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		<title>Ladle-12/Results</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.83.176.48: /* Feedback for the Twelfth Ladle */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle-12}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Write a report on your games, exciting play, team-tactics... and also include any feedback on how to improve the tournament!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Feedback for the Twelfth Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039; G5, Your other player zop wasnt even there when it started, it was 7 vs 7 and ur player never showed til the 2nd match. Thats besides the point u lost even worse when u had 8 vs 7 advantage in the end.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Negative:&#039;&#039;&#039; This whole tournament stinks. The guidelines clearly state that a team is 8 members. If you dont have 8 it is your problem. TM was not able to play with 8 players because the X chickens had only 7 players. Come on, we played 5 vs 8 before. Boo on you, X! --G5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* °°ps versus tui was nice. well, i really do not know how was the &amp;quot;talking behaviour&amp;quot; of tui, since i silenced them all at start (as i usually do in ladles), but the game was nice. they won 2-0, the first match was really close and well played by both teams, in second we lost our mojo and we lost quickly. surely °°ps needs to work on some things but im quite satisfied. i hope we could get the ladle one day. i have no complain. good games. :) [[rain|rain]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Rico ~ &#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
The organisation left a little to be desired I found, with posts on the forums and edits on the challenge board right up until the match. This led to confusion over who was playing when and where.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In our first match, we played against SP, which we agreed was to be a 7 vs 7. We won 2 quite close matches, both around 100-70, and advanced to the semis where we would play TM. We again won in 2 matches, playing well together as a unit and completely whitewashing the 2nd match around 100-20.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
@ G5 : Your team leader agreed to a 7v7, so please dont complain at us...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The final was against TuI who had beaten oops 45 minutes previously. They had plenty of time to take breaks and practise, yet a couple still insisted on delaying cos they needed a piss. Which was a little irritating but none the less, we pulled off from around a 92-80 defecit to win 100-98. We then promtly won the 2nd match around 100-70, starting to work together better in attack to pick off the sweepers. Halfway through the 2nd match, one TuI-er had to leave because of lag issues and another left and never returned. We were then playing with an advantage, but during match 3 Lackadaisical helped out and brainherpes rejoined, so they clawed back from around 80-50 only to lose 100-96.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Great matches everyone, now bring on the AFL ;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Rico: The organisation left a little to be desired I found, with posts on the forums and edits on the challenge board right up until the match. This led to confusion over who was playing when and where.&amp;quot; Organization was clear for everyone who joined #arma-ladle. I posted several times a detailed list of matches/time/place and edited as needed the challange board. unfortunately someone, psyko i think, at one point decided to edit the wiki without asking anybody. i had to re-edit it. next time be sure to have at least one representant player for each team in #arma-ladle channel. [[rain|rain]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Have to agree with rain here.  I did say a number of times what was happening and it was quite clear to me what was going on(because i was on irc). - Sticky&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*PsYkO  I don&#039;t know if anyone noticed, but I looked on the challenge board last night and I saw that the way that it was set up SP would go straight to the finals.  I then contacted 2020 and told him what I was doing, he agreed, and then I clarified it on aa.net.  I&#039;m sorry that others things got screwed up, it&#039;s kind of a double negative because if I had just went along with my business everyone would be complaining that SP was able to go straight to the finals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*No one can complain about that, it&#039;s not your fault all the other teams stupidly sign up on the same side of the table. --[[User:MaZuffeR|MaZuffeR]] 16:59, 3 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* In my eyes it was completely a mess today. It started after i got up and sb told me tm would play together with sp, so we have 4 teams in total. (The day before i told everyone we only play the finals, which are at 9pm) But ok, as i knew we had additionally 2 players of tm (2020 &amp;amp; pez @ that time) i managed easily to inform 6-7spers we will play at 8.15. So i got offline doin some other stuff and planned to be online at 7.30. well ok i got home earlier (luckily) and the first thing i heard: we play the quaters against x! Well then the shit began, i knew we were at least 2 players short and that there is a high risk, that a few will come too late. So freaky and i started to inform our ppl as far as we could. The match against x then was most of the time 6 vs 7 (i got no clue who the 7nt player in alex eyes is, but that doesnt matter). Luckily some spers showed up on random, and a few didnt make it at 7.30, because they didnt knew it was earlier.. So what i am trying to say with this boring long story is that the challenge board rly should be locked totally, at least 4-5 hours before the ladle. Well in addition to that mess came that ladle cafe had no admin and the settings were terrible: winzone, 16 players max, no shuffling up (that was really terrible, its hard to switch pos. around with shuffling up, it just gets a mess then), autojoin of players who joined the server,... Well ok im looking forward to the AFL and the next ladle season &amp;amp; gz to x. - k3nNy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Agreed, every ladle it seems there are administration problems.  