Pysko and Sasha and uhh who else...? LoL anyways, if you were so bored of the ladle match and wanted to get the winzone then why the fuck are you playing in the ladle if its boring?!?! You had a player HellBlade who didnt even get to play and wanted to and you sat there being bored playin it when someone else in your clan could had actually enjoyed it? Your excuses are lame and you know you were afraid sp was going to loose cause TUI was a better team that why you really got the winzone.

;fr34ky
:LoL Legit, nice offenses but SP just won with all allowed methods, using no cheats. Holes were allowed, so we used them...a Winzone was there too, k3nNy used it and i agree with him! At first...it's really boring back there, and you know why it was boring? - No, not because Ladle is so boring, it was because no TuI attacked us...and why didnt they attack us? Hmmm, i think you know the answer. Oh and k3nNy had no chance to see any TuI not using the winzone...so he couldnt know TuI didnt want to use it. Congratulations Speeders, nice Ladle for us and certainly many other Players (except you Legit :->)
:greets, fr34ky

;k3nNy
:you must have been in another match legit, because i didnt have one single time the feeling tui was going to win. they had a good comeback to 1-1 but that was it. sp was the best team yesterday, because they acted like a team. good teamplay etc. made us strong. we didnt care about "players" like you do. everyone had their job, and everyone did it great. the reason why hellblade couldnt play is because he is an offensive player too, and we were already playing with 5 offensive players with psyko and me in defence (and obli), though we are normally both offensive players too. still i wont force anyone in a good playing team to sit out.
:and to you legit, please stop your whining and complaining all the time. that prejudiced whining of you is goin on my nerves. if you loose you loose, then stand to it. maybe you will win next time again, who knows. but stop that prejeduce stuff like: oh sp used holes, they certainly did that on purpurse. oh k3nny said he got bored that round, in that case he certainly thought the whole ladle was boring ?!? if you dont get it dude, go and watch the replay of that round, maybe in 10 years you will understand it when ur mature enough.

;'''Rico'''
:Funny that no-one has replied to my comment about the purposeful distractions. Of course it doesn't matter, as all of you would deny it anyway.

:Anyway, grats, even though winzoning is the lamest way to win ever, just an unparallelled level of chicken-ness. And ok, holing is fine, but when its like 5 on 1 and someone holes on purpose, thats annoying. As a defender, I have to deal with it all the time.

:Thats my piece, any comments about the purposeful distractions would be much appreciated. Thanks

;PsYkO
:How about a "congratz"?

;madmax
:First of all, congratz. I pretty much know nothing more about what happened so...
:The main thing I see is that always playing a knockout competition is not a good thing. It gets too... usual. I think some kind of championship competition and making the ladles more spaced (two/threee months maybe more?) would be a nice idea.
:I think in a knockout system it sure proves who was the best team then, but hey, what if a team who lost one game would win against all other teams? What if they were having a bad day? Having a championship (point based) would be IMHO a good idea. Perhaps that whole thought of "Kings Of the Grid"... After all, theres already a domain :)
:Also, it would benefit teams that consistently make good games, not only "that day" with "that conditions" with "..."
;Speed
Legit will you ever stop complaining and whining o they holed o they did this o is that a 2 yr old i hear talking legit because it sures sounds like one...
Legit also who are you to say people suck whenever i see you in a game its lag killed me omg i just slipped or someother bs excuse i have never seen you once do a spectacular move to win a match, now you slag of redice out of oops is that because they rejected you when you tryed joining them hmmm i wonder.
Save your complaints for people who care and btw when your good then i think you may have a leg to stand on atm you got a damn toothbrush.

;Rico
:Read my post before psyko, i did say grats ;)

;Omega
ROFL TUI
The first round we won where it was a 4 on 2. 1 attacker died and made a hole and the other attackers didnt go through. But instead waited till they had dumped the sweeper into his won def, and then went through that hole, you where even then calling us holers etc. You guys where making excuses every round.......

Durka 76-70 so what, whose to say you would have won. Statistically accounting for the match ending 3-1, you would have lost. I remember the 2 ladles ago the 5th which TM won i remember final match we were down 70-92 and we still won, so saying we would have easily won etc is nonsense as anything can happen. This reminds me of WPN etc, you guys are both like immature little children who cant take losing at all.
And @alex who was spamming you, tell me and ill sort em out.
:;Durka
::Are you kidding me? The winzone is a 20 point spin. 10 points for you guys which made it 86-70. It could have been 80-76. Then again, I would have liked to see you guys beat us that round considering the fact that thru 6 matches in the Ladle, I only got pwnd twice, & the 2 people that got by me from SP had already died. I'm not being cocky, but I always like a challenge and that would have been fun.
::Forgetting all of this, I know it was our fault, but look what kenny said above. They had 5 people attacking. Well, we only had 6 players total (again, this was our fault). So, you expect us to play agressive being 2 men down each round. That's similar to having like a 4 on 2 and having the team with 2 be on the attack. It makes no sense. When we played you guys in the last ladle and beat you guys, all you said was, well we didn't have Psyko or Whatup. Yes, Psyko & Whatup helped you a lot this ladle, but if we had brought 2 more players, then it would have gotten interesting and we would have been more on the attack. We look forward to rematching you guys, but with a full team this time. O, and how about the thought of playing in a US server? I'd like to see Viper, Cyclo, Kenny, Sasha, & Omega with pings like what I usually get :)
;k3nNy
:i think that round of the winzone stuff wasnt that match deciding. it was more important who was goin to win the round after that one. you could have equalized to about 90-86 or if it would have been the otherway round we could have gone from 80-76 to about 92-86. still, i hope we wont have that situation in future again. in case the zone doesnt get turned off, teams could tell before the matches each other they wont use it, then it should be np too.
:its true our field domination was partially that high because of the higher number of players. still the rules of the ladle arent very strict, so it should be no problem for a team to get it full actually. thats why i am against cutting players in the ladle if the other team hasnt enough. make sure you have 9-10 and it should be no problem.
:about that whatup and psyko & last ladle stuff. we didnt loose the last ladle because they werent here. we lost it because the organisation was bad & the setup was totally wrong. this ladle we played the semis against x. and they were strong i can tell u. they filled their team with players like pavelo. psyko didnt even play yet & whatup took cyclos place because he didnt show up either. in case whatup also wouldnt have been there we still had a great center attacker in hellblade. so, we won it 2-0 then. then to the finals: psyko got a spot in the team & got defender. but as we had 5 attackers and your team was (forced) playing defensive, we didnt have had much to do back there. so psyko wasnt very much involved. so i can tell u: we didnt win because whatup was playing & later psyko too, but because the teamplay etc. was great. thats far more important. i dont c team somethingsomething win because of 1 or 2 players either. they won because they were a great team. and i also dont c pings deciding the matches. btw those 2 players who made the difference in your opinion were "highpingers" from us too. :)
:well i look forward to the next ladle & playing against tui again. i hope in a balanced 8 vs 8 and on either zmans or wrtl, just simply because those 2 servers are the ones who dont go nuts when there are 20+ players on it :) (16 playing + spec & exchange players).

;Legit
: Oh kenny dont give me that bs that i didnt see what was goin on, i was in spectator mode the whole time watching around. Im not even in the tui match so what are you sayin i loose sum i loose sum? Kno whats going on first before you open that little minded mouth of yours. And as for speed, you obviously dont play fortress much as looking at how you play or know how i play. And as to what durka says is 100% tru and woudl be even be a harder match vs them if it were in a US server. Congrats to TUI on doin what ya did. Theres the congrats from me.

;PsYkO
: Thx max and rico

;k3nNy
: i think you played for tm legit? and i think tm lost the semis? btw i didnt open my mouth 1 single time while i was writing this. i can imagine you writing with your mouth wide open though xD. well back to the topic: as long as there is no us server which doesnt go nuts with 20+ players, there will no finals be played there i think. i c no reason to do that. same for 2020 server, that one goes nuts too with too many players, well the finals arent played there either are they. i can remember the finals of the 5th ladle, which even were moved after start from 2020 to zmans? btw the ping doesnt make a that huge difference as you guys are acting it does.

;Legit
: I never complained about my match about loosing, ive been talking about the tui vs sp match. You know dam well you needed the winzone and them holes or you wouldnt have survived that close of a game maybe 100-50 if your lucky but in a US server would be even worse for you cause of course european servers get overruled all the time cause SOME european people like you bitch about how laggy it always is for you in our servers and dont ever think about the fact how it is for us in your servers and deal with it all the time so now you can think of how the score would have been for tui in a us server then in a european server even when they made it a close enuff game in euro server xD .

;[[User:Sasha|Sasha]]
: Wow! WTF R U talking about? Lets see who will win the next one: Ladle 8! About holing: for me its a part of the _classic_fortress_ game (see server settings and shut up or tell something to server admin). About win-zone: the same answer. My opinion: holes can be used and winzone must be used (of course its fun for those who are playing, but not for the others who are just sitting and watching fuckin stupid square defense and attackers doing nothing).
: Specially for those who sad "holing is for n000bz, winzone is guyzone" I want to say: "Then n00bz own you! HA-HA-HA!" ;)
: Ok, after all I sad, I want to say that I also think that we won doubly/foul (dunno english well, choice the right word).
: To team X: Great game, good team, I want to face you again.
: To TuI: It was fun to play with "numbers" :) I also want to meet you on grid again.
: To Legit: shut up sometimes :)
: To Durka: test
: To 2020: organize something like madmax sad, please.

;MaZuffeR
:Interesting to see that you guys really take this so seriously, it's just a game :). I just watched some parts of the final. TuI didn't adapt to SP using pretty much every possible hole. The sweepers should have played much closer to the zone, so that they could cover the hole, or atleast go through the hole right after the attacker. The times I saw an attacker going through a hole, there was no sweeper close to him. And Durka, if you don't want holes in your wall, don't kill the attackers at every chance you get, let the sweepers take care of them (yes, I'm serious).

;fr34ky
:Hmrpf, let's cound the US Players/EU Players and guess why we play on european servers. Sure you can manage an US Ladle, but without me and certainly many other EU Players. I also hate high pings (yeah it's also not easy for a low-pinger to kill an US-High-pinger) but can you manage a flying server or one in the ocean?

;Rico
:LOL at a flying server xD

;Omega
whered that msn convo go?
And lol we arent allowed to use our own players in a competition, yes whatup and psyko did alot but we beat x without psyko, and they have a lot of good players. Stop with the excuses you lost to a better team on the day end of! Maz is right as usual. Sweepers have to stick close If you saw a hole in opponents def in the ladle you wouldnt go through. If u say no i wouldnt ud be chatting shit, Durka and legit use holes in normal play let alone the ladle. I can imagine how many people are at the moment laffing at you 2 crying over a defeat cos your opponents used strats that have been delibrately left in the game to use lol, especially when you use 1 of these strats in normal gameplay. And legit what the hell is your problem are you even in TUI? You already have a terrible rep in tron after those comments you made.

;k3nNy
:well, as some partially blame their ping (see the finals) for loosing, i went through zmans stats and compared the finals with the x-sp semifinals. well here some stats first:

:match 1 Tui vs Sp:
:Tui: 6 players, average 176 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 99 ping

: match 2 Tui vs Sp:
:Tui: 7 players, average 172 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 114 ping

: match 3 Tui vs Sp:
:Tui: 7 players, average 164 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 155 ping

: match 4 Tui vs Sp:
:Tui: 6 players, average 143 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 110 ping
:Total averages: Tui: 163, Sp: 120 // diff: 43
:(the outcome in a row: sp-tui: 1-0 1-1 2-1 3-1)

: match 1 x vs sp:
:X: 8 players, average 77 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 110 ping

: match 2 x vs sp:
:X: 8 players, average 80 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 108 ping
:Total averages: X: 79, Sp: 109 // diff: 30
:(the outcome in a row: x-sp: 0-1 0-2)

:the finals compared with the semis show quite good that the ping is not "that" important.
:the top 5 rankings even show it more. only 1 time out of 6 matches an european player was on top.
:of course if your ping is higher then like 220 you will get problems. and someone with a 40 ping will have a slight advantage against someone with 200.
:(see: http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~moos/tronstats/ladle7/ by zman)
:btw my ping wasnt very good that day durka :) from ~150 in the afternoon till finally ~60 in the late evening. Actually most of the time only viper (and me in the last match) had "good" pings around 50-60.

;JJBean
:Wow i really love how the 'feedback' page turned into lets bitch about how we lost and how they cheated..... Lets also talk about how no one likes SP and doesn't like to see jerks win. Yes I am calling you jerks because all you guys do is gloat about how 'good' you are. I left after we lost that final match because i knew all we were going to here was how 'good' you guys are. Lets have a rematch before the 8th ladle ON AND AMERICAN SERVER and see who wins. <=== You will most likely say fuck that because you know you cannot beat us when we will have an average ping lower than yours. As for the holing and the winzone, Holes yea who gives a fuck, I know we are going to hole the fuck out of you next time we play you, but WINZONE come on. I could have taken it three times that round but i just zoomed around waiting for your attacker to actually do somthing, which he never did, well atleast before '''she''' took the winzone. You won't get a gratz from me all you will get is a WD for beating us and a GL for the future....

;[[User:Sasha|Sasha]]
: Note that Durka has forgotten that he himself took the winzone in the 6th ladle. JJBean, hi! :)

;k3nNy
:that is arranged. you give that american server, we give date and time...

== Previous Feedback ==

*[[Ladle-1/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-2/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-3/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-4/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-5/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-6/Feedback]]

== Previous Results ==
Sixth Ladle:
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! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-09T16:03:10Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

{{Ladle-7}}

Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again... We have to discuss stuff so that decisions made...

== Feedback for the Seventh Ladle ==
;Legit
: For starters, that was the worst ladle ive ever played. We organized a team and then when we played all positions etc... were all fucked up and hyphy i asked him to lay off def cus hes always too close and he still does it and fucked def once again. And as for redice little oops noob tking our whole team, at least 5 players in one round! And was unfair for that and also because the admin wasnt very good at locking a server cause some noob joined our team and fucked our whole team up as well. all this i will probably not play for TM anymore. And as for the finals was pretty good match to watch but tui was definantly the better team as watching how SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone. It was also funny when SP members would tell tui people to stfu and talk shit to them when they won but was also funny when pysko got all mad when someone got in his def and said it was a bullshit win for tui, next ladle should be handled better then this one.

;2020
: I forgot I was meant to be harsher with team entry. Most of us gathered and got the team organised. Then we started our game again TuI, and hyph refused to stay in midfield and got involved with def. I tried to tighten us up as a team, and for the first time issued a threat... which didn't go well with some members of the team who weren't aware of the havoc at the back. We lost the first match. And in the second, new players entered the server, a player using a familiar team name team-killed, and wrtl was constantly asked to admin the game -- and he was our defender! I didn't get into any kind of groove, played like a noob. What a mess.
:No idea what to do. I try to make it as clear as possible on the challenge board, and people seem confused about when it starts etc. I canjust about handle that, but not try to organise a team as well. I just want to play in a good game!!!!!!!!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:The organization was a bit spectacle this time because of the games being delayed by 45 minutes. Otherwise everything went smoothly.

:About the finals, I didn't really care that it was 6 on 8 and they had a 2 man advantage, but what really pissed me off, was that it was 1-1 and in the 3rd match while the score was 76-70 their lead, the winzone popped up. We even had a one man advantage I belive at that point. They took the winzone and that boosted the score to 86-70. We could have easily won that match. Then, to top it off, they holed me (I was def) and went in and got the zone (using their 2 man advantage made it quite impossible to stop them while in the zone). Them winning that match completely turns around the entire finals. Instead of being 2-1 us, its 2-1 them. Then, in the 4th match, it was definately getting close, and it was 96-88 in the final round, and for the 10th time in the finals, I got holed by ~*SP*~ and they took the match.

:My point I'm trying to make is that:
:*There should be no winzone what so ever
:*I know we've talked about this before, but as long as a team gets at least 5 or 6 players there, the other team should at least cut 1 person. I'm fine with a one-man advantage & I'm also fine with a two-man advantage, or even 3, but if they use those extra men to hole the defense 10 times throughout 4 matches, then that (in my mind) is a bit unfair.

;'''Rico'''
:I dont mind doing it in a reg game, but in a serious tourney, when I'm trying to def against 4 attackers, I dont take kindly to the rest of the opposing team spamming me with messages to put me off. I'd have ignored them, but when theres so much spam it takes up half your screen and you have to play with only 10 fps anyway, it kinda pissed me off.

:Not that I was playing well anyway as it happens, but when I'm subject to "omg, our def sucks, alex you made us lose" etc etc criticism from my OWN TEAM because I was being distracted multiple ways... I do happen to get annoyed.

:Whatever, I'll still be taking part in some events in the future. Just remind me to silence the WHOLE of the opposition.

;AshitakA
:I just want to admit that it wasn’t redice, who played at the end. He abused his name like 2020 already said. What a bummer! He hadn’t the courage to make it with his own name. Anyway, for the next ladle I want to mention the idea to let teams also play for the 3rd and 4th or 5th and 6th place. It wouldn’t take much more time, because they play at the same time as the final would be. At the moment there are enough fort server online to realise this idea. Maybe you can include it into the ladle system.

;k3nNy
:Sp had a good setup, a good team with good team organisation. i think it is sad that no one here can gratulate sp for winning the ladle but instead some of you are searching for excuses why sp shouldnt have won the ladle. first: legit. hey dude, you say sp wasnt good as tui? i think thats kinda odd when you watch the field domination sp had during the finals. sp played with 2-3 defensive players and they didnt have much to do. sp was playing with 5 offensive players. so if you count those 5 offensive players + the defensive tui players you get quite much players dont u? so isnt it then a logical outcome that there is a quite high percentage for the defence of being holed by a dying player? so legit, tell me 1 person who wouldnt use a hole in the finals of the ladle. "SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone" --> this sounds for me that u accuse sp for holling on purpuse, which wasnt at all.
:well then about the winzone... first of all: as always i think it should be disabled too.
:then to the situation: durka, it was a 2 on 2 situation, 1 sp attacking against 2 doubledefending tuis (which made it impossible for the attacker to do sth), 1 sp staying in the back in case the attacker dies. how long did that situation last? how long could it have been lasting. well i was the one in the back, probably grinding myself for the 30st time in a row, waiting for sth to happen. first i thought aw dam winzone wth are you doin here. then i thought what the heck. so i think the first time i took a winzone because i was gettin that bored back in there! i just wanted that round to be over, i didnt care if tui would have taken it.
:oh and back to legit again: sp members well telling tui members to shut up because they were whining non stop. its a ladle final, so please be a man, play it and loose it or win it. congratulations sps!
:btw. exept i think the winzone should be disabled by default, i think this ladle was fine as usual.

