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		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14599</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
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		<updated>2006-08-27T02:01:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Offical WS servers:&#039;&#039;&#039; U.S.Fortress, Wild West - Fortress and Sumo&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Communication&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Team Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Can you attend? Please leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Goody ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-25 (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-29 (7pm PST 2am GMT)&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-30 (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Sep-1 (7pm PST 2am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-3  11:45am PST 6:45 GMT || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;During the ladle it might be a good idea to come early to warm up as matches start whether or not we are ready.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14598</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14598"/>
		<updated>2006-08-27T01:32:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Team Schedule */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Offical WS servers:&#039;&#039;&#039; U.S.Fortress, Wild West - Fortress and Sumo&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Communication&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Team Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Can you attend? Please leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Goody ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-25 (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-29 (7pm PST 2am GMT)&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-30 (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-2  ??PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14597</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14597"/>
		<updated>2006-08-27T01:30:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Team Schedule */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Offical WS servers:&#039;&#039;&#039; U.S.Fortress, Wild West - Fortress and Sumo&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Communication&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Team Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Goody ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-25 (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-29 (7pm PST 2am GMT)&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-30 (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-2  ??PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;Can you attend? Please leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe&#039;&#039; ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14542</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14542"/>
		<updated>2006-08-24T07:30:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Offical WS servers:&#039;&#039;&#039; U.S.Fortress, Wild West - Fortress and Sumo&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Communication&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Team Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Goody ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-23 (7pm PST 2am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-25&#039;&#039;&#039; (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-2  ??PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe&#039;&#039; ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14541</id>
		<title>Challenge Room</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14541"/>
		<updated>2006-08-24T07:28:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Based on [[Ladle Feedback]], we are experimenting with another way of self-organising the competition. Team Captains are encouraged to use the [[Challenge Board]] to establish the provisional games to be played that night (Sun 3rd Sept). Otherwise Team Captains will have to organise play-offs by visiting the common chat-room to ensure all teams turn up and deal with any problems that may arise. If the preparations are abused in any way, then let us rely on Team Captains to organise it as they did in the first Ladle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One critical problem to solve: recruiting last-minute. I was most disheartened to discover that one of AW&#039;s established team-mates was effectively locked out of a server because it was full. We must be more careful about last-minute additions, as well as recognise that without these last-minute recruits the Ladle would have crashed at the outset. So... any practical suggestions..? See Last Minute Solutions below. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Team Captains ==&lt;br /&gt;
Players must elect a member from their [[LADLE team-lists]], and all captains must put their names here to prepare for the night. Please make sure you have a reasonable form of communication with your team-mates, whether it is IRC, Skype, Team-speak, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* anarchic wanderers -&lt;br /&gt;
* Wraith Squadron - Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== T-room chat-room and [[Challenge Board]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Team Captains use the chat-room to register their team: their team is assembled at the appropriate server and they are ready to play. Team Captains should register at 6.45, 7.30, 8.15 and 9pm GMT. That is, at the beginning of every round...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the Team Captains verify the listing of teams on the [[Challenge Board]] before the first meeting, then the competition might run smoothly. If things get messy, then we must resort to trusting one another and allowing Team Captains the opportunity to challenge other teams and allocating servers on the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Team Captains should familiarise themselves with [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/cgi-bin/irc.cgi?adv=1 Joda&#039;s web interface] or connect to our [[IRC Channel]] using any [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_clients IRC client].&#039;&#039;&#039; If there&#039;s a need for private talk between teams they can make their own channel or use private messages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Last-minute Solutions ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following solutions need to be aired... check them out... and we must decide on one of them before the big day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Captain&#039;s Lock ===&lt;br /&gt;