I run SpeederS server right now, I would be glad to admin one of the servers for the next season if need be. - psicko&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Previous Winners ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-11/Results|Eleventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Fogies with Wheelchairs on Sunday 6th May&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-10/Results|Tenth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 1st April&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-9/Results|Ninth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] on Sunday 4th March&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-8/Results|Eighth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 4th February&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-7/Feedback|Seventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Speeders on Sunday 7th January&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-6/Feedback|Sixth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-5/Feedback|Fifth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Tronic Monkeys]] in a closely fought final on 5th November 2006&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-4/Feedback|Fourth Tronic Ladle]] was won by proN00bz on 1st October 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The First [[4 Team Fortress Tourney 1|4 Team Fortress Tournament (4TFT)]] was won by [http://crazy-tronners.com Crazy Tronners (CT)] on Sunday, September 17th, 2006&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-3/Feedback|Third Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 3rd September 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The First [[International_Tron_World_Cup|Tron World Cup]] took place in July and August 2006 and was won by the United Kingdom. Full scores of the matches are available on the [http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc/ Official TWC Site]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-2/Feedback|Second Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 29th August 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-1/Feedback|First Tronic Ladle]] was a fortress tournament with seven teams and was won by [[Ladle Winners|Shadow League]] on 1st July 2006. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[THE SPOON|Tronic Spoon]] was a fortress tournament of 87 players arranged into 8 and was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] in March 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:Ladle/Feedback}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:Ladle/Results}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Ladle-12/Results</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle-12/Results&amp;diff=18503"/>
		<updated>2007-06-04T02:23:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.83.176.48: /* Feedback for the Twelfth Ladle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle-12}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Write a report on your games, exciting play, team-tactics... and also include any feedback on how to improve the tournament!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Feedback for the Twelfth Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039; G5, Your other player zop wasnt even there when it started, it was 7 vs 7 and ur player never showed til the 2nd match. Thats besides the point u lost even worse when u had 8 vs 7 advantage in the end.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Negative:&#039;&#039;&#039; This whole tournament stinks. The guidelines clearly state that a team is 8 members. If you dont have 8 it is your problem. TM was not able to play with 8 players because the X chickens had only 7 players. Come on, we played 5 vs 8 before. Boo on you, X! --G5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* °°ps versus tui was nice. well, i really do not know how was the &amp;quot;talking behaviour&amp;quot; of tui, since i silenced them all at start (as i usually do in ladles), but the game was nice. they won 2-0, the first match was really close and well played by both teams, in second we lost our mojo and we lost quickly. surely °°ps needs to work on some things but im quite satisfied. i hope we could get the ladle one day. i have no complain. good games. :) [[rain|rain]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Rico ~ &#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
The organisation left a little to be desired I found, with posts on the forums and edits on the challenge board right up until the match. This led to confusion over who was playing when and where.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In our first match, we played against SP, which we agreed was to be a 7 vs 7. We won 2 quite close matches, both around 100-70, and advanced to the semis where we would play TM. We again won in 2 matches, playing well together as a unit and completely whitewashing the 2nd match around 100-20.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