;Legit
:LoL kenny, fine speech but TUI is definantly were better players. Just by knowing some of the members in tui and i dont even know most of them and i knew all SP that were playing TUI has definantly better team. Who did you have? Pysko and Sasha and uhh who else...? LoL anyways, if you were so bored of the ladle match and wanted to get the winzone then why the fuck are you playing in the ladle if its boring?!?! You had a player HellBlade who didnt even get to play and wanted to and you sat there being bored playin it when someone else in your clan could had actually enjoyed it? Your excuses are lame and you know you were afraid sp was going to loose cause TUI was a better team that why you really got the winzone.

;fr34ky
:LoL Legit, nice offenses but SP just won with all allowed methods, using no cheats. Holes were allowed, so we used them...a Winzone was there too, k3nNy used it and i agree with him! At first...it's really boring back there, and you know why it was boring? - No, not because Ladle is so boring, it was because no TuI attacked us...and why didnt they attack us? Hmmm, i think you know the answer. Oh and k3nNy had no chance to see any TuI not using the winzone...so he couldnt know TuI didnt want to use it. Congratulations Speeders, nice Ladle for us and certainly many other Players (except you Legit :->)
:greets, fr34ky

;k3nNy
:you must have been in another match legit, because i didnt have one single time the feeling tui was going to win. they had a good comeback to 1-1 but that was it. sp was the best team yesterday, because they acted like a team. good teamplay etc. made us strong. we didnt care about "players" like you do. everyone had their job, and everyone did it great. the reason why hellblade couldnt play is because he is an offensive player too, and we were already playing with 5 offensive players with psyko and me in defence (and obli), though we are normally both offensive players too. still i wont force anyone in a good playing team to sit out.
:and to you legit, please stop your whining and complaining all the time. that prejudiced whining of you is goin on my nerves. if you loose you loose, then stand to it. maybe you will win next time again, who knows. but stop that prejeduce stuff like: oh sp used holes, they certainly did that on purpurse. oh k3nny said he got bored that round, in that case he certainly thought the whole ladle was boring ?!? if you dont get it dude, go and watch the replay of that round, maybe in 10 years you will understand it when ur mature enough.

;'''Rico'''
:Funny that no-one has replied to my comment about the purposeful distractions. Of course it doesn't matter, as all of you would deny it anyway.

:Anyway, grats, even though winzoning is the lamest way to win ever, just an unparallelled level of chicken-ness. And ok, holing is fine, but when its like 5 on 1 and someone holes on purpose, thats annoying. As a defender, I have to deal with it all the time.

:Thats my piece, any comments about the purposeful distractions would be much appreciated. Thanks

;PsYkO
:How about a "congratz"?

;madmax
:First of all, congratz. I pretty much know nothing more about what happened so...
:The main thing I see is that always playing a knockout competition is not a good thing. It gets too... usual. I think some kind of championship competition and making the ladles more spaced (two/threee months maybe more?) would be a nice idea.
:I think in a knockout system it sure proves who was the best team then, but hey, what if a team who lost one game would win against all other teams? What if they were having a bad day? Having a championship (point based) would be IMHO a good idea. Perhaps that whole thought of "Kings Of the Grid"... After all, theres already a domain :)
:Also, it would benefit teams that consistently make good games, not only "that day" with "that conditions" with "..."
;Speed
Legit will you ever stop complaining and whining o they holed o they did this o is that a 2 yr old i hear talking legit because it sures sounds like one...
Legit also who are you to say people suck whenever i see you in a game its lag killed me omg i just slipped or someother bs excuse i have never seen you once do a spectacular move to win a match, now you slag of redice out of oops is that because they rejected you when you tryed joining them hmmm i wonder.
Save your complaints for people who care and btw when your good then i think you may have a leg to stand on atm you got a damn toothbrush.

;Rico
:Read my post before psyko, i did say grats ;)

;Omega
ROFL TUI
The first round we won where it was a 4 on 2. 1 attacker died and made a hole and the other attackers didnt go through. But instead waited till they had dumped the sweeper into his won def, and then went through that hole, you where even then calling us holers etc. You guys where making excuses every round.......

Durka 76-70 so what, whose to say you would have won. Statistically accounting for the match ending 3-1, you would have lost. I remember the 2 ladles ago the 5th which TM won i remember final match we were down 70-92 and we still won, so saying we would have easily won etc is nonsense as anything can happen. This reminds me of WPN etc, you guys are both like immature little children who cant take losing at all.
And @alex who was spamming you, tell me and ill sort em out.
:;Durka
::Are you kidding me? The winzone is a 20 point spin. 10 points for you guys which made it 86-70. It could have been 80-76. Then again, I would have liked to see you guys beat us that round considering the fact that thru 6 matches in the Ladle, I only got pwnd twice, & the 2 people that got by me from SP had already died. I'm not being cocky, but I always like a challenge and that would have been fun.
::Forgetting all of this, I know it was our fault, but look what kenny said above. They had 5 people attacking. Well, we only had 6 players total (again, this was our fault). So, you expect us to play agressive being 2 men down each round. That's similar to having like a 4 on 2 and having the team with 2 be on the attack. It makes no sense. When we played you guys in the last ladle and beat you guys, all you said was, well we didn't have Psyko or Whatup. Yes, Psyko & Whatup helped you a lot this ladle, but if we had brought 2 more players, then it would have gotten interesting and we would have been more on the attack. We look forward to rematching you guys, but with a full team this time. O, and how about the thought of playing in a US server? I'd like to see Viper, Cyclo, Kenny, Sasha, & Omega with pings like what I usually get :)
;k3nNy
:i think that round of the winzone stuff wasnt that match deciding. it was more important who was goin to win the round after that one. you could have equalized to about 90-86 or if it would have been the otherway round we could have gone from 80-76 to about 92-86. still, i hope we wont have that situation in future again. in case the zone doesnt get turned off, teams could tell before the matches each other they wont use it, then it should be np too.
:its true our field domination was partially that high because of the higher number of players. still the rules of the ladle arent very strict, so it should be no problem for a team to get it full actually. thats why i am against cutting players in the ladle if the other team hasnt enough. make sure you have 9-10 and it should be no problem.
:about that whatup and psyko & last ladle stuff. we didnt loose the last ladle because they werent here. we lost it because the organisation was bad & the setup was totally wrong. this ladle we played the semis against x. and they were strong i can tell u. they filled their team with players like pavelo. psyko didnt even play yet & whatup took cyclos place because he didnt show up either. in case whatup also wouldnt have been there we still had a great center attacker in hellblade. so, we won it 2-0 then. then to the finals: psyko got a spot in the team & got defender. but as we had 5 attackers and your team was (forced) playing defensive, we didnt have had much to do back there. so psyko wasnt very much involved. so i can tell u: we didnt win because whatup was playing & later psyko too, but because the teamplay etc. was great. thats far more important. i dont c team somethingsomething win because of 1 or 2 players either. they won because they were a great team. and i also dont c pings deciding the matches. btw those 2 players who made the difference in your opinion were "highpingers" from us too. :)
:well i look forward to the next ladle & playing against tui again. i hope in a balanced 8 vs 8 and on either zmans or wrtl, just simply because those 2 servers are the ones who dont go nuts when there are 20+ players on it :) (16 playing + spec & exchange players).

;Legit
: Oh kenny dont give me that bs that i didnt see what was goin on, i was in spectator mode the whole time watching around. Im not even in the tui match so what are you sayin i loose sum i loose sum? Kno whats going on first before you open that little minded mouth of yours. And as for speed, you obviously dont play fortress much as looking at how you play or know how i play. And as to what durka says is 100% tru and woudl be even be a harder match vs them if it were in a US server. Congrats to TUI on doin what ya did. Theres the congrats from me.

;PsYkO
: Thx max and rico

;k3nNy
: i think you played for tm legit? and i think tm lost the semis? btw i didnt open my mouth 1 single time while i was writing this. i can imagine you writing with your mouth wide open though xD. well back to the topic: as long as there is no us server which doesnt go nuts with 20+ players, there will no finals be played there i think. i c no reason to do that. same for 2020 server, that one goes nuts too with too many players, well the finals arent played there either are they. i can remember the finals of the 5th ladle, which even were moved after start from 2020 to zmans? btw the ping doesnt make a that huge difference as you guys are acting it does.

;Legit
: I never complained about my match about loosing, ive been talking about the tui vs sp match. You know dam well you needed the winzone and them holes or you wouldnt have survived that close of a game maybe 100-50 if your lucky but in a US server would be even worse for you cause of course european servers get overruled all the time cause SOME european people like you bitch about how laggy it always is for you in our servers and dont ever think about the fact how it is for us in your servers and deal with it all the time so now you can think of how the score would have been for tui in a us server then in a european server even when they made it a close enuff game in euro server xD .

;[[User:Sasha|Sasha]]
: Wow! WTF R U talking about? Lets see who will win the next one: Ladle 8! About holing: for me its a part of the _classic_fortress_ game (see server settings and shut up or tell something to server admin). About win-zone: the same answer. My opinion: holes can be used and winzone must be used (of course its fun for those who are playing, but not for the others who are just sitting and watching fuckin stupid square defense and attackers doing nothing).
: Specially for those who sad "holing is for n000bz, winzone is guyzone" I want to say: "Then n00bz own you! HA-HA-HA!" ;)
: Ok, after all I sad, I want to say that I also think that we won doubly/foul (dunno english well, choice the right word).
: To team X: Great game, good team, I want to face you again.
: To TuI: It was fun to play with "numbers" :) I also want to meet you on grid again.
: To Legit: shut up sometimes :)
: To Durka: test
: To 2020: organize something like madmax sad, please.

;MaZuffeR
:Interesting to see that you guys really take this so seriously, it's just a game :). I just watched some parts of the final. TuI didn't adapt to SP using pretty much every possible hole. The sweepers should have played much closer to the zone, so that they could cover the hole, or atleast go through the hole right after the attacker. The times I saw an attacker going through a hole, there was no sweeper close to him. And Durka, if you don't want holes in your wall, don't kill the attackers at every chance you get, let the sweepers take care of them (yes, I'm serious).

;fr34ky
:Hmrpf, let's cound the US Players/EU Players and guess why we play on european servers. Sure you can manage an US Ladle, but without me and certainly many other EU Players. I also hate high pings (yeah it's also not easy for a low-pinger to kill an US-High-pinger) but can you manage a flying server or one in the ocean?

;Rico
:LOL at a flying server xD

;Omega
whered that msn convo go?
And lol we arent allowed to use our own players in a competition, yes whatup and psyko did alot but we beat x without psyko, and they have a lot of good players. Stop with the excuses you lost to a better team on the day end of! Maz is right as usual. Sweepers have to stick close If you saw a hole in opponents def in the ladle you wouldnt go through. If u say no i wouldnt ud be chatting shit, Durka and legit use holes in normal play let alone the ladle. I can imagine how many people are at the moment laffing at you 2 crying over a defeat cos your opponents used strats that have been delibrately left in the game to use lol, especially when you use 1 of these strats in normal gameplay. And legit what the hell is your problem are you even in TUI? You already have a terrible rep in tron after those comments you made.

;k3nNy
:well, as some partially blame their ping (see the finals) for loosing, i went through zmans stats and compared the finals with the x-sp semifinals. well here some stats first:

:match 1 Tui vs Sp:
:Tui: 6 players, average 176 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 99 ping

: match 2 Tui vs Sp:
:Tui: 7 players, average 172 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 114 ping

: match 3 Tui vs Sp:
:Tui: 7 players, average 164 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 155 ping

: match 4 Tui vs Sp:
:Tui: 6 players, average 143 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 110 ping
:Total averages: Tui: 163, Sp: 120 // diff: 43
:(the outcome in a row: sp-tui: 1-0 1-1 2-1 3-1)

: match 1 x vs sp:
:X: 8 players, average 77 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 110 ping

: match 2 x vs sp:
:X: 8 players, average 80 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 108 ping
:Total averages: X: 79, Sp: 109 // diff: 30
:(the outcome in a row: x-sp: 0-1 0-2)

:the finals compared with the semis show quite good that the ping is not "that" important.
:the top 5 rankings even show it more. only 1 time out of 6 matches an european player was on top.
:of course if your ping is higher then like 220 you will get problems. and someone with a 40 ping will have a slight advantage against someone with 200.
:(see: http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~moos/tronstats/ladle7/ by zman)
:btw my ping wasnt very good that day durka :) from ~150 in the afternoon till finally ~60 in the late evening. Actually most of the time only viper (and me in the last match) had "good" pings around 50-60.

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== Previous Results ==
Sixth Ladle:
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! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-09T15:59:20Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

{{Ladle-7}}

Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again... We have to discuss stuff so that decisions made...

== Feedback for the Seventh Ladle ==
;Legit
: For starters, that was the worst ladle ive ever played. We organized a team and then when we played all positions etc... were all fucked up and hyphy i asked him to lay off def cus hes always too close and he still does it and fucked def once again. And as for redice little oops noob tking our whole team, at least 5 players in one round! And was unfair for that and also because the admin wasnt very good at locking a server cause some noob joined our team and fucked our whole team up as well. all this i will probably not play for TM anymore. And as for the finals was pretty good match to watch but tui was definantly the better team as watching how SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone. It was also funny when SP members would tell tui people to stfu and talk shit to them when they won but was also funny when pysko got all mad when someone got in his def and said it was a bullshit win for tui, next ladle should be handled better then this one.

;2020
: I forgot I was meant to be harsher with team entry. Most of us gathered and got the team organised. Then we started our game again TuI, and hyph refused to stay in midfield and got involved with def. I tried to tighten us up as a team, and for the first time issued a threat... which didn't go well with some members of the team who weren't aware of the havoc at the back. We lost the first match. And in the second, new players entered the server, a player using a familiar team name team-killed, and wrtl was constantly asked to admin the game -- and he was our defender! I didn't get into any kind of groove, played like a noob. What a mess.
:No idea what to do. I try to make it as clear as possible on the challenge board, and people seem confused about when it starts etc. I canjust about handle that, but not try to organise a team as well. I just want to play in a good game!!!!!!!!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:The organization was a bit spectacle this time because of the games being delayed by 45 minutes. Otherwise everything went smoothly.

:About the finals, I didn't really care that it was 6 on 8 and they had a 2 man advantage, but what really pissed me off, was that it was 1-1 and in the 3rd match while the score was 76-70 their lead, the winzone popped up. We even had a one man advantage I belive at that point. They took the winzone and that boosted the score to 86-70. We could have easily won that match. Then, to top it off, they holed me (I was def) and went in and got the zone (using their 2 man advantage made it quite impossible to stop them while in the zone). Them winning that match completely turns around the entire finals. Instead of being 2-1 us, its 2-1 them. Then, in the 4th match, it was definately getting close, and it was 96-88 in the final round, and for the 10th time in the finals, I got holed by ~*SP*~ and they took the match.

:My point I'm trying to make is that:
:*There should be no winzone what so ever
:*I know we've talked about this before, but as long as a team gets at least 5 or 6 players there, the other team should at least cut 1 person. I'm fine with a one-man advantage & I'm also fine with a two-man advantage, or even 3, but if they use those extra men to hole the defense 10 times throughout 4 matches, then that (in my mind) is a bit unfair.

;'''Rico'''
:I dont mind doing it in a reg game, but in a serious tourney, when I'm trying to def against 4 attackers, I dont take kindly to the rest of the opposing team spamming me with messages to put me off. I'd have ignored them, but when theres so much spam it takes up half your screen and you have to play with only 10 fps anyway, it kinda pissed me off.

:Not that I was playing well anyway as it happens, but when I'm subject to "omg, our def sucks, alex you made us lose" etc etc criticism from my OWN TEAM because I was being distracted multiple ways... I do happen to get annoyed.

:Whatever, I'll still be taking part in some events in the future. Just remind me to silence the WHOLE of the opposition.

;AshitakA
:I just want to admit that it wasn’t redice, who played at the end. He abused his name like 2020 already said. What a bummer! He hadn’t the courage to make it with his own name. Anyway, for the next ladle I want to mention the idea to let teams also play for the 3rd and 4th or 5th and 6th place. It wouldn’t take much more time, because they play at the same time as the final would be. At the moment there are enough fort server online to realise this idea. Maybe you can include it into the ladle system.

;k3nNy
:Sp had a good setup, a good team with good team organisation. i think it is sad that no one here can gratulate sp for winning the ladle but instead some of you are searching for excuses why sp shouldnt have won the ladle. first: legit. hey dude, you say sp wasnt good as tui? i think thats kinda odd when you watch the field domination sp had during the finals. sp played with 2-3 defensive players and they didnt have much to do. sp was playing with 5 offensive players. so if you count those 5 offensive players + the defensive tui players you get quite much players dont u? so isnt it then a logical outcome that there is a quite high percentage for the defence of being holed by a dying player? so legit, tell me 1 person who wouldnt use a hole in the finals of the ladle. "SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone" --> this sounds for me that u accuse sp for holling on purpuse, which wasnt at all.
:well then about the winzone... first of all: as always i think it should be disabled too.
:then to the situation: durka, it was a 2 on 2 situation, 1 sp attacking against 2 doubledefending tuis (which made it impossible for the attacker to do sth), 1 sp staying in the back in case the attacker dies. how long did that situation last? how long could it have been lasting. well i was the one in the back, probably grinding myself for the 30st time in a row, waiting for sth to happen. first i thought aw dam winzone wth are you doin here. then i thought what the heck. so i think the first time i took a winzone because i was gettin that bored back in there! i just wanted that round to be over, i didnt care if tui would have taken it.
:oh and back to legit again: sp members well telling tui members to shut up because they were whining non stop. its a ladle final, so please be a man, play it and loose it or win it. congratulations sps!
:btw. exept i think the winzone should be disabled by default, i think this ladle was fine as usual.

;Legit
:LoL kenny, fine speech but TUI is definantly were better players. Just by knowing some of the members in tui and i dont even know most of them and i knew all SP that were playing TUI has definantly better team. Who did you have? Pysko and Sasha and uhh who else...? LoL anyways, if you were so bored of the ladle match and wanted to get the winzone then why the fuck are you playing in the ladle if its boring?!?! You had a player HellBlade who didnt even get to play and wanted to and you sat there being bored playin it when someone else in your clan could had actually enjoyed it? Your excuses are lame and you know you were afraid sp was going to loose cause TUI was a better team that why you really got the winzone.