One simple rule: The Captains are the last player of their team to enter the server, and by doing so, they will fill the server and effectively lock it. That is, a match will only start when both Team Captains have entered the grid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the time the Captain is out of the server, there can only be a maximum of 7 players since team-mates need to leave a space for the captain. Hence, the server will always remain open for last-minute additions and for late team-mates to join.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Team Captain should be in some form of communication with team-mates, whether it is a chat-room, team-speak, Skype, IRC, or whatever. They should know how many players have turned up for the day&#039;s play. If they have a full team, then everything will run smoothly, visiting the Captain&#039;s T-room to register and then returning to play the match. If, however, they lack a player or two, they have the opportunity of going around the different servers and doing some last minute recruiting. Their team should fill out and eventually the other team-mates will tell the captain they have 7 players and the Captain can return to the server, being the 8th member of the team, filling the server, and thus starting the match.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This system should allow the flexibility for team-mates who are a little late. If, while the Team-Captain is out recruiting, a regular team-mate arrives, the team can ask any last-minute additions to leave, while still retaining the space for the 8th player -- the Team Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== a.o.b. ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Ideas &amp;amp; Discussion ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just throwing out this idea to see what others think. Generally in the past it has been hard for all teams (even some large clans) to field 8 players. Also in general we are falling off on number of teams participating. If  we had a recommended team size of say maybe 5 it would leave more players to form up in additional teams, or even have a (SL knights, SL samurais) split. You can only guess who the final teams in the playoffs would be, lol. Also having 10 players on the grid as apposed to 16 would solve some lag issues on underpowered servers. --Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== max number of players ===&lt;br /&gt;
(Will the player count be locked at 8 plus spectators? Alowing a few exra spectators really helps with switching out team mates mid game.) Otherwise sounds good to me. -- Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure... thought it was maximum of 16 in a server. I just don&#039;t want regular players locked out of a match like Madmax was in the last tournament. I had no way of knowing he was waiting outside. Also, one of the major delays was waiting for players to attend. I think we should be super-strict about time and everything else should follow. I agree about spectators, or subs -- but does the standard fortress settings enable a few extra spectators before being filled? [[User:2020|2020]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== US Servers  ===&lt;br /&gt;
I notice that for Quarter Finals and After all the servers listed are European. During the Last ladle Bugfarm was very busy with looky loos do to that being the usual server people play on. Perhaps after the first round the US server could replace bugfarm on the list. Most US player average around 100 ping vs European players getting 30 - 60 on local servers so it seems that would be more than fair. Plus concidering Durka&#039;s pionts in the Feedback section. - GREAT job laying out the page 2020, it just gets better and better.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Good thinking... the actual server matches are played on should be decided by the team captains with only provisional listings above. Wraith Squadron has already chosen to be Team 8 which means they want to play on the US server and it would make sense to have the continuity of the US server with Quarters between Team 5/6 v Team 7/8 and semi&#039;s Team 1/2/3/4 v Team 5/6/7/8... though I see no problem in adding it to the options for the Quarter Finals and later. Does this make sense? Please remember this is all just provisional to assist Team Captains make their decisions on the day as quickly and as efficiently as possible without anyone being in charge. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If someone wants to give me a yell a day or two before the Ladle I can offer up Swamplords Teams as a US server and increase MAX_CLIENTS, change admin pass and give it to the team captains who will use it.  Lag is a serious concern on my server though.  It didn&#039;t get much play during the SPOON because of that.  --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 23:21, 27 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=LADLE_team-lists&amp;diff=14540</id>
		<title>LADLE team-lists</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=LADLE_team-lists&amp;diff=14540"/>
		<updated>2006-08-24T07:07:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Wraith Squadron */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Stick your name down on a list, or start your own team. Based on player feedback, we are going to try to organise the timing a little better so that the day (Sun 3rd September) runs smoothly...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please indicate a captain. Check out the [[Challenge Room]] for the way the play-offs are organised.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[anarchic wanderers]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
* 2020&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;~ }{Alex}{ ~&#039;&#039;&#039; {~ may be away, will let u know if i can make it. msn me ~ tcs_ownz_you@hotmail.co.uk ~}&lt;br /&gt;
* ghableska- if I can actually make it this time... :)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [http://teamlol.rocks.it ¡LØL!] ==&lt;br /&gt;
* G5 (I hope I can make it)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Shadow League]] == &lt;br /&gt;
* Ossi&lt;br /&gt;
* Meriton&lt;br /&gt;
* Infamous&lt;br /&gt;
* Sasha&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Wraith Squadron]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
* AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
* BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
* eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
* Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
* Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[old team lists]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where you can find the team lists for the First and Second Ladle Games.--&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14539</id>
		<title>Challenge Room</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14539"/>
		<updated>2006-08-24T07:06:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Team Captains */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Based on [[Ladle Feedback]], we are experimenting with another way of self-organising the competition. Team Captains are encouraged to use the [[Challenge Board]] to establish the provisional games to be played that night (Sun 3rd Sept). Otherwise Team Captains will have to organise play-offs by visiting the common chat-room to ensure all teams turn up and deal with any problems that may arise. If the preparations are abused in any way, then let us rely on Team Captains to organise it as they did in the first Ladle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One critical problem to solve: recruiting last-minute. I was most disheartened to discover that one of AW&#039;s established team-mates was effectively locked out of a server because it was full. We must be more careful about last-minute additions, as well as recognise that without these last-minute recruits the Ladle would have crashed at the outset. So... any practical suggestions..? See Last Minute Solutions below. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Team Captains ==&lt;br /&gt;