@ G5 : Your team leader agreed to a 7v7, so please dont complain at us...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The final was against TuI who had beaten oops 45 minutes previously. They had plenty of time to take breaks and practise, yet a couple still insisted on delaying cos they needed a piss. Which was a little irritating but none the less, we pulled off from around a 92-80 defecit to win 100-98. We then promtly won the 2nd match around 100-70, starting to work together better in attack to pick off the sweepers. Halfway through the 2nd match, one TuI-er had to leave because of lag issues and another left and never returned. We were then playing with an advantage, but during match 3 Lackadaisical helped out and brainherpes rejoined, so they clawed back from around 80-50 only to lose 100-96.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Great matches everyone, now bring on the AFL ;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Rico: The organisation left a little to be desired I found, with posts on the forums and edits on the challenge board right up until the match. This led to confusion over who was playing when and where.&amp;quot; Organization was clear for everyone who joined #arma-ladle. I posted several times a detailed list of matches/time/place and edited as needed the challange board. unfortunately someone, psyko i think, at one point decided to edit the wiki without asking anybody. i had to re-edit it. next time be sure to have at least one representant player for each team in #arma-ladle channel. [[rain|rain]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Have to agree with rain here.  I did say a number of times what was happening and it was quite clear to me what was going on(because i was on irc). - Sticky&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*PsYkO  I don&#039;t know if anyone noticed, but I looked on the challenge board last night and I saw that the way that it was set up SP would go straight to the finals.  I then contacted 2020 and told him what I was doing, he agreed, and then I clarified it on aa.net.  I&#039;m sorry that others things got screwed up, it&#039;s kind of a double negative because if I had just went along with my business everyone would be complaining that SP was able to go straight to the finals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*No one can complain about that, it&#039;s not your fault all the other teams stupidly sign up on the same side of the table. --[[User:MaZuffeR|MaZuffeR]] 16:59, 3 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* In my eyes it was completely a mess today. It started after i got up and sb told me tm would play together with sp, so we have 4 teams in total. (The day before i told everyone we only play the finals, which are at 9pm) But ok, as i knew we had additionally 2 players of tm (2020 &amp;amp; pez @ that time) i managed easily to inform 6-7spers we will play at 8.15. So i got offline doin some other stuff and planned to be online at 7.30. well ok i got home earlier (luckily) and the first thing i heard: we play the quaters against x! Well then the shit began, i knew we were at least 2 players short and that there is a high risk, that a few will come too late. So freaky and i started to inform our ppl as far as we could. The match against x then was most of the time 6 vs 7 (i got no clue who the 7nt player in alex eyes is, but that doesnt matter). Luckily some spers showed up on random, and a few didnt make it at 7.30, because they didnt knew it was earlier.. So what i am trying to say with this boring long story is that the challenge board rly should be locked totally, at least 4-5 hours before the ladle. Well in addition to that mess came that ladle cafe had no admin and the settings were terrible: winzone, 16 players max, no shuffling up (that was really terrible, its hard to switch pos. around with shuffling up, it just gets a mess then), autojoin of players who joined the server,... Well ok im looking forward to the AFL and the next ladle season &amp;amp; gz to x. - k3nNy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Agreed, every ladle it seems there are administration problems.  I run SpeederS server right now, I would be glad to admin one of the servers for the next season if need be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Previous Winners ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-11/Results|Eleventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Fogies with Wheelchairs on Sunday 6th May&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-10/Results|Tenth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 1st April&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-9/Results|Ninth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] on Sunday 4th March&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-8/Results|Eighth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [http://tui.owns.it TuI ~ Tronners Under the Influence] on Sunday 4th February&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-7/Feedback|Seventh Tronic Ladle]] was won by Speeders on Sunday 7th January&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-6/Feedback|Sixth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Team somethingsomething]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-5/Feedback|Fifth Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Tronic Monkeys]] in a closely fought final on 5th November 2006&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-4/Feedback|Fourth Tronic Ladle]] was won by proN00bz on 1st October 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The First [[4 Team Fortress Tourney 1|4 Team Fortress Tournament (4TFT)]] was won by [http://crazy-tronners.com Crazy Tronners (CT)] on Sunday, September 17th, 2006&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-3/Feedback|Third Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 3rd September 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The First [[International_Tron_World_Cup|Tron World Cup]] took place in July and August 2006 and was won by the United Kingdom. Full scores of the matches are available on the [http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc/ Official TWC Site]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-2/Feedback|Second Tronic Ladle]] was won by [[Ladle Winners|Anarchic Wanderers]] on 29th August 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Ladle-1/Feedback|First Tronic Ladle]] was a fortress tournament with seven teams and was won by [[Ladle Winners|Shadow League]] on 1st July 2006. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[THE SPOON|Tronic Spoon]] was a fortress tournament of 87 players arranged into 8 and was won by [[Team somethingsomething]] in March 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:Ladle/Feedback}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{:Ladle/Results}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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