;fr34ky
:LoL Legit, nice offenses but SP just won with all allowed methods, using no cheats. Holes were allowed, so we used them...a Winzone was there too, k3nNy used it and i agree with him! At first...it's really boring back there, and you know why it was boring? - No, not because Ladle is so boring, it was because no TuI attacked us...and why didnt they attack us? Hmmm, i think you know the answer. Oh and k3nNy had no chance to see any TuI not using the winzone...so he couldnt know TuI didnt want to use it. Congratulations Speeders, nice Ladle for us and certainly many other Players (except you Legit :->)
:greets, fr34ky

;k3nNy
:you must have been in another match legit, because i didnt have one single time the feeling tui was going to win. they had a good comeback to 1-1 but that was it. sp was the best team yesterday, because they acted like a team. good teamplay etc. made us strong. we didnt care about "players" like you do. everyone had their job, and everyone did it great. the reason why hellblade couldnt play is because he is an offensive player too, and we were already playing with 5 offensive players with psyko and me in defence (and obli), though we are normally both offensive players too. still i wont force anyone in a good playing team to sit out.
:and to you legit, please stop your whining and complaining all the time. that prejudiced whining of you is goin on my nerves. if you loose you loose, then stand to it. maybe you will win next time again, who knows. but stop that prejeduce stuff like: oh sp used holes, they certainly did that on purpurse. oh k3nny said he got bored that round, in that case he certainly thought the whole ladle was boring ?!? if you dont get it dude, go and watch the replay of that round, maybe in 10 years you will understand it when ur mature enough.

;'''Rico'''
:Funny that no-one has replied to my comment about the purposeful distractions. Of course it doesn't matter, as all of you would deny it anyway.

:Anyway, grats, even though winzoning is the lamest way to win ever, just an unparallelled level of chicken-ness. And ok, holing is fine, but when its like 5 on 1 and someone holes on purpose, thats annoying. As a defender, I have to deal with it all the time.

:Thats my piece, any comments about the purposeful distractions would be much appreciated. Thanks

;PsYkO
:How about a "congratz"?

;madmax
:First of all, congratz. I pretty much know nothing more about what happened so...
:The main thing I see is that always playing a knockout competition is not a good thing. It gets too... usual. I think some kind of championship competition and making the ladles more spaced (two/threee months maybe more?) would be a nice idea.
:I think in a knockout system it sure proves who was the best team then, but hey, what if a team who lost one game would win against all other teams? What if they were having a bad day? Having a championship (point based) would be IMHO a good idea. Perhaps that whole thought of "Kings Of the Grid"... After all, theres already a domain :)
:Also, it would benefit teams that consistently make good games, not only "that day" with "that conditions" with "..."
;Speed
Legit will you ever stop complaining and whining o they holed o they did this o is that a 2 yr old i hear talking legit because it sures sounds like one...
Legit also who are you to say people suck whenever i see you in a game its lag killed me omg i just slipped or someother bs excuse i have never seen you once do a spectacular move to win a match, now you slag of redice out of oops is that because they rejected you when you tryed joining them hmmm i wonder.
Save your complaints for people who care and btw when your good then i think you may have a leg to stand on atm you got a damn toothbrush.

;Rico
:Read my post before psyko, i did say grats ;)

;Omega
ROFL TUI
The first round we won where it was a 4 on 2. 1 attacker died and made a hole and the other attackers didnt go through. But instead waited till they had dumped the sweeper into his won def, and then went through that hole, you where even then calling us holers etc. You guys where making excuses every round.......

Durka 76-70 so what, whose to say you would have won. Statistically accounting for the match ending 3-1, you would have lost. I remember the 2 ladles ago the 5th which TM won i remember final match we were down 70-92 and we still won, so saying we would have easily won etc is nonsense as anything can happen. This reminds me of WPN etc, you guys are both like immature little children who cant take losing at all.
And @alex who was spamming you, tell me and ill sort em out.
:;Durka
::Are you kidding me? The winzone is a 20 point spin. 10 points for you guys which made it 86-70. It could have been 80-76. Then again, I would have liked to see you guys beat us that round considering the fact that thru 6 matches in the Ladle, I only got pwnd twice, & the 2 people that got by me from SP had already died. I'm not being cocky, but I always like a challenge and that would have been fun.
::Forgetting all of this, I know it was our fault, but look what kenny said above. They had 5 people attacking. Well, we only had 6 players total (again, this was our fault). So, you expect us to play agressive being 2 men down each round. That's similar to having like a 4 on 2 and having the team with 2 be on the attack. It makes no sense. When we played you guys in the last ladle and beat you guys, all you said was, well we didn't have Psyko or Whatup. Yes, Psyko & Whatup helped you a lot this ladle, but if we had brought 2 more players, then it would have gotten interesting and we would have been more on the attack. We look forward to rematching you guys, but with a full team this time. O, and how about the thought of playing in a US server? I'd like to see Viper, Cyclo, Kenny, Sasha, & Omega with pings like what I usually get :)
;k3nNy
:i think that round of the winzone stuff wasnt that match deciding. it was more important who was goin to win the round after that one. you could have equalized to about 90-86 or if it would have been the otherway round we could have gone from 80-76 to about 92-86. still, i hope we wont have that situation in future again. in case the zone doesnt get turned off, teams could tell before the matches each other they wont use it, then it should be np too.
:its true our field domination was partially that high because of the higher number of players. still the rules of the ladle arent very strict, so it should be no problem for a team to get it full actually. thats why i am against cutting players in the ladle if the other team hasnt enough. make sure you have 9-10 and it should be no problem.
:about that whatup and psyko & last ladle stuff. we didnt loose the last ladle because they werent here. we lost it because the organisation was bad & the setup was totally wrong. this ladle we played the semis against x. and they were strong i can tell u. they filled their team with players like pavelo. psyko didnt even play yet & whatup took cyclos place because he didnt show up either. in case whatup also wouldnt have been there we still had a great center attacker in hellblade. so, we won it 2-0 then. then to the finals: psyko got a spot in the team & got defender. but as we had 5 attackers and your team was (forced) playing defensive, we didnt have had much to do back there. so psyko wasnt very much involved. so i can tell u: we didnt win because whatup was playing & later psyko too, but because the teamplay etc. was great. thats far more important. i dont c team somethingsomething win because of 1 or 2 players either. they won because they were a great team. and i also dont c pings deciding the matches. btw those 2 players who made the difference in your opinion were "highpingers" from us too. :)
:well i look forward to the next ladle & playing against tui again. i hope in a balanced 8 vs 8 and on either zmans or wrtl, just simply because those 2 servers are the ones who dont go nuts when there are 20+ players on it :) (16 playing + spec & exchange players).

;Legit
: Oh kenny dont give me that bs that i didnt see what was goin on, i was in spectator mode the whole time watching around. Im not even in the tui match so what are you sayin i loose sum i loose sum? Kno whats going on first before you open that little minded mouth of yours. And as for speed, you obviously dont play fortress much as looking at how you play or know how i play. And as to what durka says is 100% tru and woudl be even be a harder match vs them if it were in a US server. Congrats to TUI on doin what ya did. Theres the congrats from me.

;PsYkO
: Thx max and rico

;k3nNy
: i think you played for tm legit? and i think tm lost the semis? btw i didnt open my mouth 1 single time while i was writing this. i can imagine you writing with your mouth wide open though xD. well back to the topic: as long as there is no us server which doesnt go nuts with 20+ players, there will no finals be played there i think. i c no reason to do that. same for 2020 server, that one goes nuts too with too many players, well the finals arent played there either are they. i can remember the finals of the 5th ladle, which even were moved after start from 2020 to zmans? btw the ping doesnt make a that huge difference as you guys are acting it does.

;Legit
: I never complained about my match about loosing, ive been talking about the tui vs sp match. You know dam well you needed the winzone and them holes or you wouldnt have survived that close of a game maybe 100-50 if your lucky but in a US server would be even worse for you cause of course european servers get overruled all the time cause SOME european people like you bitch about how laggy it always is for you in our servers and dont ever think about the fact how it is for us in your servers and deal with it all the time so now you can think of how the score would have been for tui in a us server then in a european server even when they made it a close enuff game in euro server xD .

;[[User:Sasha|Sasha]]
: Wow! WTF R U talking about? Lets see who will win the next one: Ladle 8! About holing: for me its a part of the _classic_fortress_ game (see server settings and shut up or tell something to server admin). About win-zone: the same answer. My opinion: holes can be used and winzone must be used (of course its fun for those who are playing, but not for the others who are just sitting and watching fuckin stupid square defense and attackers doing nothing).
: Specially for those who sad "holing is for n000bz, winzone is guyzone" I want to say: "Then n00bz own you! HA-HA-HA!" ;)
: Ok, after all I sad, I want to say that I also think that we won doubly/foul (dunno english well, choice the right word).
: To team X: Great game, good team, I want to face you again.
: To TuI: It was fun to play with "numbers" :) I also want to meet you on grid again.
: To Legit: shut up sometimes :)
: To Durka: test
: To 2020: organize something like madmax sad, please.

;MaZuffeR
:Interesting to see that you guys really take this so seriously, it's just a game :). I just watched some parts of the final. TuI didn't adapt to SP using pretty much every possible hole. The sweepers should have played much closer to the zone, so that they could cover the hole, or atleast go through the hole right after the attacker. The times I saw an attacker going through a hole, there was no sweeper close to him. And Durka, if you don't want holes in your wall, don't kill the attackers at every chance you get, let the sweepers take care of them (yes, I'm serious).

;fr34ky
:Hmrpf, let's cound the US Players/EU Players and guess why we play on european servers. Sure you can manage an US Ladle, but without me and certainly many other EU Players. I also hate high pings (yeah it's also not easy for a low-pinger to kill an US-High-pinger) but can you manage a flying server or one in the ocean?

;Rico
:LOL at a flying server xD

;Omega
:who edited my msn speech :O
:And lol we arent allowed to use our own players in a competition, yes whatup and psyko did alot but we beat x without psyko, and they have a lot of good players. Stop with the excuses you lost to a better team on the day end of!

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== Previous Results ==
Sixth Ladle:
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! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-09T15:58:12Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

{{Ladle-7}}

Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again... We have to discuss stuff so that decisions made...

== Feedback for the Seventh Ladle ==
;Legit
: For starters, that was the worst ladle ive ever played. We organized a team and then when we played all positions etc... were all fucked up and hyphy i asked him to lay off def cus hes always too close and he still does it and fucked def once again. And as for redice little oops noob tking our whole team, at least 5 players in one round! And was unfair for that and also because the admin wasnt very good at locking a server cause some noob joined our team and fucked our whole team up as well. all this i will probably not play for TM anymore. And as for the finals was pretty good match to watch but tui was definantly the better team as watching how SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone. It was also funny when SP members would tell tui people to stfu and talk shit to them when they won but was also funny when pysko got all mad when someone got in his def and said it was a bullshit win for tui, next ladle should be handled better then this one.

;2020
: I forgot I was meant to be harsher with team entry. Most of us gathered and got the team organised. Then we started our game again TuI, and hyph refused to stay in midfield and got involved with def. I tried to tighten us up as a team, and for the first time issued a threat... which didn't go well with some members of the team who weren't aware of the havoc at the back. We lost the first match. And in the second, new players entered the server, a player using a familiar team name team-killed, and wrtl was constantly asked to admin the game -- and he was our defender! I didn't get into any kind of groove, played like a noob. What a mess.
:No idea what to do. I try to make it as clear as possible on the challenge board, and people seem confused about when it starts etc. I canjust about handle that, but not try to organise a team as well. I just want to play in a good game!!!!!!!!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:The organization was a bit spectacle this time because of the games being delayed by 45 minutes. Otherwise everything went smoothly.

:About the finals, I didn't really care that it was 6 on 8 and they had a 2 man advantage, but what really pissed me off, was that it was 1-1 and in the 3rd match while the score was 76-70 their lead, the winzone popped up. We even had a one man advantage I belive at that point. They took the winzone and that boosted the score to 86-70. We could have easily won that match. Then, to top it off, they holed me (I was def) and went in and got the zone (using their 2 man advantage made it quite impossible to stop them while in the zone). Them winning that match completely turns around the entire finals. Instead of being 2-1 us, its 2-1 them. Then, in the 4th match, it was definately getting close, and it was 96-88 in the final round, and for the 10th time in the finals, I got holed by ~*SP*~ and they took the match.

:My point I'm trying to make is that:
:*There should be no winzone what so ever
:*I know we've talked about this before, but as long as a team gets at least 5 or 6 players there, the other team should at least cut 1 person. I'm fine with a one-man advantage & I'm also fine with a two-man advantage, or even 3, but if they use those extra men to hole the defense 10 times throughout 4 matches, then that (in my mind) is a bit unfair.

;'''Rico'''
:I dont mind doing it in a reg game, but in a serious tourney, when I'm trying to def against 4 attackers, I dont take kindly to the rest of the opposing team spamming me with messages to put me off. I'd have ignored them, but when theres so much spam it takes up half your screen and you have to play with only 10 fps anyway, it kinda pissed me off.

:Not that I was playing well anyway as it happens, but when I'm subject to "omg, our def sucks, alex you made us lose" etc etc criticism from my OWN TEAM because I was being distracted multiple ways... I do happen to get annoyed.

:Whatever, I'll still be taking part in some events in the future. Just remind me to silence the WHOLE of the opposition.

;AshitakA
:I just want to admit that it wasn’t redice, who played at the end. He abused his name like 2020 already said. What a bummer! He hadn’t the courage to make it with his own name. Anyway, for the next ladle I want to mention the idea to let teams also play for the 3rd and 4th or 5th and 6th place. It wouldn’t take much more time, because they play at the same time as the final would be. At the moment there are enough fort server online to realise this idea. Maybe you can include it into the ladle system.

;k3nNy
:Sp had a good setup, a good team with good team organisation. i think it is sad that no one here can gratulate sp for winning the ladle but instead some of you are searching for excuses why sp shouldnt have won the ladle. first: legit. hey dude, you say sp wasnt good as tui? i think thats kinda odd when you watch the field domination sp had during the finals. sp played with 2-3 defensive players and they didnt have much to do. sp was playing with 5 offensive players. so if you count those 5 offensive players + the defensive tui players you get quite much players dont u? so isnt it then a logical outcome that there is a quite high percentage for the defence of being holed by a dying player? so legit, tell me 1 person who wouldnt use a hole in the finals of the ladle. "SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone" --> this sounds for me that u accuse sp for holling on purpuse, which wasnt at all.
:well then about the winzone... first of all: as always i think it should be disabled too.
:then to the situation: durka, it was a 2 on 2 situation, 1 sp attacking against 2 doubledefending tuis (which made it impossible for the attacker to do sth), 1 sp staying in the back in case the attacker dies. how long did that situation last? how long could it have been lasting. well i was the one in the back, probably grinding myself for the 30st time in a row, waiting for sth to happen. first i thought aw dam winzone wth are you doin here. then i thought what the heck. so i think the first time i took a winzone because i was gettin that bored back in there! i just wanted that round to be over, i didnt care if tui would have taken it.
:oh and back to legit again: sp members well telling tui members to shut up because they were whining non stop. its a ladle final, so please be a man, play it and loose it or win it. congratulations sps!
:btw. exept i think the winzone should be disabled by default, i think this ladle was fine as usual.

;Legit
:LoL kenny, fine speech but TUI is definantly were better players. Just by knowing some of the members in tui and i dont even know most of them and i knew all SP that were playing TUI has definantly better team. Who did you have? Pysko and Sasha and uhh who else...? LoL anyways, if you were so bored of the ladle match and wanted to get the winzone then why the fuck are you playing in the ladle if its boring?!?! You had a player HellBlade who didnt even get to play and wanted to and you sat there being bored playin it when someone else in your clan could had actually enjoyed it? Your excuses are lame and you know you were afraid sp was going to loose cause TUI was a better team that why you really got the winzone.

;fr34ky
:LoL Legit, nice offenses but SP just won with all allowed methods, using no cheats. Holes were allowed, so we used them...a Winzone was there too, k3nNy used it and i agree with him! At first...it's really boring back there, and you know why it was boring? - No, not because Ladle is so boring, it was because no TuI attacked us...and why didnt they attack us? Hmmm, i think you know the answer. Oh and k3nNy had no chance to see any TuI not using the winzone...so he couldnt know TuI didnt want to use it. Congratulations Speeders, nice Ladle for us and certainly many other Players (except you Legit :->)
:greets, fr34ky

;k3nNy
:you must have been in another match legit, because i didnt have one single time the feeling tui was going to win. they had a good comeback to 1-1 but that was it. sp was the best team yesterday, because they acted like a team. good teamplay etc. made us strong. we didnt care about "players" like you do. everyone had their job, and everyone did it great. the reason why hellblade couldnt play is because he is an offensive player too, and we were already playing with 5 offensive players with psyko and me in defence (and obli), though we are normally both offensive players too. still i wont force anyone in a good playing team to sit out.
:and to you legit, please stop your whining and complaining all the time. that prejudiced whining of you is goin on my nerves. if you loose you loose, then stand to it. maybe you will win next time again, who knows. but stop that prejeduce stuff like: oh sp used holes, they certainly did that on purpurse. oh k3nny said he got bored that round, in that case he certainly thought the whole ladle was boring ?!? if you dont get it dude, go and watch the replay of that round, maybe in 10 years you will understand it when ur mature enough.

;'''Rico'''
:Funny that no-one has replied to my comment about the purposeful distractions. Of course it doesn't matter, as all of you would deny it anyway.

:Anyway, grats, even though winzoning is the lamest way to win ever, just an unparallelled level of chicken-ness. And ok, holing is fine, but when its like 5 on 1 and someone holes on purpose, thats annoying. As a defender, I have to deal with it all the time.

:Thats my piece, any comments about the purposeful distractions would be much appreciated. Thanks

;PsYkO
:How about a "congratz"?