Players must elect a member from their [[LADLE team-lists]], and all captains must put their names here to prepare for the night. Please make sure you have a reasonable form of communication with your team-mates, whether it is IRC, Skype, Team-speak, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* anarchic wanderers -&lt;br /&gt;
* Wraith Squadron - Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== T-room chat-room and [[Challenge Board]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Team Captains use the chat-room to register their team: their team is assembled at the appropriate server and they are ready to play. Team Captains should register at 6.45, 7.30, 8.15 and 9pm GMT. That is, at the beginning of every round...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the Team Captains verify the listing of teams on the [[Challenge Board]] before the first meeting, then the competition might run smoothly. If things get messy, then we must resort to trusting one another and allowing Team Captains the opportunity to challenge other teams and allocating servers on the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Team Captains should familiarise themselves with [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/cgi-bin/irc.cgi?adv=1 Joda&#039;s web interface] or connect to our [[IRC Channel]] using any [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_clients IRC client].&#039;&#039;&#039; If there&#039;s a need for private talk between teams they can make their own channel or use private messages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Last-minute Solutions ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following solutions need to be aired... check them out... and we must decide on one of them before the big day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Captain&#039;s Lock ===&lt;br /&gt;
One simple rule: The Captains are the last player of their team to enter the server, and by doing so, they will fill the server and effectively lock it. That is, a match will only start when both Team Captains have entered the grid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the time the Captain is out of the server, there can only be a maximum of 7 players since team-mates need to leave a space for the captain. Hence, the server will always remain open for last-minute additions and for late team-mates to join.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Team Captain should be in some form of communication with team-mates, whether it is a chat-room, team-speak, Skype, IRC, or whatever. They should know how many players have turned up for the day&#039;s play. If they have a full team, then everything will run smoothly, visiting the Captain&#039;s T-room to register and then returning to play the match. If, however, they lack a player or two, they have the opportunity of going around the different servers and doing some last minute recruiting. Their team should fill out and eventually the other team-mates will tell the captain they have 7 players and the Captain can return to the server, being the 8th member of the team, filling the server, and thus starting the match.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This system should allow the flexibility for team-mates who are a little late. If, while the Team-Captain is out recruiting, a regular team-mate arrives, the team can ask any last-minute additions to leave, while still retaining the space for the 8th player -- the Team Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== a.o.b. ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== max number of players ===&lt;br /&gt;
(Will the player count be locked at 8 plus spectators? Alowing a few exra spectators really helps with switching out team mates mid game.) Otherwise sounds good to me. -- Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure... thought it was maximum of 16 in a server. I just don&#039;t want regular players locked out of a match like Madmax was in the last tournament. I had no way of knowing he was waiting outside. Also, one of the major delays was waiting for players to attend. I think we should be super-strict about time and everything else should follow. I agree about spectators, or subs -- but does the standard fortress settings enable a few extra spectators before being filled? [[User:2020|2020]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== US Servers  ===&lt;br /&gt;
I notice that for Quarter Finals and After all the servers listed are European. During the Last ladle Bugfarm was very busy with looky loos do to that being the usual server people play on. Perhaps after the first round the US server could replace bugfarm on the list. Most US player average around 100 ping vs European players getting 30 - 60 on local servers so it seems that would be more than fair. Plus concidering Durka&#039;s pionts in the Feedback section. - GREAT job laying out the page 2020, it just gets better and better.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Good thinking... the actual server matches are played on should be decided by the team captains with only provisional listings above. Wraith Squadron has already chosen to be Team 8 which means they want to play on the US server and it would make sense to have the continuity of the US server with Quarters between Team 5/6 v Team 7/8 and semi&#039;s Team 1/2/3/4 v Team 5/6/7/8... though I see no problem in adding it to the options for the Quarter Finals and later. Does this make sense? Please remember this is all just provisional to assist Team Captains make their decisions on the day as quickly and as efficiently as possible without anyone being in charge. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If someone wants to give me a yell a day or two before the Ladle I can offer up Swamplords Teams as a US server and increase MAX_CLIENTS, change admin pass and give it to the team captains who will use it.  Lag is a serious concern on my server though.  It didn&#039;t get much play during the SPOON because of that.  --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 23:21, 27 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14538</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14538"/>
		<updated>2006-08-24T07:04:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Offical WS servers:&#039;&#039;&#039; Wild West - Fortress and Sumo&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Communication&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Team Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Goody ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-23 (7pm PST 2am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-25&#039;&#039;&#039; (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-2  ??PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe&#039;&#039; ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14537</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14537"/>
		<updated>2006-08-24T07:00:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Offical WS servers:&#039;&#039;&#039; Wild West - Fortress and Sumo&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Schedule)-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me ||  ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-23 (7pm PST 2am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-25&#039;&#039;&#039; (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-2  ??PST || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe&#039;&#039; ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14536</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14536"/>