;madmax
:First of all, congratz. I pretty much know nothing more about what happened so...
:The main thing I see is that always playing a knockout competition is not a good thing. It gets too... usual. I think some kind of championship competition and making the ladles more spaced (two/threee months maybe more?) would be a nice idea.
:I think in a knockout system it sure proves who was the best team then, but hey, what if a team who lost one game would win against all other teams? What if they were having a bad day? Having a championship (point based) would be IMHO a good idea. Perhaps that whole thought of "Kings Of the Grid"... After all, theres already a domain :)
:Also, it would benefit teams that consistently make good games, not only "that day" with "that conditions" with "..."
;Speed
Legit will you ever stop complaining and whining o they holed o they did this o is that a 2 yr old i hear talking legit because it sures sounds like one...
Legit also who are you to say people suck whenever i see you in a game its lag killed me omg i just slipped or someother bs excuse i have never seen you once do a spectacular move to win a match, now you slag of redice out of oops is that because they rejected you when you tryed joining them hmmm i wonder.
Save your complaints for people who care and btw when your good then i think you may have a leg to stand on atm you got a damn toothbrush.

;Rico
:Read my post before psyko, i did say grats ;)

;Omega
ROFL TUI
The first round we won where it was a 4 on 2. 1 attacker died and made a hole and the other attackers didnt go through. But instead waited till they had dumped the sweeper into his won def, and then went through that hole, you where even then calling us holers etc. You guys where making excuses every round.......

Durka 76-70 so what, whose to say you would have won. Statistically accounting for the match ending 3-1, you would have lost. I remember the 2 ladles ago the 5th which TM won i remember final match we were down 70-92 and we still won, so saying we would have easily won etc is nonsense as anything can happen. This reminds me of WPN etc, you guys are both like immature little children who cant take losing at all.
And @alex who was spamming you, tell me and ill sort em out.
:;Durka
::Are you kidding me? The winzone is a 20 point spin. 10 points for you guys which made it 86-70. It could have been 80-76. Then again, I would have liked to see you guys beat us that round considering the fact that thru 6 matches in the Ladle, I only got pwnd twice, & the 2 people that got by me from SP had already died. I'm not being cocky, but I always like a challenge and that would have been fun.
::Forgetting all of this, I know it was our fault, but look what kenny said above. They had 5 people attacking. Well, we only had 6 players total (again, this was our fault). So, you expect us to play agressive being 2 men down each round. That's similar to having like a 4 on 2 and having the team with 2 be on the attack. It makes no sense. When we played you guys in the last ladle and beat you guys, all you said was, well we didn't have Psyko or Whatup. Yes, Psyko & Whatup helped you a lot this ladle, but if we had brought 2 more players, then it would have gotten interesting and we would have been more on the attack. We look forward to rematching you guys, but with a full team this time. O, and how about the thought of playing in a US server? I'd like to see Viper, Cyclo, Kenny, Sasha, & Omega with pings like what I usually get :)
;k3nNy
:i think that round of the winzone stuff wasnt that match deciding. it was more important who was goin to win the round after that one. you could have equalized to about 90-86 or if it would have been the otherway round we could have gone from 80-76 to about 92-86. still, i hope we wont have that situation in future again. in case the zone doesnt get turned off, teams could tell before the matches each other they wont use it, then it should be np too.
:its true our field domination was partially that high because of the higher number of players. still the rules of the ladle arent very strict, so it should be no problem for a team to get it full actually. thats why i am against cutting players in the ladle if the other team hasnt enough. make sure you have 9-10 and it should be no problem.
:about that whatup and psyko & last ladle stuff. we didnt loose the last ladle because they werent here. we lost it because the organisation was bad & the setup was totally wrong. this ladle we played the semis against x. and they were strong i can tell u. they filled their team with players like pavelo. psyko didnt even play yet & whatup took cyclos place because he didnt show up either. in case whatup also wouldnt have been there we still had a great center attacker in hellblade. so, we won it 2-0 then. then to the finals: psyko got a spot in the team & got defender. but as we had 5 attackers and your team was (forced) playing defensive, we didnt have had much to do back there. so psyko wasnt very much involved. so i can tell u: we didnt win because whatup was playing & later psyko too, but because the teamplay etc. was great. thats far more important. i dont c team somethingsomething win because of 1 or 2 players either. they won because they were a great team. and i also dont c pings deciding the matches. btw those 2 players who made the difference in your opinion were "highpingers" from us too. :)
:well i look forward to the next ladle & playing against tui again. i hope in a balanced 8 vs 8 and on either zmans or wrtl, just simply because those 2 servers are the ones who dont go nuts when there are 20+ players on it :) (16 playing + spec & exchange players).

;Legit
: Oh kenny dont give me that bs that i didnt see what was goin on, i was in spectator mode the whole time watching around. Im not even in the tui match so what are you sayin i loose sum i loose sum? Kno whats going on first before you open that little minded mouth of yours. And as for speed, you obviously dont play fortress much as looking at how you play or know how i play. And as to what durka says is 100% tru and woudl be even be a harder match vs them if it were in a US server. Congrats to TUI on doin what ya did. Theres the congrats from me.

;PsYkO
: Thx max and rico

;k3nNy
: i think you played for tm legit? and i think tm lost the semis? btw i didnt open my mouth 1 single time while i was writing this. i can imagine you writing with your mouth wide open though xD. well back to the topic: as long as there is no us server which doesnt go nuts with 20+ players, there will no finals be played there i think. i c no reason to do that. same for 2020 server, that one goes nuts too with too many players, well the finals arent played there either are they. i can remember the finals of the 5th ladle, which even were moved after start from 2020 to zmans? btw the ping doesnt make a that huge difference as you guys are acting it does.

;Legit
: I never complained about my match about loosing, ive been talking about the tui vs sp match. You know dam well you needed the winzone and them holes or you wouldnt have survived that close of a game maybe 100-50 if your lucky but in a US server would be even worse for you cause of course european servers get overruled all the time cause SOME european people like you bitch about how laggy it always is for you in our servers and dont ever think about the fact how it is for us in your servers and deal with it all the time so now you can think of how the score would have been for tui in a us server then in a european server even when they made it a close enuff game in euro server xD .

;[[User:Sasha|Sasha]]
: Wow! WTF R U talking about? Lets see who will win the next one: Ladle 8! About holing: for me its a part of the _classic_fortress_ game (see server settings and shut up or tell something to server admin). About win-zone: the same answer. My opinion: holes can be used and winzone must be used (of course its fun for those who are playing, but not for the others who are just sitting and watching fuckin stupid square defense and attackers doing nothing).
: Specially for those who sad "holing is for n000bz, winzone is guyzone" I want to say: "Then n00bz own you! HA-HA-HA!" ;)
: Ok, after all I sad, I want to say that I also think that we won doubly/foul (dunno english well, choice the right word).
: To team X: Great game, good team, I want to face you again.
: To TuI: It was fun to play with "numbers" :) I also want to meet you on grid again.
: To Legit: shut up sometimes :)
: To Durka: test
: To 2020: organize something like madmax sad, please.

;MaZuffeR
:Interesting to see that you guys really take this so seriously, it's just a game :). I just watched some parts of the final. TuI didn't adapt to SP using pretty much every possible hole. The sweepers should have played much closer to the zone, so that they could cover the hole, or atleast go through the hole right after the attacker. The times I saw an attacker going through a hole, there was no sweeper close to him. And Durka, if you don't want holes in your wall, don't kill the attackers at every chance you get, let the sweepers take care of them (yes, I'm serious).

;fr34ky
:Hmrpf, let's cound the US Players/EU Players and guess why we play on european servers. Sure you can manage an US Ladle, but without me and certainly many other EU Players. I also hate high pings (yeah it's also not easy for a low-pinger to kill an US-High-pinger) but can you manage a flying server or one in the ocean?

;Rico
:LOL at a flying server xD

;Omega
:who edited my msn speech :O
:And lol we arent allowed to use our own players in a competition, yes whatup and psyko did alot but we beat x without psyko, and they have a lot of good players. Stop with the excuses you lost to a better team on the day end of!

;k3nNy
:well, as many in here partially blame their ping (see the finals) for loosing, i went through zmans stats and compared the finals with the x-sp semifinals. well here some stats first:

:Top 3 match 1 Tui vs Sp:
:Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
:~*WhAtUp*~ No 16 145 Team blue
:TuI~4 No 14 207 Team gold
:~tui~ 5 Yes 10 156 Team gold
:Tui: 6 players, average 176 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 99 ping

:Top 3 match 2 Tui vs Sp:
:Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
:TuI~4 Yes 20 207 Team gold
:TuI~2 Yes 14 78 Team gold
:~tui~ 5 No 8 205 Team gold
:Tui: 7 players, average 172 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 114 ping

:Top 3 match 3 Tui vs Sp:
:Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
:TuI~4 No 16 205 Team gold
:~*SP*~5 Yes 12 345 Team blue
:TuI~2 No 10 83 Team gold
:Tui: 7 players, average 164 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 155 ping

:Top 3 match 4 Tui vs Sp:
:Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
:TuI~4 Yes 16 210 Team gold
:~*WhAtUp*~ No 14 140 Team blue
:TuI~2 No 14 83 Team gold
:Tui: 6 players, average 143 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 110 ping
:Total averages: Tui: 163, Sp: 120 // diff: 43
:(the outcome in a row: sp-tui: 1-0 1-1 2-1 3-1)

:Top 3 match 1 x vs sp:
:Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
:~*WhAtUp*~ No 18 145 Team blue
:¦×¦ Infamous Yes 10 88 Team gold
:¦×¦Rico Yes 10 100 Team gold
:X: 8 players, average 77 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 110 ping

:Top 3 match 2 x vs sp:
:Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
:~*SP*~viper~ Yes 14 70 Team blue
:~*WhAtUp*~ No 12 147 Team blue
:¦×¦ W4z3r No 10 99 Team gold
:X: 8 players, average 80 ping
:Sp: 8 players, average 108 ping
:Total averages: X: 79, Sp: 109 // diff: 30
:(the outcome in a row: x-sp: 0-1 0-2)

:the finals compared with the semis show quite good that the ping is not "that" important. :the top 5 rankings even show it more. only 1 time out of 6 matches an european player was on top.
:of course if your ping is higher then like 220 you will get problems. and someone with a 40 ping will have a slight advantage against someone with 200.
:(also see: http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~moos/tronstats/ladle7/ by zman)
:btw my ping wasnt very good that day durka :) from ~150 in the afternoon till finally ~60 in the late evening. Actually most of the time only viper (and me in the last match) had "good" pings around 50-60.

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== Previous Results ==
Sixth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-09T15:56:01Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

{{Ladle-7}}

Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again... We have to discuss stuff so that decisions made...

== Feedback for the Seventh Ladle ==
;Legit
: For starters, that was the worst ladle ive ever played. We organized a team and then when we played all positions etc... were all fucked up and hyphy i asked him to lay off def cus hes always too close and he still does it and fucked def once again. And as for redice little oops noob tking our whole team, at least 5 players in one round! And was unfair for that and also because the admin wasnt very good at locking a server cause some noob joined our team and fucked our whole team up as well. all this i will probably not play for TM anymore. And as for the finals was pretty good match to watch but tui was definantly the better team as watching how SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone. It was also funny when SP members would tell tui people to stfu and talk shit to them when they won but was also funny when pysko got all mad when someone got in his def and said it was a bullshit win for tui, next ladle should be handled better then this one.

;2020
: I forgot I was meant to be harsher with team entry. Most of us gathered and got the team organised. Then we started our game again TuI, and hyph refused to stay in midfield and got involved with def. I tried to tighten us up as a team, and for the first time issued a threat... which didn't go well with some members of the team who weren't aware of the havoc at the back. We lost the first match. And in the second, new players entered the server, a player using a familiar team name team-killed, and wrtl was constantly asked to admin the game -- and he was our defender! I didn't get into any kind of groove, played like a noob. What a mess.
:No idea what to do. I try to make it as clear as possible on the challenge board, and people seem confused about when it starts etc. I canjust about handle that, but not try to organise a team as well. I just want to play in a good game!!!!!!!!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:The organization was a bit spectacle this time because of the games being delayed by 45 minutes. Otherwise everything went smoothly.

:About the finals, I didn't really care that it was 6 on 8 and they had a 2 man advantage, but what really pissed me off, was that it was 1-1 and in the 3rd match while the score was 76-70 their lead, the winzone popped up. We even had a one man advantage I belive at that point. They took the winzone and that boosted the score to 86-70. We could have easily won that match. Then, to top it off, they holed me (I was def) and went in and got the zone (using their 2 man advantage made it quite impossible to stop them while in the zone). Them winning that match completely turns around the entire finals. Instead of being 2-1 us, its 2-1 them. Then, in the 4th match, it was definately getting close, and it was 96-88 in the final round, and for the 10th time in the finals, I got holed by ~*SP*~ and they took the match.

:My point I'm trying to make is that:
:*There should be no winzone what so ever
:*I know we've talked about this before, but as long as a team gets at least 5 or 6 players there, the other team should at least cut 1 person. I'm fine with a one-man advantage & I'm also fine with a two-man advantage, or even 3, but if they use those extra men to hole the defense 10 times throughout 4 matches, then that (in my mind) is a bit unfair.

;'''Rico'''
:I dont mind doing it in a reg game, but in a serious tourney, when I'm trying to def against 4 attackers, I dont take kindly to the rest of the opposing team spamming me with messages to put me off. I'd have ignored them, but when theres so much spam it takes up half your screen and you have to play with only 10 fps anyway, it kinda pissed me off.

:Not that I was playing well anyway as it happens, but when I'm subject to "omg, our def sucks, alex you made us lose" etc etc criticism from my OWN TEAM because I was being distracted multiple ways... I do happen to get annoyed.

:Whatever, I'll still be taking part in some events in the future. Just remind me to silence the WHOLE of the opposition.

;AshitakA
:I just want to admit that it wasn’t redice, who played at the end. He abused his name like 2020 already said. What a bummer! He hadn’t the courage to make it with his own name. Anyway, for the next ladle I want to mention the idea to let teams also play for the 3rd and 4th or 5th and 6th place. It wouldn’t take much more time, because they play at the same time as the final would be. At the moment there are enough fort server online to realise this idea. Maybe you can include it into the ladle system.

;k3nNy
:Sp had a good setup, a good team with good team organisation. i think it is sad that no one here can gratulate sp for winning the ladle but instead some of you are searching for excuses why sp shouldnt have won the ladle. first: legit. hey dude, you say sp wasnt good as tui? i think thats kinda odd when you watch the field domination sp had during the finals. sp played with 2-3 defensive players and they didnt have much to do. sp was playing with 5 offensive players. so if you count those 5 offensive players + the defensive tui players you get quite much players dont u? so isnt it then a logical outcome that there is a quite high percentage for the defence of being holed by a dying player? so legit, tell me 1 person who wouldnt use a hole in the finals of the ladle. "SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone" --> this sounds for me that u accuse sp for holling on purpuse, which wasnt at all.
:well then about the winzone... first of all: as always i think it should be disabled too.
:then to the situation: durka, it was a 2 on 2 situation, 1 sp attacking against 2 doubledefending tuis (which made it impossible for the attacker to do sth), 1 sp staying in the back in case the attacker dies. how long did that situation last? how long could it have been lasting. well i was the one in the back, probably grinding myself for the 30st time in a row, waiting for sth to happen. first i thought aw dam winzone wth are you doin here. then i thought what the heck. so i think the first time i took a winzone because i was gettin that bored back in there! i just wanted that round to be over, i didnt care if tui would have taken it.
:oh and back to legit again: sp members well telling tui members to shut up because they were whining non stop. its a ladle final, so please be a man, play it and loose it or win it. congratulations sps!
:btw. exept i think the winzone should be disabled by default, i think this ladle was fine as usual.

;Legit
:LoL kenny, fine speech but TUI is definantly were better players. Just by knowing some of the members in tui and i dont even know most of them and i knew all SP that were playing TUI has definantly better team. Who did you have? Pysko and Sasha and uhh who else...? LoL anyways, if you were so bored of the ladle match and wanted to get the winzone then why the fuck are you playing in the ladle if its boring?!?! You had a player HellBlade who didnt even get to play and wanted to and you sat there being bored playin it when someone else in your clan could had actually enjoyed it? Your excuses are lame and you know you were afraid sp was going to loose cause TUI was a better team that why you really got the winzone.

;fr34ky
:LoL Legit, nice offenses but SP just won with all allowed methods, using no cheats. Holes were allowed, so we used them...a Winzone was there too, k3nNy used it and i agree with him! At first...it's really boring back there, and you know why it was boring? - No, not because Ladle is so boring, it was because no TuI attacked us...and why didnt they attack us? Hmmm, i think you know the answer. Oh and k3nNy had no chance to see any TuI not using the winzone...so he couldnt know TuI didnt want to use it. Congratulations Speeders, nice Ladle for us and certainly many other Players (except you Legit :->)
:greets, fr34ky

;k3nNy
:you must have been in another match legit, because i didnt have one single time the feeling tui was going to win. they had a good comeback to 1-1 but that was it. sp was the best team yesterday, because they acted like a team. good teamplay etc. made us strong. we didnt care about "players" like you do. everyone had their job, and everyone did it great. the reason why hellblade couldnt play is because he is an offensive player too, and we were already playing with 5 offensive players with psyko and me in defence (and obli), though we are normally both offensive players too. still i wont force anyone in a good playing team to sit out.
:and to you legit, please stop your whining and complaining all the time. that prejudiced whining of you is goin on my nerves. if you loose you loose, then stand to it. maybe you will win next time again, who knows. but stop that prejeduce stuff like: oh sp used holes, they certainly did that on purpurse. oh k3nny said he got bored that round, in that case he certainly thought the whole ladle was boring ?!? if you dont get it dude, go and watch the replay of that round, maybe in 10 years you will understand it when ur mature enough.

;'''Rico'''
:Funny that no-one has replied to my comment about the purposeful distractions. Of course it doesn't matter, as all of you would deny it anyway.

:Anyway, grats, even though winzoning is the lamest way to win ever, just an unparallelled level of chicken-ness. And ok, holing is fine, but when its like 5 on 1 and someone holes on purpose, thats annoying. As a defender, I have to deal with it all the time.

:Thats my piece, any comments about the purposeful distractions would be much appreciated. Thanks

;PsYkO
:How about a "congratz"?

;madmax
:First of all, congratz. I pretty much know nothing more about what happened so...
:The main thing I see is that always playing a knockout competition is not a good thing. It gets too... usual. I think some kind of championship competition and making the ladles more spaced (two/threee months maybe more?) would be a nice idea.
:I think in a knockout system it sure proves who was the best team then, but hey, what if a team who lost one game would win against all other teams? What if they were having a bad day? Having a championship (point based) would be IMHO a good idea. Perhaps that whole thought of "Kings Of the Grid"... After all, theres already a domain :)
:Also, it would benefit teams that consistently make good games, not only "that day" with "that conditions" with "..."
;Speed
Legit will you ever stop complaining and whining o they holed o they did this o is that a 2 yr old i hear talking legit because it sures sounds like one...
Legit also who are you to say people suck whenever i see you in a game its lag killed me omg i just slipped or someother bs excuse i have never seen you once do a spectacular move to win a match, now you slag of redice out of oops is that because they rejected you when you tryed joining them hmmm i wonder.
Save your complaints for people who care and btw when your good then i think you may have a leg to stand on atm you got a damn toothbrush.

;Rico
:Read my post before psyko, i did say grats ;)

;Omega
ROFL TUI
The first round we won where it was a 4 on 2. 1 attacker died and made a hole and the other attackers didnt go through. But instead waited till they had dumped the sweeper into his won def, and then went through that hole, you where even then calling us holers etc. You guys where making excuses every round.......

Durka 76-70 so what, whose to say you would have won. Statistically accounting for the match ending 3-1, you would have lost. I remember the 2 ladles ago the 5th which TM won i remember final match we were down 70-92 and we still won, so saying we would have easily won etc is nonsense as anything can happen. This reminds me of WPN etc, you guys are both like immature little children who cant take losing at all.
And @alex who was spamming you, tell me and ill sort em out.
:;Durka
::Are you kidding me? The winzone is a 20 point spin. 10 points for you guys which made it 86-70. It could have been 80-76. Then again, I would have liked to see you guys beat us that round considering the fact that thru 6 matches in the Ladle, I only got pwnd twice, & the 2 people that got by me from SP had already died. I'm not being cocky, but I always like a challenge and that would have been fun.
::Forgetting all of this, I know it was our fault, but look what kenny said above. They had 5 people attacking. Well, we only had 6 players total (again, this was our fault). So, you expect us to play agressive being 2 men down each round. That's similar to having like a 4 on 2 and having the team with 2 be on the attack. It makes no sense. When we played you guys in the last ladle and beat you guys, all you said was, well we didn't have Psyko or Whatup. Yes, Psyko & Whatup helped you a lot this ladle, but if we had brought 2 more players, then it would have gotten interesting and we would have been more on the attack. We look forward to rematching you guys, but with a full team this time. O, and how about the thought of playing in a US server? I'd like to see Viper, Cyclo, Kenny, Sasha, & Omega with pings like what I usually get :)
;k3nNy
:i think that round of the winzone stuff wasnt that match deciding. it was more important who was goin to win the round after that one. you could have equalized to about 90-86 or if it would have been the otherway round we could have gone from 80-76 to about 92-86. still, i hope we wont have that situation in future again. in case the zone doesnt get turned off, teams could tell before the matches each other they wont use it, then it should be np too.
:its true our field domination was partially that high because of the higher number of players. still the rules of the ladle arent very strict, so it should be no problem for a team to get it full actually. thats why i am against cutting players in the ladle if the other team hasnt enough. make sure you have 9-10 and it should be no problem.
:about that whatup and psyko & last ladle stuff. we didnt loose the last ladle because they werent here. we lost it because the organisation was bad & the setup was totally wrong. this ladle we played the semis against x. and they were strong i can tell u. they filled their team with players like pavelo. psyko didnt even play yet & whatup took cyclos place because he didnt show up either. in case whatup also wouldnt have been there we still had a great center attacker in hellblade. so, we won it 2-0 then. then to the finals: psyko got a spot in the team & got defender. but as we had 5 attackers and your team was (forced) playing defensive, we didnt have had much to do back there. so psyko wasnt very much involved. so i can tell u: we didnt win because whatup was playing & later psyko too, but because the teamplay etc. was great. thats far more important. i dont c team somethingsomething win because of 1 or 2 players either. they won because they were a great team. and i also dont c pings deciding the matches. btw those 2 players who made the difference in your opinion were "highpingers" from us too. :)
:well i look forward to the next ladle & playing against tui again. i hope in a balanced 8 vs 8 and on either zmans or wrtl, just simply because those 2 servers are the ones who dont go nuts when there are 20+ players on it :) (16 playing + spec & exchange players).

;Legit
: Oh kenny dont give me that bs that i didnt see what was goin on, i was in spectator mode the whole time watching around. Im not even in the tui match so what are you sayin i loose sum i loose sum? Kno whats going on first before you open that little minded mouth of yours. And as for speed, you obviously dont play fortress much as looking at how you play or know how i play. And as to what durka says is 100% tru and woudl be even be a harder match vs them if it were in a US server. Congrats to TUI on doin what ya did. Theres the congrats from me.

;PsYkO
: Thx max and rico

;k3nNy
: i think you played for tm legit? and i think tm lost the semis? btw i didnt open my mouth 1 single time while i was writing this. i can imagine you writing with your mouth wide open though xD. well back to the topic: as long as there is no us server which doesnt go nuts with 20+ players, there will no finals be played there i think. i c no reason to do that. same for 2020 server, that one goes nuts too with too many players, well the finals arent played there either are they. i can remember the finals of the 5th ladle, which even were moved after start from 2020 to zmans? btw the ping doesnt make a that huge difference as you guys are acting it does.

;Legit
: I never complained about my match about loosing, ive been talking about the tui vs sp match. You know dam well you needed the winzone and them holes or you wouldnt have survived that close of a game maybe 100-50 if your lucky but in a US server would be even worse for you cause of course european servers get overruled all the time cause SOME european people like you bitch about how laggy it always is for you in our servers and dont ever think about the fact how it is for us in your servers and deal with it all the time so now you can think of how the score would have been for tui in a us server then in a european server even when they made it a close enuff game in euro server xD .

;[[User:Sasha|Sasha]]
: Wow! WTF R U talking about? Lets see who will win the next one: Ladle 8! About holing: for me its a part of the _classic_fortress_ game (see server settings and shut up or tell something to server admin). About win-zone: the same answer. My opinion: holes can be used and winzone must be used (of course its fun for those who are playing, but not for the others who are just sitting and watching fuckin stupid square defense and attackers doing nothing).
: Specially for those who sad "holing is for n000bz, winzone is guyzone" I want to say: "Then n00bz own you! HA-HA-HA!" ;)
: Ok, after all I sad, I want to say that I also think that we won doubly/foul (dunno english well, choice the right word).
: To team X: Great game, good team, I want to face you again.
: To TuI: It was fun to play with "numbers" :) I also want to meet you on grid again.
: To Legit: shut up sometimes :)
: To Durka: test
: To 2020: organize something like madmax sad, please.

;MaZuffeR
:Interesting to see that you guys really take this so seriously, it's just a game :). I just watched some parts of the final. TuI didn't adapt to SP using pretty much every possible hole. The sweepers should have played much closer to the zone, so that they could cover the hole, or atleast go through the hole right after the attacker. The times I saw an attacker going through a hole, there was no sweeper close to him. And Durka, if you don't want holes in your wall, don't kill the attackers at every chance you get, let the sweepers take care of them (yes, I'm serious).

;fr34ky
:Hmrpf, let's cound the US Players/EU Players and guess why we play on european servers. Sure you can manage an US Ladle, but without me and certainly many other EU Players. I also hate high pings (yeah it's also not easy for a low-pinger to kill an US-High-pinger) but can you manage a flying server or one in the ocean?

;Rico
:LOL at a flying server xD

;Omega
:who edited my msn speech :O
:And lol we arent allowed to use our own players in a competition, yes whatup and psyko did alot but we beat x without psyko, and they have a lot of good players. Stop with the excuses you lost to a better team on the day end of!

;k3nNy
:well, as many in here partially blame their ping (see the finals) for loosing, i went through zmans stats and compared the finals with the x-sp semifinals. well here some stats first:

Top 3 match 1 Tui vs Sp:
Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
~*WhAtUp*~ No 16 145 Team blue
TuI~4 No 14 207 Team gold
~tui~ 5 Yes 10 156 Team gold
Tui: 6 players, average 176 ping
Sp: 8 players, average 99 ping

Top 3 match 2 Tui vs Sp:
Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
TuI~4 Yes 20 207 Team gold
TuI~2 Yes 14 78 Team gold
~tui~ 5 No 8 205 Team gold
Tui: 7 players, average 172 ping
Sp: 8 players, average 114 ping

Top 3 match 3 Tui vs Sp:
Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
TuI~4 No 16 205 Team gold
~*SP*~5 Yes 12 345 Team blue
TuI~2 No 10 83 Team gold
Tui: 7 players, average 164 ping
Sp: 8 players, average 155 ping

Top 3 match 4 Tui vs Sp:
Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
TuI~4 Yes 16 210 Team gold
~*WhAtUp*~ No 14 140 Team blue
TuI~2 No 14 83 Team gold
Tui: 6 players, average 143 ping
Sp: 8 players, average 110 ping
Total averages: Tui: 163, Sp: 120 // diff: 43
(the outcome in a row: sp-tui: 1-0 1-1 2-1 3-1)

Top 3 match 1 x vs sp:
Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
~*WhAtUp*~ No 18 145 Team blue
¦×¦ Infamous Yes 10 88 Team gold
¦×¦Rico Yes 10 100 Team gold
X: 8 players, average 77 ping
Sp: 8 players, average 110 ping

Top 3 match 2 x vs sp:
Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
~*SP*~viper~ Yes 14 70 Team blue
~*WhAtUp*~ No 12 147 Team blue
¦×¦ W4z3r No 10 99 Team gold
X: 8 players, average 80 ping
Sp: 8 players, average 108 ping
Total averages: X: 79, Sp: 109 // diff: 30
(the outcome in a row: x-sp: 0-1 0-2)

the finals compared with the semis show quite good that the ping is not "that" important. the top 5 rankings even show it more. only 1 time out of 6 matches an european player was on top.
of course if your ping is higher then like 220 you will get problems. and someone with a 40 ping will have a slight advantage against someone with 200.
(also see: http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~moos/tronstats/ladle7/ by zman)
btw my ping wasnt very good that day durka :) from ~150 in the afternoon till finally ~60 in the late evening. Actually most of the time only viper (and me in the last match) had "good" pings around 50-60.

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== Previous Results ==
Sixth Ladle:
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! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-09T04:10:54Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

{{Ladle-7}}

Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again... We have to discuss stuff so that decisions made...

== Feedback for the Seventh Ladle ==
;Legit
: For starters, that was the worst ladle ive ever played. We organized a team and then when we played all positions etc... were all fucked up and hyphy i asked him to lay off def cus hes always too close and he still does it and fucked def once again. And as for redice little oops noob tking our whole team, at least 5 players in one round! And was unfair for that and also because the admin wasnt very good at locking a server cause some noob joined our team and fucked our whole team up as well. all this i will probably not play for TM anymore. And as for the finals was pretty good match to watch but tui was definantly the better team as watching how SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone. It was also funny when SP members would tell tui people to stfu and talk shit to them when they won but was also funny when pysko got all mad when someone got in his def and said it was a bullshit win for tui, next ladle should be handled better then this one.

;2020
: I forgot I was meant to be harsher with team entry. Most of us gathered and got the team organised. Then we started our game again TuI, and hyph refused to stay in midfield and got involved with def. I tried to tighten us up as a team, and for the first time issued a threat... which didn't go well with some members of the team who weren't aware of the havoc at the back. We lost the first match. And in the second, new players entered the server, a player using a familiar team name team-killed, and wrtl was constantly asked to admin the game -- and he was our defender! I didn't get into any kind of groove, played like a noob. What a mess.
:No idea what to do. I try to make it as clear as possible on the challenge board, and people seem confused about when it starts etc. I canjust about handle that, but not try to organise a team as well. I just want to play in a good game!!!!!!!!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:The organization was a bit spectacle this time because of the games being delayed by 45 minutes. Otherwise everything went smoothly.

:About the finals, I didn't really care that it was 6 on 8 and they had a 2 man advantage, but what really pissed me off, was that it was 1-1 and in the 3rd match while the score was 76-70 their lead, the winzone popped up. We even had a one man advantage I belive at that point. They took the winzone and that boosted the score to 86-70. We could have easily won that match. Then, to top it off, they holed me (I was def) and went in and got the zone (using their 2 man advantage made it quite impossible to stop them while in the zone). Them winning that match completely turns around the entire finals. Instead of being 2-1 us, its 2-1 them. Then, in the 4th match, it was definately getting close, and it was 96-88 in the final round, and for the 10th time in the finals, I got holed by ~*SP*~ and they took the match.

:My point I'm trying to make is that:
:*There should be no winzone what so ever
:*I know we've talked about this before, but as long as a team gets at least 5 or 6 players there, the other team should at least cut 1 person. I'm fine with a one-man advantage & I'm also fine with a two-man advantage, or even 3, but if they use those extra men to hole the defense 10 times throughout 4 matches, then that (in my mind) is a bit unfair.

;'''Rico'''
:I dont mind doing it in a reg game, but in a serious tourney, when I'm trying to def against 4 attackers, I dont take kindly to the rest of the opposing team spamming me with messages to put me off. I'd have ignored them, but when theres so much spam it takes up half your screen and you have to play with only 10 fps anyway, it kinda pissed me off.

:Not that I was playing well anyway as it happens, but when I'm subject to "omg, our def sucks, alex you made us lose" etc etc criticism from my OWN TEAM because I was being distracted multiple ways... I do happen to get annoyed.

:Whatever, I'll still be taking part in some events in the future. Just remind me to silence the WHOLE of the opposition.

;AshitakA
:I just want to admit that it wasn’t redice, who played at the end. He abused his name like 2020 already said. What a bummer! He hadn’t the courage to make it with his own name. Anyway, for the next ladle I want to mention the idea to let teams also play for the 3rd and 4th or 5th and 6th place. It wouldn’t take much more time, because they play at the same time as the final would be. At the moment there are enough fort server online to realise this idea. Maybe you can include it into the ladle system.

;k3nNy
:Sp had a good setup, a good team with good team organisation. i think it is sad that no one here can gratulate sp for winning the ladle but instead some of you are searching for excuses why sp shouldnt have won the ladle. first: legit. hey dude, you say sp wasnt good as tui? i think thats kinda odd when you watch the field domination sp had during the finals. sp played with 2-3 defensive players and they didnt have much to do. sp was playing with 5 offensive players. so if you count those 5 offensive players + the defensive tui players you get quite much players dont u? so isnt it then a logical outcome that there is a quite high percentage for the defence of being holed by a dying player? so legit, tell me 1 person who wouldnt use a hole in the finals of the ladle. "SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone" --> this sounds for me that u accuse sp for holling on purpuse, which wasnt at all.
:well then about the winzone... first of all: as always i think it should be disabled too.
:then to the situation: durka, it was a 2 on 2 situation, 1 sp attacking against 2 doubledefending tuis (which made it impossible for the attacker to do sth), 1 sp staying in the back in case the attacker dies. how long did that situation last? how long could it have been lasting. well i was the one in the back, probably grinding myself for the 30st time in a row, waiting for sth to happen. first i thought aw dam winzone wth are you doin here. then i thought what the heck. so i think the first time i took a winzone because i was gettin that bored back in there! i just wanted that round to be over, i didnt care if tui would have taken it.
:oh and back to legit again: sp members well telling tui members to shut up because they were whining non stop. its a ladle final, so please be a man, play it and loose it or win it. congratulations sps!
:btw. exept i think the winzone should be disabled by default, i think this ladle was fine as usual.

;Legit
:LoL kenny, fine speech but TUI is definantly were better players. Just by knowing some of the members in tui and i dont even know most of them and i knew all SP that were playing TUI has definantly better team. Who did you have? Pysko and Sasha and uhh who else...? LoL anyways, if you were so bored of the ladle match and wanted to get the winzone then why the fuck are you playing in the ladle if its boring?!?! You had a player HellBlade who didnt even get to play and wanted to and you sat there being bored playin it when someone else in your clan could had actually enjoyed it? Your excuses are lame and you know you were afraid sp was going to loose cause TUI was a better team that why you really got the winzone.

;fr34ky
:LoL Legit, nice offenses but SP just won with all allowed methods, using no cheats. Holes were allowed, so we used them...a Winzone was there too, k3nNy used it and i agree with him! At first...it's really boring back there, and you know why it was boring? - No, not because Ladle is so boring, it was because no TuI attacked us...and why didnt they attack us? Hmmm, i think you know the answer. Oh and k3nNy had no chance to see any TuI not using the winzone...so he couldnt know TuI didnt want to use it. Congratulations Speeders, nice Ladle for us and certainly many other Players (except you Legit :->)
:greets, fr34ky

;k3nNy
:you must have been in another match legit, because i didnt have one single time the feeling tui was going to win. they had a good comeback to 1-1 but that was it. sp was the best team yesterday, because they acted like a team. good teamplay etc. made us strong. we didnt care about "players" like you do. everyone had their job, and everyone did it great. the reason why hellblade couldnt play is because he is an offensive player too, and we were already playing with 5 offensive players with psyko and me in defence (and obli), though we are normally both offensive players too. still i wont force anyone in a good playing team to sit out.
:and to you legit, please stop your whining and complaining all the time. that prejudiced whining of you is goin on my nerves. if you loose you loose, then stand to it. maybe you will win next time again, who knows. but stop that prejeduce stuff like: oh sp used holes, they certainly did that on purpurse. oh k3nny said he got bored that round, in that case he certainly thought the whole ladle was boring ?!? if you dont get it dude, go and watch the replay of that round, maybe in 10 years you will understand it when ur mature enough.

;'''Rico'''
:Funny that no-one has replied to my comment about the purposeful distractions. Of course it doesn't matter, as all of you would deny it anyway.

:Anyway, grats, even though winzoning is the lamest way to win ever, just an unparallelled level of chicken-ness. And ok, holing is fine, but when its like 5 on 1 and someone holes on purpose, thats annoying. As a defender, I have to deal with it all the time.

:Thats my piece, any comments about the purposeful distractions would be much appreciated. Thanks

;PsYkO
:How about a "congratz"?

;madmax
:First of all, congratz. I pretty much know nothing more about what happened so...
:The main thing I see is that always playing a knockout competition is not a good thing. It gets too... usual. I think some kind of championship competition and making the ladles more spaced (two/threee months maybe more?) would be a nice idea.
:I think in a knockout system it sure proves who was the best team then, but hey, what if a team who lost one game would win against all other teams? What if they were having a bad day? Having a championship (point based) would be IMHO a good idea. Perhaps that whole thought of "Kings Of the Grid"... After all, theres already a domain :)
:Also, it would benefit teams that consistently make good games, not only "that day" with "that conditions" with "..."
;Speed
Legit will you ever stop complaining and whining o they holed o they did this o is that a 2 yr old i hear talking legit because it sures sounds like one...
Legit also who are you to say people suck whenever i see you in a game its lag killed me omg i just slipped or someother bs excuse i have never seen you once do a spectacular move to win a match, now you slag of redice out of oops is that because they rejected you when you tryed joining them hmmm i wonder.
Save your complaints for people who care and btw when your good then i think you may have a leg to stand on atm you got a damn toothbrush.