		<updated>2006-08-24T06:57:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Schedule)-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me ||  ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-23 (7pm PST 2am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-25&#039;&#039;&#039; (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-2  ??PST || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe&#039;&#039; ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14527</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14527"/>
		<updated>2006-08-20T08:00:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Schedule)-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me ||  ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-23&#039;&#039;&#039; (7pm PST 2am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-25 (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-2  ??PST || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | &#039;&#039;Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe&#039;&#039; ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14526</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14526"/>
		<updated>2006-08-20T07:56:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Schedule)-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me ||  ||  ||  ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Practice Aug-23&#039;&#039;&#039; (7pm PST 2am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice Aug-25 (9pm PST 4am GMT) || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle Sep-2  ??PST || m || m || m || m || m || m || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=LADLE_team-lists&amp;diff=14525</id>
		<title>LADLE team-lists</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=LADLE_team-lists&amp;diff=14525"/>
		<updated>2006-08-20T07:44:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Wraith Squadron */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Stick your name down on a list, or start your own team. Based on player feedback, we are going to try to organise the timing a little better so that the day (Sun 3rd September) runs smoothly...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please indicate a captain. Check out the [[Challenge Room]] for the way the play-offs are organised.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[anarchic wanderers]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
* 2020&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;~ }{Alex}{ ~&#039;&#039;&#039; {~ may be away, will let u know if i can make it. msn me ~ tcs_ownz_you@hotmail.co.uk ~}&lt;br /&gt;
* ghableska- if I can actually make it this time... :)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [http://teamlol.rocks.it ¡LØL!] ==&lt;br /&gt;
* G5 (I hope I can make it)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Wraith Squadron]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
* AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
* Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[old team lists]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where you can find the team lists for the First and Second Ladle Games.--&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14524</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14524"/>
		<updated>2006-08-20T07:43:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be. WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Can you show up?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14345</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14345"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:55:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be. WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Can you show up?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14344</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14344"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:54:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
||&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be. WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Can you show up? =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14343</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14343"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:44:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Ladle Notes */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be!!! WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
!&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle!&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be. WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|| || || ||&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;-Members-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
 AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
 BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
 BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
 Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
 eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
 Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
 kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
 Manta&lt;br /&gt;
 Me&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14342</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14342"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:32:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be!!! WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
!- Members -|| ||&lt;br /&gt;
* AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
* BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
* BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
* Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
* eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
* Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
* kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
* Manta&lt;br /&gt;
* Me&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14341</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14341"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:28:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be!!! WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Members -&lt;br /&gt;
* AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
* BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
* BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
* Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
* eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
* Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
* kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
* Manta&lt;br /&gt;
* Me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14340</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14340"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:23:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be!!! WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to have finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Members -&lt;br /&gt;
* AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
* BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
* BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
* Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
* eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
* Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
* kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
* Manta&lt;br /&gt;