;Rico
:Read my post before psyko, i did say grats ;)

;Omega
ROFL TUI
The first round we won where it was a 4 on 2. 1 attacker died and made a hole and the other attackers didnt go through. But instead waited till they had dumped the sweeper into his won def, and then went through that hole, you where even then calling us holers etc. You guys where making excuses every round.......

Durka 76-70 so what, whose to say you would have won. Statistically accounting for the match ending 3-1, you would have lost. I remember the 2 ladles ago the 5th which TM won i remember final match we were down 70-92 and we still won, so saying we would have easily won etc is nonsense as anything can happen. This reminds me of WPN etc, you guys are both like immature little children who cant take losing at all.
And @alex who was spamming you, tell me and ill sort em out.
:;Durka
::Are you kidding me? The winzone is a 20 point spin. 10 points for you guys which made it 86-70. It could have been 80-76. Then again, I would have liked to see you guys beat us that round considering the fact that thru 6 matches in the Ladle, I only got pwnd twice, & the 2 people that got by me from SP had already died. I'm not being cocky, but I always like a challenge and that would have been fun.
::Forgetting all of this, I know it was our fault, but look what kenny said above. They had 5 people attacking. Well, we only had 6 players total (again, this was our fault). So, you expect us to play agressive being 2 men down each round. That's similar to having like a 4 on 2 and having the team with 2 be on the attack. It makes no sense. When we played you guys in the last ladle and beat you guys, all you said was, well we didn't have Psyko or Whatup. Yes, Psyko & Whatup helped you a lot this ladle, but if we had brought 2 more players, then it would have gotten interesting and we would have been more on the attack. We look forward to rematching you guys, but with a full team this time. O, and how about the thought of playing in a US server? I'd like to see Viper, Cyclo, Kenny, Sasha, & Omega with pings like what I usually get :)
;k3nNy
:i think that round of the winzone stuff wasnt that match deciding. it was more important who was goin to win the round after that one. you could have equalized to about 90-86 or if it would have been the otherway round we could have gone from 80-76 to about 92-86. still, i hope we wont have that situation in future again. in case the zone doesnt get turned off, teams could tell before the matches each other they wont use it, then it should be np too.
:its true our field domination was partially that high because of the higher number of players. still the rules of the ladle arent very strict, so it should be no problem for a team to get it full actually. thats why i am against cutting players in the ladle if the other team hasnt enough. make sure you have 9-10 and it should be no problem.
:about that whatup and psyko & last ladle stuff. we didnt loose the last ladle because they werent here. we lost it because the organisation was bad & the setup was totally wrong. this ladle we played the semis against x. and they were strong i can tell u. they filled their team with players like pavelo. psyko didnt even play yet & whatup took cyclos place because he didnt show up either. in case whatup also wouldnt have been there we still had a great center attacker in hellblade. so, we won it 2-0 then. then to the finals: psyko got a spot in the team & got defender. but as we had 5 attackers and your team was (forced) playing defensive, we didnt have had much to do back there. so psyko wasnt very much involved. so i can tell u: we didnt win because whatup was playing & later psyko too, but because the teamplay etc. was great. thats far more important. i dont c team somethingsomething win because of 1 or 2 players either. they won because they were a great team. and i also dont c pings deciding the matches. btw those 2 players who made the difference in your opinion were "highpingers" from us too. :)
:well i look forward to the next ladle & playing against tui again. i hope in a balanced 8 vs 8 and on either zmans or wrtl, just simply because those 2 servers are the ones who dont go nuts when there are 20+ players on it :) (16 playing + spec & exchange players).

;Legit
: Oh kenny dont give me that bs that i didnt see what was goin on, i was in spectator mode the whole time watching around. Im not even in the tui match so what are you sayin i loose sum i loose sum? Kno whats going on first before you open that little minded mouth of yours. And as for speed, you obviously dont play fortress much as looking at how you play or know how i play. And as to what durka says is 100% tru and woudl be even be a harder match vs them if it were in a US server. Congrats to TUI on doin what ya did. Theres the congrats from me.

;PsYkO
: Thx max and rico

;k3nNy
: i think you played for tm legit? and i think tm lost the semis? btw i didnt open my mouth 1 single time while i was writing this. i can imagine you writing with your mouth wide open though xD. well back to the topic: as long as there is no us server which doesnt go nuts with 20+ players, there will no finals be played there i think. i c no reason to do that. same for 2020 server, that one goes nuts too with too many players, well the finals arent played there either are they. i can remember the finals of the 5th ladle, which even were moved after start from 2020 to zmans? btw the ping doesnt make a that huge difference as you guys are acting it does.

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~ z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
who spammed you

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
like everyone

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
i cant remember exactly, not all were pm messages

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
but there was like ur teamspeak, which wasnt in /team going down my page

z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
so
z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
we were talking

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
yea but u could have done it in /team like we did

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
in particular when theres still ppl playing

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
anyway its no big deal, just if we play you again and i get it ill just silence ua ll

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== Previous Results ==
Sixth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-09T04:10:13Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

{{Ladle-7}}

Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again... We have to discuss stuff so that decisions made...

== Feedback for the Seventh Ladle ==
;Legit
: For starters, that was the worst ladle ive ever played. We organized a team and then when we played all positions etc... were all fucked up and hyphy i asked him to lay off def cus hes always too close and he still does it and fucked def once again. And as for redice little oops noob tking our whole team, at least 5 players in one round! And was unfair for that and also because the admin wasnt very good at locking a server cause some noob joined our team and fucked our whole team up as well. all this i will probably not play for TM anymore. And as for the finals was pretty good match to watch but tui was definantly the better team as watching how SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone. It was also funny when SP members would tell tui people to stfu and talk shit to them when they won but was also funny when pysko got all mad when someone got in his def and said it was a bullshit win for tui, next ladle should be handled better then this one.

;2020
: I forgot I was meant to be harsher with team entry. Most of us gathered and got the team organised. Then we started our game again TuI, and hyph refused to stay in midfield and got involved with def. I tried to tighten us up as a team, and for the first time issued a threat... which didn't go well with some members of the team who weren't aware of the havoc at the back. We lost the first match. And in the second, new players entered the server, a player using a familiar team name team-killed, and wrtl was constantly asked to admin the game -- and he was our defender! I didn't get into any kind of groove, played like a noob. What a mess.
:No idea what to do. I try to make it as clear as possible on the challenge board, and people seem confused about when it starts etc. I canjust about handle that, but not try to organise a team as well. I just want to play in a good game!!!!!!!!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:The organization was a bit spectacle this time because of the games being delayed by 45 minutes. Otherwise everything went smoothly.

:About the finals, I didn't really care that it was 6 on 8 and they had a 2 man advantage, but what really pissed me off, was that it was 1-1 and in the 3rd match while the score was 76-70 their lead, the winzone popped up. We even had a one man advantage I belive at that point. They took the winzone and that boosted the score to 86-70. We could have easily won that match. Then, to top it off, they holed me (I was def) and went in and got the zone (using their 2 man advantage made it quite impossible to stop them while in the zone). Them winning that match completely turns around the entire finals. Instead of being 2-1 us, its 2-1 them. Then, in the 4th match, it was definately getting close, and it was 96-88 in the final round, and for the 10th time in the finals, I got holed by ~*SP*~ and they took the match.

:My point I'm trying to make is that:
:*There should be no winzone what so ever
:*I know we've talked about this before, but as long as a team gets at least 5 or 6 players there, the other team should at least cut 1 person. I'm fine with a one-man advantage & I'm also fine with a two-man advantage, or even 3, but if they use those extra men to hole the defense 10 times throughout 4 matches, then that (in my mind) is a bit unfair.

;'''Rico'''
:I dont mind doing it in a reg game, but in a serious tourney, when I'm trying to def against 4 attackers, I dont take kindly to the rest of the opposing team spamming me with messages to put me off. I'd have ignored them, but when theres so much spam it takes up half your screen and you have to play with only 10 fps anyway, it kinda pissed me off.

:Not that I was playing well anyway as it happens, but when I'm subject to "omg, our def sucks, alex you made us lose" etc etc criticism from my OWN TEAM because I was being distracted multiple ways... I do happen to get annoyed.

:Whatever, I'll still be taking part in some events in the future. Just remind me to silence the WHOLE of the opposition.

;AshitakA
:I just want to admit that it wasn’t redice, who played at the end. He abused his name like 2020 already said. What a bummer! He hadn’t the courage to make it with his own name. Anyway, for the next ladle I want to mention the idea to let teams also play for the 3rd and 4th or 5th and 6th place. It wouldn’t take much more time, because they play at the same time as the final would be. At the moment there are enough fort server online to realise this idea. Maybe you can include it into the ladle system.

;k3nNy
:Sp had a good setup, a good team with good team organisation. i think it is sad that no one here can gratulate sp for winning the ladle but instead some of you are searching for excuses why sp shouldnt have won the ladle. first: legit. hey dude, you say sp wasnt good as tui? i think thats kinda odd when you watch the field domination sp had during the finals. sp played with 2-3 defensive players and they didnt have much to do. sp was playing with 5 offensive players. so if you count those 5 offensive players + the defensive tui players you get quite much players dont u? so isnt it then a logical outcome that there is a quite high percentage for the defence of being holed by a dying player? so legit, tell me 1 person who wouldnt use a hole in the finals of the ladle. "SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone" --> this sounds for me that u accuse sp for holling on purpuse, which wasnt at all.
:well then about the winzone... first of all: as always i think it should be disabled too.
:then to the situation: durka, it was a 2 on 2 situation, 1 sp attacking against 2 doubledefending tuis (which made it impossible for the attacker to do sth), 1 sp staying in the back in case the attacker dies. how long did that situation last? how long could it have been lasting. well i was the one in the back, probably grinding myself for the 30st time in a row, waiting for sth to happen. first i thought aw dam winzone wth are you doin here. then i thought what the heck. so i think the first time i took a winzone because i was gettin that bored back in there! i just wanted that round to be over, i didnt care if tui would have taken it.
:oh and back to legit again: sp members well telling tui members to shut up because they were whining non stop. its a ladle final, so please be a man, play it and loose it or win it. congratulations sps!
:btw. exept i think the winzone should be disabled by default, i think this ladle was fine as usual.

;Legit
:LoL kenny, fine speech but TUI is definantly were better players. Just by knowing some of the members in tui and i dont even know most of them and i knew all SP that were playing TUI has definantly better team. Who did you have? Pysko and Sasha and uhh who else...? LoL anyways, if you were so bored of the ladle match and wanted to get the winzone then why the fuck are you playing in the ladle if its boring?!?! You had a player HellBlade who didnt even get to play and wanted to and you sat there being bored playin it when someone else in your clan could had actually enjoyed it? Your excuses are lame and you know you were afraid sp was going to loose cause TUI was a better team that why you really got the winzone.

;fr34ky
:LoL Legit, nice offenses but SP just won with all allowed methods, using no cheats. Holes were allowed, so we used them...a Winzone was there too, k3nNy used it and i agree with him! At first...it's really boring back there, and you know why it was boring? - No, not because Ladle is so boring, it was because no TuI attacked us...and why didnt they attack us? Hmmm, i think you know the answer. Oh and k3nNy had no chance to see any TuI not using the winzone...so he couldnt know TuI didnt want to use it. Congratulations Speeders, nice Ladle for us and certainly many other Players (except you Legit :->)
:greets, fr34ky

;k3nNy
:you must have been in another match legit, because i didnt have one single time the feeling tui was going to win. they had a good comeback to 1-1 but that was it. sp was the best team yesterday, because they acted like a team. good teamplay etc. made us strong. we didnt care about "players" like you do. everyone had their job, and everyone did it great. the reason why hellblade couldnt play is because he is an offensive player too, and we were already playing with 5 offensive players with psyko and me in defence (and obli), though we are normally both offensive players too. still i wont force anyone in a good playing team to sit out.
:and to you legit, please stop your whining and complaining all the time. that prejudiced whining of you is goin on my nerves. if you loose you loose, then stand to it. maybe you will win next time again, who knows. but stop that prejeduce stuff like: oh sp used holes, they certainly did that on purpurse. oh k3nny said he got bored that round, in that case he certainly thought the whole ladle was boring ?!? if you dont get it dude, go and watch the replay of that round, maybe in 10 years you will understand it when ur mature enough.

;'''Rico'''
:Funny that no-one has replied to my comment about the purposeful distractions. Of course it doesn't matter, as all of you would deny it anyway.

:Anyway, grats, even though winzoning is the lamest way to win ever, just an unparallelled level of chicken-ness. And ok, holing is fine, but when its like 5 on 1 and someone holes on purpose, thats annoying. As a defender, I have to deal with it all the time.

:Thats my piece, any comments about the purposeful distractions would be much appreciated. Thanks

;PsYkO
:How about a "congratz"?

;madmax
:First of all, congratz. I pretty much know nothing more about what happened so...
:The main thing I see is that always playing a knockout competition is not a good thing. It gets too... usual. I think some kind of championship competition and making the ladles more spaced (two/threee months maybe more?) would be a nice idea.
:I think in a knockout system it sure proves who was the best team then, but hey, what if a team who lost one game would win against all other teams? What if they were having a bad day? Having a championship (point based) would be IMHO a good idea. Perhaps that whole thought of "Kings Of the Grid"... After all, theres already a domain :)
:Also, it would benefit teams that consistently make good games, not only "that day" with "that conditions" with "..."
;Speed
Legit will you ever stop complaining and whining o they holed o they did this o is that a 2 yr old i hear talking legit because it sures sounds like one...
Legit also who are you to say people suck whenever i see you in a game its lag killed me omg i just slipped or someother bs excuse i have never seen you once do a spectacular move to win a match, now you slag of redice out of oops is that because they rejected you when you tryed joining them hmmm i wonder.
Save your complaints for people who care and btw when your good then i think you may have a leg to stand on atm you got a damn toothbrush.

;Rico
:Read my post before psyko, i did say grats ;)

;Omega
ROFL TUI
The first round we won where it was a 4 on 2. 1 attacker died and made a hole and the other attackers didnt go through. But instead waited till they had dumped the sweeper into his won def, and then went through that hole, you where even then calling us holers etc. You guys where making excuses every round.......

Durka 76-70 so what, whose to say you would have won. Statistically accounting for the match ending 3-1, you would have lost. I remember the 2 ladles ago the 5th which TM won i remember final match we were down 70-92 and we still won, so saying we would have easily won etc is nonsense as anything can happen. This reminds me of WPN etc, you guys are both like immature little children who cant take losing at all.
And @alex who was spamming you, tell me and ill sort em out.
:;Durka
::Are you kidding me? The winzone is a 20 point spin. 10 points for you guys which made it 86-70. It could have been 80-76. Then again, I would have liked to see you guys beat us that round considering the fact that thru 6 matches in the Ladle, I only got pwnd twice, & the 2 people that got by me from SP had already died. I'm not being cocky, but I always like a challenge and that would have been fun.
::Forgetting all of this, I know it was our fault, but look what kenny said above. They had 5 people attacking. Well, we only had 6 players total (again, this was our fault). So, you expect us to play agressive being 2 men down each round. That's similar to having like a 4 on 2 and having the team with 2 be on the attack. It makes no sense. When we played you guys in the last ladle and beat you guys, all you said was, well we didn't have Psyko or Whatup. Yes, Psyko & Whatup helped you a lot this ladle, but if we had brought 2 more players, then it would have gotten interesting and we would have been more on the attack. We look forward to rematching you guys, but with a full team this time. O, and how about the thought of playing in a US server? I'd like to see Viper, Cyclo, Kenny, Sasha, & Omega with pings like what I usually get :)
;k3nNy
:i think that round of the winzone stuff wasnt that match deciding. it was more important who was goin to win the round after that one. you could have equalized to about 90-86 or if it would have been the otherway round we could have gone from 80-76 to about 92-86. still, i hope we wont have that situation in future again. in case the zone doesnt get turned off, teams could tell before the matches each other they wont use it, then it should be np too.
:its true our field domination was partially that high because of the higher number of players. still the rules of the ladle arent very strict, so it should be no problem for a team to get it full actually. thats why i am against cutting players in the ladle if the other team hasnt enough. make sure you have 9-10 and it should be no problem.
:about that whatup and psyko & last ladle stuff. we didnt loose the last ladle because they werent here. we lost it because the organisation was bad & the setup was totally wrong. this ladle we played the semis against x. and they were strong i can tell u. they filled their team with players like pavelo. psyko didnt even play yet & whatup took cyclos place because he didnt show up either. in case whatup also wouldnt have been there we still had a great center attacker in hellblade. so, we won it 2-0 then. then to the finals: psyko got a spot in the team & got defender. but as we had 5 attackers and your team was (forced) playing defensive, we didnt have had much to do back there. so psyko wasnt very much involved. so i can tell u: we didnt win because whatup was playing & later psyko too, but because the teamplay etc. was great. thats far more important. i dont c team somethingsomething win because of 1 or 2 players either. they won because they were a great team. and i also dont c pings deciding the matches. btw those 2 players who made the difference in your opinion were "highpingers" from us too. :)
:well i look forward to the next ladle & playing against tui again. i hope in a balanced 8 vs 8 and on either zmans or wrtl, just simply because those 2 servers are the ones who dont go nuts when there are 20+ players on it :) (16 playing + spec & exchange players).

;Legit
: Oh kenny dont give me that bs that i didnt see what was goin on, i was in spectator mode the whole time watching around. Im not even in the tui match so what are you sayin i loose sum i loose sum? Kno whats going on first before you open that little minded mouth of yours. And as for speed, you obviously dont play fortress much as looking at how you play or know how i play. And as to what durka says is 100% tru and woudl be even be a harder match vs them if it were in a US server. Congrats to TUI on doin what ya did. Theres the congrats from me.

;PsYkO
: Thx max and rico

;k3nNy
: i think you played for tm legit? and i think tm lost the semis? btw i didnt open my mouth 1 single time while i was writing this. i can imagine you writing with your mouth wide open though xD. well back to the topic: as long as there is no us server which doesnt go nuts with 20+ players, there will no finals be played there i think. i c no reason to do that. same for 2020 server, that one goes nuts too with too many players, well the finals arent played there either are they. i can remember the finals of the 5th ladle, which even were moved after start from 2020 to zmans? btw the ping doesnt make a that huge difference as you guys acting it does.

EDIT
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~ z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
who spammed you

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
like everyone

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
i cant remember exactly, not all were pm messages

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
but there was like ur teamspeak, which wasnt in /team going down my page

z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
so
z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
we were talking

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
yea but u could have done it in /team like we did

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
in particular when theres still ppl playing

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
anyway its no big deal, just if we play you again and i get it ill just silence ua ll

== Previous Feedback ==

*[[Ladle-1/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-2/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-3/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-4/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-5/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-6/Feedback]]

== Previous Results ==
Sixth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-09T03:59:19Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

{{Ladle-7}}

Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again... We have to discuss stuff so that decisions made...

== Feedback for the Seventh Ladle ==
;Legit
: For starters, that was the worst ladle ive ever played. We organized a team and then when we played all positions etc... were all fucked up and hyphy i asked him to lay off def cus hes always too close and he still does it and fucked def once again. And as for redice little oops noob tking our whole team, at least 5 players in one round! And was unfair for that and also because the admin wasnt very good at locking a server cause some noob joined our team and fucked our whole team up as well. all this i will probably not play for TM anymore. And as for the finals was pretty good match to watch but tui was definantly the better team as watching how SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone. It was also funny when SP members would tell tui people to stfu and talk shit to them when they won but was also funny when pysko got all mad when someone got in his def and said it was a bullshit win for tui, next ladle should be handled better then this one.

;2020
: I forgot I was meant to be harsher with team entry. Most of us gathered and got the team organised. Then we started our game again TuI, and hyph refused to stay in midfield and got involved with def. I tried to tighten us up as a team, and for the first time issued a threat... which didn't go well with some members of the team who weren't aware of the havoc at the back. We lost the first match. And in the second, new players entered the server, a player using a familiar team name team-killed, and wrtl was constantly asked to admin the game -- and he was our defender! I didn't get into any kind of groove, played like a noob. What a mess.
:No idea what to do. I try to make it as clear as possible on the challenge board, and people seem confused about when it starts etc. I canjust about handle that, but not try to organise a team as well. I just want to play in a good game!!!!!!!!
;[[User:Durka|Durka]]
:The organization was a bit spectacle this time because of the games being delayed by 45 minutes. Otherwise everything went smoothly.

:About the finals, I didn't really care that it was 6 on 8 and they had a 2 man advantage, but what really pissed me off, was that it was 1-1 and in the 3rd match while the score was 76-70 their lead, the winzone popped up. We even had a one man advantage I belive at that point. They took the winzone and that boosted the score to 86-70. We could have easily won that match. Then, to top it off, they holed me (I was def) and went in and got the zone (using their 2 man advantage made it quite impossible to stop them while in the zone). Them winning that match completely turns around the entire finals. Instead of being 2-1 us, its 2-1 them. Then, in the 4th match, it was definately getting close, and it was 96-88 in the final round, and for the 10th time in the finals, I got holed by ~*SP*~ and they took the match.

:My point I'm trying to make is that:
:*There should be no winzone what so ever
:*I know we've talked about this before, but as long as a team gets at least 5 or 6 players there, the other team should at least cut 1 person. I'm fine with a one-man advantage & I'm also fine with a two-man advantage, or even 3, but if they use those extra men to hole the defense 10 times throughout 4 matches, then that (in my mind) is a bit unfair.

;'''Rico'''
:I dont mind doing it in a reg game, but in a serious tourney, when I'm trying to def against 4 attackers, I dont take kindly to the rest of the opposing team spamming me with messages to put me off. I'd have ignored them, but when theres so much spam it takes up half your screen and you have to play with only 10 fps anyway, it kinda pissed me off.

:Not that I was playing well anyway as it happens, but when I'm subject to "omg, our def sucks, alex you made us lose" etc etc criticism from my OWN TEAM because I was being distracted multiple ways... I do happen to get annoyed.

:Whatever, I'll still be taking part in some events in the future. Just remind me to silence the WHOLE of the opposition.

;AshitakA
:I just want to admit that it wasn’t redice, who played at the end. He abused his name like 2020 already said. What a bummer! He hadn’t the courage to make it with his own name. Anyway, for the next ladle I want to mention the idea to let teams also play for the 3rd and 4th or 5th and 6th place. It wouldn’t take much more time, because they play at the same time as the final would be. At the moment there are enough fort server online to realise this idea. Maybe you can include it into the ladle system.

;k3nNy
:Sp had a good setup, a good team with good team organisation. i think it is sad that no one here can gratulate sp for winning the ladle but instead some of you are searching for excuses why sp shouldnt have won the ladle. first: legit. hey dude, you say sp wasnt good as tui? i think thats kinda odd when you watch the field domination sp had during the finals. sp played with 2-3 defensive players and they didnt have much to do. sp was playing with 5 offensive players. so if you count those 5 offensive players + the defensive tui players you get quite much players dont u? so isnt it then a logical outcome that there is a quite high percentage for the defence of being holed by a dying player? so legit, tell me 1 person who wouldnt use a hole in the finals of the ladle. "SP had to win by holing and getting the winzone" --> this sounds for me that u accuse sp for holling on purpuse, which wasnt at all.
:well then about the winzone... first of all: as always i think it should be disabled too.
:then to the situation: durka, it was a 2 on 2 situation, 1 sp attacking against 2 doubledefending tuis (which made it impossible for the attacker to do sth), 1 sp staying in the back in case the attacker dies. how long did that situation last? how long could it have been lasting. well i was the one in the back, probably grinding myself for the 30st time in a row, waiting for sth to happen. first i thought aw dam winzone wth are you doin here. then i thought what the heck. so i think the first time i took a winzone because i was gettin that bored back in there! i just wanted that round to be over, i didnt care if tui would have taken it.
:oh and back to legit again: sp members well telling tui members to shut up because they were whining non stop. its a ladle final, so please be a man, play it and loose it or win it. congratulations sps!
:btw. exept i think the winzone should be disabled by default, i think this ladle was fine as usual.

;Legit
:LoL kenny, fine speech but TUI is definantly were better players. Just by knowing some of the members in tui and i dont even know most of them and i knew all SP that were playing TUI has definantly better team. Who did you have? Pysko and Sasha and uhh who else...? LoL anyways, if you were so bored of the ladle match and wanted to get the winzone then why the fuck are you playing in the ladle if its boring?!?! You had a player HellBlade who didnt even get to play and wanted to and you sat there being bored playin it when someone else in your clan could had actually enjoyed it? Your excuses are lame and you know you were afraid sp was going to loose cause TUI was a better team that why you really got the winzone.

;fr34ky
:LoL Legit, nice offenses but SP just won with all allowed methods, using no cheats. Holes were allowed, so we used them...a Winzone was there too, k3nNy used it and i agree with him! At first...it's really boring back there, and you know why it was boring? - No, not because Ladle is so boring, it was because no TuI attacked us...and why didnt they attack us? Hmmm, i think you know the answer. Oh and k3nNy had no chance to see any TuI not using the winzone...so he couldnt know TuI didnt want to use it. Congratulations Speeders, nice Ladle for us and certainly many other Players (except you Legit :->)
:greets, fr34ky

;k3nNy
:you must have been in another match legit, because i didnt have one single time the feeling tui was going to win. they had a good comeback to 1-1 but that was it. sp was the best team yesterday, because they acted like a team. good teamplay etc. made us strong. we didnt care about "players" like you do. everyone had their job, and everyone did it great. the reason why hellblade couldnt play is because he is an offensive player too, and we were already playing with 5 offensive players with psyko and me in defence (and obli), though we are normally both offensive players too. still i wont force anyone in a good playing team to sit out.
:and to you legit, please stop your whining and complaining all the time. that prejudiced whining of you is goin on my nerves. if you loose you loose, then stand to it. maybe you will win next time again, who knows. but stop that prejeduce stuff like: oh sp used holes, they certainly did that on purpurse. oh k3nny said he got bored that round, in that case he certainly thought the whole ladle was boring ?!? if you dont get it dude, go and watch the replay of that round, maybe in 10 years you will understand it when ur mature enough.

;'''Rico'''
:Funny that no-one has replied to my comment about the purposeful distractions. Of course it doesn't matter, as all of you would deny it anyway.

:Anyway, grats, even though winzoning is the lamest way to win ever, just an unparallelled level of chicken-ness. And ok, holing is fine, but when its like 5 on 1 and someone holes on purpose, thats annoying. As a defender, I have to deal with it all the time.

:Thats my piece, any comments about the purposeful distractions would be much appreciated. Thanks

;PsYkO
:How about a "congratz"?

;madmax
:First of all, congratz. I pretty much know nothing more about what happened so...
:The main thing I see is that always playing a knockout competition is not a good thing. It gets too... usual. I think some kind of championship competition and making the ladles more spaced (two/threee months maybe more?) would be a nice idea.
:I think in a knockout system it sure proves who was the best team then, but hey, what if a team who lost one game would win against all other teams? What if they were having a bad day? Having a championship (point based) would be IMHO a good idea. Perhaps that whole thought of "Kings Of the Grid"... After all, theres already a domain :)
:Also, it would benefit teams that consistently make good games, not only "that day" with "that conditions" with "..."
;Speed
Legit will you ever stop complaining and whining o they holed o they did this o is that a 2 yr old i hear talking legit because it sures sounds like one...
Legit also who are you to say people suck whenever i see you in a game its lag killed me omg i just slipped or someother bs excuse i have never seen you once do a spectacular move to win a match, now you slag of redice out of oops is that because they rejected you when you tryed joining them hmmm i wonder.
Save your complaints for people who care and btw when your good then i think you may have a leg to stand on atm you got a damn toothbrush.

;Rico
:Read my post before psyko, i did say grats ;)

;Omega
ROFL TUI
The first round we won where it was a 4 on 2. 1 attacker died and made a hole and the other attackers didnt go through. But instead waited till they had dumped the sweeper into his won def, and then went through that hole, you where even then calling us holers etc. You guys where making excuses every round.......

Durka 76-70 so what, whose to say you would have won. Statistically accounting for the match ending 3-1, you would have lost. I remember the 2 ladles ago the 5th which TM won i remember final match we were down 70-92 and we still won, so saying we would have easily won etc is nonsense as anything can happen. This reminds me of WPN etc, you guys are both like immature little children who cant take losing at all.
:;Durka
::Are you kidding me? The winzone is a 20 point spin. 10 points for you guys which made it 86-70. It could have been 80-76. Then again, I would have liked to see you guys beat us that round considering the fact that thru 6 matches in the Ladle, I only got pwnd twice, & the 2 people that got by me from SP had already died. I'm not being cocky, but I always like a challenge and that would have been fun.
::Forgetting all of this, I know it was our fault, but look what kenny said above. They had 5 people attacking. Well, we only had 6 players total (again, this was our fault). So, you expect us to play agressive being 2 men down each round. That's similar to having like a 4 on 2 and having the team with 2 be on the attack. It makes no sense. When we played you guys in the last ladle and beat you guys, all you said was, well we didn't have Psyko or Whatup. Yes, Psyko & Whatup helped you a lot this ladle, but if we had brought 2 more players, then it would have gotten interesting and we would have been more on the attack. We look forward to rematching you guys, but with a full team this time. O, and how about the thought of playing in a US server? I'd like to see Viper, Cyclo, Kenny, Sasha, & Omega with pings like what I usually get :)
;k3nNy
:i think that round of the winzone stuff wasnt that match deciding. it was more important who was goin to win the round after that one. you could have equalized to about 90-86 or if it would have been the otherway round we could have gone from 80-76 to about 92-86. still, i hope we wont have that situation in future again. in case the zone doesnt get turned off, teams could tell before the matches each other they wont use it, then it should be np too.
:its true our field domination was partially that high because of the higher number of players. still the rules of the ladle arent very strict, so it should be no problem for a team to get it full actually. thats why i am against cutting players in the ladle if the other team hasnt enough. make sure you have 9-10 and it should be no problem.
:about that whatup and psyko & last ladle stuff. we didnt loose the last ladle because they werent here. we lost it because the organisation was bad & the setup was totally wrong. this ladle we played the semis against x. and they were strong i can tell u. they filled their team with players like pavelo. psyko didnt even play yet & whatup took cyclos place because he didnt show up either. in case whatup also wouldnt have been there we still had a great center attacker in hellblade. so, we won it 2-0 then. then to the finals: psyko got a spot in the team & got defender. but as we had 5 attackers and your team was (forced) playing defensive, we didnt have had much to do back there. so psyko wasnt very much involved. so i can tell u: we didnt win because whatup was playing & later psyko too, but because the teamplay etc. was great. thats far more important. i dont c team somethingsomething win because of 1 or 2 players either. they won because they were a great team. and i also dont c pings deciding the matches. btw those 2 players who made the difference in your opinion were "highpingers" from us too. :)
:well i look forward to the next ladle & playing against tui again. i hope in a balanced 8 vs 8 and on either zmans or wrtl, just simply because those 2 servers are the ones who dont go nuts when there are 20+ players on it :) (16 playing + spec & exchange players).

And @alex who was spamming you, tell me and ill sort em out.
EDIT

;Legit
: Oh kenny dont give me that bs that i didnt see what was goin on, i was in spectator mode the whole time watching around. Im not even in the tui match so what are you sayin i loose sum i loose sum? Kno whats going on first before you open that little minded mouth of yours. And as for speed, you obviously dont play fortress much as looking at how you play or know how i play. And as to what durka says is 100% tru and woudl be even be a harder match vs them if it were in a US server. Congrats to TUI on doin what ya did. Theres the congrats from me.
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~ z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
who spammed you

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
like everyone

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
i cant remember exactly, not all were pm messages

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
but there was like ur teamspeak, which wasnt in /team going down my page

z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
so
z3$h~ GZ Speederz says:
we were talking

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
yea but u could have done it in /team like we did

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
in particular when theres still ppl playing

- - [ т c s ] - - Heavily medicated for your safety says:
anyway its no big deal, just if we play you again and i get it ill just silence ua ll

== Previous Feedback ==

*[[Ladle-1/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-2/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-3/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-4/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-5/Feedback]]
*[[Ladle-6/Feedback]]

== Previous Results ==
Sixth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

Fifth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | WS || rowspan="2" | bye
| rowspan="4" | WS || rowspan="4" | 2
| rowspan="8" | team TM
|-
|team 2 || N/A
|-
|team 3 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | PKC || rowspan="2" | n/s
|-
|team 4 || N/A
|-
|team 5 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TM || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | TM || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || N/A
|-
|team 7 || N/A
| rowspan="2" | TuI || rowspan="2" | 1
|-
|team 8 || N/A
|}

Fourth Ladle:
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|WPN || 2
| rowspan="2" | wpn || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | ho || rowspan="4" | 0
| rowspan="8" | proNoobz
|-
|tm || 0
|-
|none || N/A
| rowspan="2" | ho || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|ho || '''bye'''
|-
|st || 2
| rowspan="2" | st || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | pN || rowspan="4" | 2
|-
|ws || 0
|-
|pN || bye
| rowspan="2" | pN || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
|TiP || n/s
|}

Third Ladle:

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-08T16:58:25Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-08T16:57:40Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-08T14:27:10Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-08T13:20:47Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

Ladle Feedback

2007-01-08T13:17:51Z

213.47.177.62: /* Feedback for the Seventh Ladle */

Ladle-7/Challenge Board

2007-01-06T00:23:44Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-7}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 7th January. Place the name of your team on the appropriate Challenge Board for the server settings and game-style you wish to play in. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am GMT on the day of the event Sunday 7th January.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
----
* Team 3 is... '''[http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-]''' (Rico, $ubzero ,FoFo, Skip, W4z3r, Sticky, Inf)
* Team 4 is... '''[http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~]''' (PsYkO (C), Oblivion, freak, viper, omega, demon, cyclo, sasha, k3nNy)
----
* Team 5 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^tm (one, Legit, diggin, G5, Sublimal.FreQ, Hyphy Leopard, chat.bot, wrtl)
* Team 6 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Shrooms, Ganja, Çråçk, X, GHß, LacrYmosa, f, ßud, ketamine, DJ Tanner, pUrPlE kUsH) <-- More to come
----
* Team 7 is...
* Team 8 is...

;Quarter Finals 7.30pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 3 ( [http://www.xclan.net.tf -¦x¦-] ) challenges Team 4 ( [http://www.sp-clan.com ~*SP*~] )on ¦x¦ Fortress
:Team 5 ( [[Tronic Monkeys]] ) challenges Team 6 ( [http://tui.owns.it TuI] ) on 2020 team challenge or Wildwest - Fortress
:Team 7 challenges Team 8 on fortress cafe

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Wildwest - Fortress (bugfarm) or fortress cafe

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress or fortress cafe

Provisional brackets will be set out on the day of the match, and the following table will be filled in throughout the tournament. Do not write on the following board; feel free to jockey for position in the above team list.
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 1/2 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 1/2/3/4 || rowspan="4" | ?
| rowspan="8" | team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8
|-
|team 2 || ?
|-
|team 3 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 3/4 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 4 || ?
|-
|team 5 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 5/6 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 5/6/7/8 || rowspan="4" | ?
|-
|team 6 || ?
|-
|team 7 || ?
| rowspan="2" | Tteam 7/8 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 8 || ?
|}

== Speeders and Crazy Tronners Challenge Board ==

A similar tournament can be run for Speeders and for Crazy Tronners Fortress, to be run on the same day and at the same times. It just needs to be set up by players...

{{Ladle-7}}

Ladle-6/Challenge Board

2006-12-04T00:16:25Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-6}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd December. Place the name of your team on the appropriate Challenge Board for the server settings and game-style you wish to play in. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am GMT on the day of the event Sunday 3rd December.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Çråçk, Rico, Opium, PuRpLe KuSh, LacrYmosa {aka AS}, Bud, GHß, ketamine, X
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] (Hay-Lin, redice, Plato, AshitakA, rain, pixel (maybe), freako (maybe))
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (Sasha, joda, psyko, Speed, k3nNy, Omega, Demon, Oblivion)
----
* Team 5 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^tm (one, Legit, wrtl, canada, Hyphy Leopard, Sticky)
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Team somethingsomething]] (MaZuffeR, pavelo, Pez, eggcozy, newbie, Infamous, nemostultae (maybe)) (invite only)
* Team 8 is...

'''NOTICE: there is only one quarter-final which starts at 7.30pm GMT; two semi-finals will follow at 8.15pm GMT and the final at 9pm GMT.'''

;Quarter Finals 7.30pm GMT
:[http://tui.owns.it TuI] challenges [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] on Z-man's Tournament Fortress

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Wildwest - Fortress or wrtlprnft

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress or wrtlprnft's server

THE PROVISIONAL BRACKETS ARE AS FOLLOWS:

{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
| [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || 2
| rowspan="2" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="2" | 2
| rowspan="4" | [http://tui.owns.it TuI] || rowspan="4" | 1
| rowspan="8" | [[Team somethingsomething]]
|-
| [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] || 0
|-
|team 3 || n/a
| rowspan="2" | [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || rowspan="2" | 0
|-
| [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || bye
|-
| [[Tronic Monkeys]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Tronic Monkeys]] || rowspan="2" | 0
| rowspan="4" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="4" | 3
|-
|team 6 || n/a
|-
| [[Team somethingsomething]] || bye
| rowspan="2" | [[Team somethingsomething]] || rowspan="2" | 2
|-
| team 8 || n/a
|}

== Wild-Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on crazy tronners wild fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on crazy tronners wild fortress

== Speeders Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Speeders
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Speeders

{{Ladle-6}}

Ladle-6/Challenge Board

2006-11-28T08:32:41Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-6}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd December. Place the name of your team on the appropriate Challenge Board for the server settings and game-style you wish to play in. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am GMT on the day of the event Sunday 3rd December.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Çråçk, Rico, Opium, PuRpLe KuSh, Bud, ketamine, psychedelic {maybe}, {possibly 4 others as well})
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] (Hay-Lin, redice, Plato, AshitakA, Manta, rain, pixel (maybe), freako (maybe))
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (Sasha, joda, psyko, Speed, k3nNy, Omega, Demon, Oblivion)
----
* Team 5 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^tm (one, Legit, wrtl, canada)
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Team somethingsomething]] (MaZuffeR, pavelo, Pez, eggcozy, newbie, Infamous, nemostultae (maybe)) (invite only)
* Team 8 is...

;Quarter Finals 7.30pm GMT
:[http://tui.owns.it TuI] challenges [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 3 challenges [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] on AST Fortress
:[[Tronic Monkeys]] challenges Team 6 on 2020 team challenge
:[[Team somethingsomething]] challenges Team 8 on wrtlprnft's fortress or Wildwest - Fortress

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Wildwest - Fortress or wrtlprnft

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress or wrtlprnft's server

Provisional brackets will be set out on the day of the match, and the following table will be filled in throughout the tournament. '''Do not write on the following board; feel free to jockey for position in the above team list'''.
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 1/2 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 1/2/3/4 || rowspan="4" | ?
| rowspan="8" | team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8
|-
|team 2 || ?
|-
|team 3 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 3/4 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 4 || ?
|-
|team 5 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 5/6 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 5/6/7/8 || rowspan="4" | ?
|-
|team 6 || ?
|-
|team 7 || ?
| rowspan="2" | Tteam 7/8 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 8 || ?
|}

== Wild-Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on crazy tronners wild fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on crazy tronners wild fortress

== Speeders Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Speeders
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Speeders

{{Ladle-6}}

Ladle-6/Challenge Board

2006-11-28T08:32:25Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-6}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd December. Place the name of your team on the appropriate Challenge Board for the server settings and game-style you wish to play in. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am GMT on the day of the event Sunday 3rd December.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Çråçk, Rico, Opium, PuRpLe KuSh, Bud, ketamine, psychedelic {maybe}, {possibly 4 others as well})
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] (Hay-Lin, redice, Plato, AshitakA, Manta, rain, pixel (maybe), freako (maybe))
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (Sasha, joda, psyko, Speed, k3nNy, Omega, Demon, Oblivion)
----
* Team 5 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^tm (one, Legit, wrtl, canada)
* Team 6 is...
----
* Team 7 is... [[Team somethingsomething]] (MaZuffeR, pavelo, Pez, eggcozy, newbie, Infamous, nemostultae (maybe)) (invite only)
* Team 8 is...

;Quarter Finals 7.30pm GMT
:[http://tui.owns.it TuI] challenges [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 3 challenges [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] on AST Fortress
:[[Tronic Monkeys]] challenges team 6 on 2020 team challenge
:[[Team somethingsomething]] challenges Team 8 on wrtlprnft's fortress or Wildwest - Fortress

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Wildwest - Fortress or wrtlprnft

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress or wrtlprnft's server

Provisional brackets will be set out on the day of the match, and the following table will be filled in throughout the tournament. '''Do not write on the following board; feel free to jockey for position in the above team list'''.
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|team 1 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 1/2 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 1/2/3/4 || rowspan="4" | ?
| rowspan="8" | team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8
|-
|team 2 || ?
|-
|team 3 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 3/4 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 4 || ?
|-
|team 5 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 5/6 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 5/6/7/8 || rowspan="4" | ?
|-
|team 6 || ?
|-
|team 7 || ?
| rowspan="2" | Tteam 7/8 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 8 || ?
|}

== Wild-Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on crazy tronners wild fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on crazy tronners wild fortress

== Speeders Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Speeders
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Speeders

{{Ladle-6}}

Ladle-6/Challenge Board

2006-11-24T17:18:27Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-6}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd December. Place the name of your team on the appropriate Challenge Board for the server settings and game-style you wish to play in. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am GMT on the day of the event Sunday 3rd December.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Çråçk, Rico [if thats ok with you guys])
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] (Hay-Lin, redice, Plato, AshitakA, Manta, rain)
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (Sasha, joda, psyko, Speed, k3nNy, Omega, Demon, Oblivion)
----
* Team 5 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^tm (one, Legit, wrtl)
* Team 6 is... [[Wraith Squadron]] (WS) (JJbean, Blaze, Kama, Upa, Dook, Jud, Goody)
----
* Team 7 is... [[Team somethingsomething]] (MaZuffeR, pavelo, Pez, eggcozy) (invite only)
* Team 8 is...

;Quarter Finals 7.30pm GMT
:Team 1 ([http://tui.owns.it TuI]) challenges Team 2 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 ([http://www.sp-clan.com SP]) on AST Fortress
:Team 5 challenges Team 6 on 2020 team challenge
:Team 7 challenges Team 8 on wrtlprnft's fortress or Wildwest - Fortress

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Wildwest - Fortress (bugfarm)r or wrtlprnft

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress or wrtlprnft's server

Provisional brackets will be set out on the day of the match, and the following table will be filled in throughout the tournament. Do not write on the following board; feel free to jockey for position in the above team list.
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|[http://tui.owns.it TuI] || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 1/2 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 1/2/3/4 || rowspan="4" | ?
| rowspan="8" | team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8
|-
|team 2 || ?
|-
|team 3 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 3/4 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|[http://www.sp-clan.com SP] || ?
|-
|team 5 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 5/6 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 5/6/7/8 || rowspan="4" | ?
|-
|team 6 || ?
|-
|team 7 || ?
| rowspan="2" | Tteam 7/8 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 8 || ?
|}

== Wild-Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on crazy tronners wild fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on crazy tronners wild fortress

== Speeders Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Speeders
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Speeders

{{Ladle-6}}

Ladle-6/Challenge Board

2006-11-24T17:17:23Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-6}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd December. Place the name of your team on the appropriate Challenge Board for the server settings and game-style you wish to play in. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am GMT on the day of the event Sunday 3rd December.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Çråçk, Rico [if thats ok with you guys])
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] (Hay-Lin, redice, Plato, AshitakA, Manta, rain)
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (Sasha, joda, psyko, Speed, k3nNy, Omega, Demon, Oblivion)
----
* Team 5 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^tm (one, Legit, wrtl)
* Team 6 is... [[Wraith Squadron]] (WS) (JJbean, Blaze, Kama, Upa, Dook, Jud, Goody)
----
* Team 7 is... [[Team somethingsomething]] (MaZuffeR, pavelo, Pez, eggcozy) (invite only)
* Team 8 is...

;Quarter Finals 7.30pm GMT
:Team 1 ([http://tui.owns.it TuI]) challenges Team 2 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 ([http://www.sp-clan.com SP]) on AST Fortress
:Team 5 challenges Team 6 on 2020 team challenge
:Team 7 challenges Team 8 on wrtlprnft's fortress or Wildwest - Fortress

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Wildwest - Fortress (bugfarm)r or wrtlprnft

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress or wrtlprnft's server

Provisional brackets will be set out on the day of the match, and the following table will be filled in throughout the tournament. Do not write on the following board; feel free to jockey for position in the above team list.
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|[http://tui.owns.it TuI] || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 1/2 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 1/2/3/4 || rowspan="4" | ?
| rowspan="8" | team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8
|-
|team 2 || ?
|-
|team 3 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 3/4 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 4 || ?
|-
|team 5 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 5/6 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 5/6/7/8 || rowspan="4" | ?
|-
|team 6 || ?
|-
|team 7 || ?
| rowspan="2" | Tteam 7/8 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 8 || ?
|}

== Wild-Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on crazy tronners wild fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on crazy tronners wild fortress

== Speeders Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Speeders
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Speeders

{{Ladle-6}}

Ladle-6/Challenge Board

2006-11-24T17:07:00Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-6}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd December. Place the name of your team on the appropriate Challenge Board for the server settings and game-style you wish to play in. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am GMT on the day of the event Sunday 3rd December.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Çråçk, Rico [if thats ok with you guys])
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] (Hay-Lin, redice, Plato, AshitakA, Manta, rain)
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (Sasha, joda, psyko, Speed, k3nNy, Omega, Demon)
----
* Team 5 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^tm (one, Legit, wrtl)
* Team 6 is... [[Wraith Squadron]] (WS) (JJbean, Blaze, Kama, Upa, Dook, Jud, Goody)
----
* Team 7 is... [[Team somethingsomething]] (MaZuffeR, pavelo, Pez, eggcozy) (invite only)
* Team 8 is...

;Quarter Finals 7.30pm GMT
:Team 1 ([http://tui.owns.it TuI]) challenges Team 2 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on AST Fortress
:Team 5 challenges Team 6 on 2020 team challenge
:Team 7 challenges Team 8 on wrtlprnft's fortress or Wildwest - Fortress

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Wildwest - Fortress (bugfarm)r or wrtlprnft

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress or wrtlprnft's server

Provisional brackets will be set out on the day of the match, and the following table will be filled in throughout the tournament. Do not write on the following board; feel free to jockey for position in the above team list.
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|[http://tui.owns.it TuI] || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 1/2 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 1/2/3/4 || rowspan="4" | ?
| rowspan="8" | team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8
|-
|team 2 || ?
|-
|team 3 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 3/4 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 4 || ?
|-
|team 5 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 5/6 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 5/6/7/8 || rowspan="4" | ?
|-
|team 6 || ?
|-
|team 7 || ?
| rowspan="2" | Tteam 7/8 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 8 || ?
|}

== Wild-Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on crazy tronners wild fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on crazy tronners wild fortress

== Speeders Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Speeders
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Speeders

{{Ladle-6}}

Ladle-6/Challenge Board

2006-11-24T16:55:45Z

213.47.177.62: /* Fortress Challenge Board */

{{Ladle-6}}

The Challenge Board is designed to make the pairing of teams easy for Sunday 3rd December. Place the name of your team on the appropriate Challenge Board for the server settings and game-style you wish to play in. You might wish to '''create a wiki page of for your team or place expected teammates in brackets on the Challenge Board.''' There may be a choice of servers to allow predominantly American teams an opportunity to play in a low-ping grid.

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:center"
! || UTC/GMT || PST || EST
|-
| '''Quarter Finals''' || 7:30pm || 11:30am || 2:30pm
|-
| '''Semi Finals''' || 8:15pm || 12:15am || 3:15pm
|-
| '''Finals''' || 9pm || 1pm || 4pm
|-
|}

All Challenge Boards will be locked at 0:00 am GMT on the day of the event Sunday 3rd December.

== Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is... [http://tui.owns.it TuI] (Çråçk, Rico [if thats ok with you guys])
* Team 2 is... [http://www.oops-clan.org/ °°ps] (Hay-Lin, redice, Plato, AshitakA, Manta, rain)
----
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is... [http://www.sp-clan.com SP] (Sasha, joda, psyko, Speed, k3nNy)
----
* Team 5 is... [[Tronic Monkeys]] ^tm (one, Legit, omega, wrtl)
* Team 6 is... [[Wraith Squadron]] (WS) (JJbean, Blaze, Kama, Upa, Dook, Jud, Goody)
----
* Team 7 is... [[Team somethingsomething]] (MaZuffeR, pavelo, Pez, eggcozy) (invite only)
* Team 8 is...

;Quarter Finals 7.30pm GMT
:Team 1 ([http://tui.owns.it TuI]) challenges Team 2 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on AST Fortress
:Team 5 challenges Team 6 on 2020 team challenge
:Team 7 challenges Team 8 on wrtlprnft's fortress or Wildwest - Fortress

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress
:Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Wildwest - Fortress (bugfarm)r or wrtlprnft

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man's Tournament Fortress or wrtlprnft's server

Provisional brackets will be set out on the day of the match, and the following table will be filled in throughout the tournament. Do not write on the following board; feel free to jockey for position in the above team list.
{| border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules="all" style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0; border:solid 1px black; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; empty-cells:show; text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" | Quarter Finals !! colspan="2" | Semi Finals !! colspan="2" | Final !! | Winner
|-
| colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 7:30 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 8:15 PM GMT || colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px double" | 9:00 PM GMT || style="border-bottom:3px double" |
|-
|[http://tui.owns.it TuI] || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 1/2 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 1/2/3/4 || rowspan="4" | ?
| rowspan="8" | team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8
|-
|team 2 || ?
|-
|team 3 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 3/4 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 4 || ?
|-
|team 5 || ?
| rowspan="2" | team 5/6 || rowspan="2" | ?
| rowspan="4" | team 5/6/7/8 || rowspan="4" | ?
|-
|team 6 || ?
|-
|team 7 || ?
| rowspan="2" | Tteam 7/8 || rowspan="2" | ?
|-
|team 8 || ?
|}

== Wild-Fortress Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on crazy tronners wild fortress
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on crazy tronners wild fortress

== Speeders Challenge Board ==

* Team 1 is...
* Team 2 is...
* Team 3 is...
* Team 4 is...

;Semi Finals 8.15pm GMT
:Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Speeders
:Team 3 challenges Team 4 on ?? server

;Finals 9pm GMT
:Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Speeders

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~SpeederS~

2006-11-14T20:15:57Z

213.47.177.62:

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Speeders love to play Armagetron Advanced and also have divisions playing Battlezone II, Runescape & many more.

The Speeders have been around since Armagetron first came onto the internet, and is the father of numerous other clans in armagetron. ~*SP*~ was first founded in Battlezone II by Theridiid (known as X3R) and Schnipp (known as Phantom). The armagetron division came shortly afterwards and is currently maintained by Psyko and Oblivion.

== Messages ==
*''Note: Keep your response one line while using one more <nowiki>:</nowiki> to indent than the message you reply to. Also add your signature at the end with <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. (signature is inserted once the page is saved)''
*you can field two teams perhaps.. in which case we need two captains... please check out the [[Challenge Room]] --[[User:2020|2020]] 13:56:32 17 June 2006 (CDT)
:*I'll tell the others (psyko and oblivion) --[[User:Joda|Joda]] 21:20, 20 June 2006 (CEST)
::*Hi joda :P --[[User:PsYkO|PsYkO]] ??:??, ?? ???? ???? (CEST)
:::* Psyko please use the structure mentioned in the Note ;) --[[User:Joda|Joda]] 23:09, 20 June 2006 (CEST)
*one week to go... captains need to be nominated and teams organised... the secret to success on the day is preparation... [[User:2020|2020]] 24 june
:*I'll check back on the forums --[[User:Joda|Joda]] 02:04, 25 June 2006 (CEST)
*this is it! today is the day! it might be a bit messy to start with especially if a team fields more than one team -- remember to assign a captain to each team and all the captains have to be present at 2020's T-room to decide on play-offs. We need some luck to get this off the ground! [[User:2020|2020]] 1st july

*The SP website sometimes can shut down by error, or server SQL crashes - but don't worry about it, it's usually fixed within a few days! -X3r

== Links ==
*[http://www.sp-clan.com http://www.sp-clan.com] - Speeder Homepage

~SpeederS~

2006-11-14T20:15:14Z

213.47.177.62: /* Links */

{{Ladle}}
Speeders love to play Armagetron Advanced and also have divisions playing Battlezone II, Counter Strike & Half Life 1/2 and Runescape.

The Speeders have been around since Armagetron first came onto the internet, and is the father of numerous other clans in armagetron. ~*SP*~ was first founded in Battlezone II by Theridiid (known as X3R) and Schnipp (known as Phantom). The armagetron division came shortly afterwards and is currently maintained by Psyko and Oblivion.

== Messages ==
*''Note: Keep your response one line while using one more <nowiki>:</nowiki> to indent than the message you reply to. Also add your signature at the end with <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. (signature is inserted once the page is saved)''
*you can field two teams perhaps.. in which case we need two captains... please check out the [[Challenge Room]] --[[User:2020|2020]] 13:56:32 17 June 2006 (CDT)
:*I'll tell the others (psyko and oblivion) --[[User:Joda|Joda]] 21:20, 20 June 2006 (CEST)
::*Hi joda :P --[[User:PsYkO|PsYkO]] ??:??, ?? ???? ???? (CEST)
:::* Psyko please use the structure mentioned in the Note ;) --[[User:Joda|Joda]] 23:09, 20 June 2006 (CEST)
*one week to go... captains need to be nominated and teams organised... the secret to success on the day is preparation... [[User:2020|2020]] 24 june
:*I'll check back on the forums --[[User:Joda|Joda]] 02:04, 25 June 2006 (CEST)
*this is it! today is the day! it might be a bit messy to start with especially if a team fields more than one team -- remember to assign a captain to each team and all the captains have to be present at 2020's T-room to decide on play-offs. We need some luck to get this off the ground! [[User:2020|2020]] 1st july

*The SP website sometimes can shut down by error, or server SQL crashes - but don't worry about it, it's usually fixed within a few days! -X3r

== Links ==
*[http://www.sp-clan.com http://www.sp-clan.com] - Speeder Homepage

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