* Me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14339</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14339"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:19:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be!!! WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Ladle Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14338</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14338"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:15:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be!!! WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well sounds like a nice way to put it anyway, lol&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Communication)-&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;-(Team Practice)-&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;&#039;LADLE NOTES&#039;&#039;&#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Holes&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Win zone&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Placement&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Defender&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14337</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14337"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:08:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Can you show up? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be!!! WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well sounds like a nice way to put it anyway, lol&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;&#039;LADLE NOTES&#039;&#039;&#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Holes-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Win zone-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Placement- &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Defender-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do we want to continue to have a weekly team practice? say every Tuesday evening?&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll hold off on scheduling anything for now until we have a consensus...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We had a great practice Sunday, we still have some things that need work, Me was able to attend so only one we are waiting on is Ecky-Thump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 6PM PST - 9PM EST - 1AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14336</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14336"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:05:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be!!! WOOHOOOO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team to finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well sounds like a nice way to put it anyway, lol&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;&#039;LADLE NOTES&#039;&#039;&#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Holes-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Win zone-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Placement- &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Defender-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
What&#039;s the deal? Where/when we playing for ladle? - Bashusr&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We had a great practice Sunday, we still have some things that need work, Me was able to attend so only one we are waiting on is Ecky-Thump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 6PM PST - 9PM EST - 1AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14335</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14335"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T01:04:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a ANOTHER great job during the ladle.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
As places go second place is a great place to be. ;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right now we are the only team that has finished in the top 2 in every ladle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well sounds like a nice way to put it any way, lol&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication so can we enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;&#039;LADLE NOTES&#039;&#039;&#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Holes-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Win zone-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Placement- &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Defender-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
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Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
What&#039;s the deal? Where/when we playing for ladle? - Bashusr&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We had a great practice Sunday, we still have some things that need work, Me was able to attend so only one we are waiting on is Ecky-Thump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 6PM PST - 9PM EST - 1AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
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Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
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Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
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We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Feedback&amp;diff=14333</id>
		<title>Ladle Feedback</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Feedback&amp;diff=14333"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T00:55:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Feedback for the Second Ladle */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Feedback for the Second Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Ping was a big determiner in who won the matches. Ideas suggested during the game was to split the final between two servers. Also, the captains did not make use of the challenge room in the wiki. It was all just organised before the matches, which was ok because we only have four teams of about five players each. The idea is for the system to be future-proof, scalable to hundreds if not thousands of team... I can&#039;t see this working that well with more than four teams. I think team captains should take a little more responsibillity for making sure they choose a server that suits their players. And of course, it is the responsibility of the players to turn up! Oh well... Also... it would be nice to have little animations of the highlight, specific moves, climax battles, that kind of thing... can I change the format of the recording to make it quicktime? [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
;Lackadaisical&lt;br /&gt;
:Would it be possible to do the next ladle on a sunday and maybe a bit earlier? Saturday night isn&#039;t the best time to go play a computergame for the europeans.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:If we are to drop scheduled games again from not enough teams show, we should move those matches up in time instead of delaying. WS lost half their players do to the time being changed. We do need to work out the scheduling on the wiki better next time as the matches ended up being switched right before game time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The procedural changes made since the last ladle really improved things. You did a GREAT job coordinating everything 2020. Thank you! Team coordination seemed to flow very well and having an admin on hand was a big help. The team captains were able to work out any issues and the players were polite to each other. I&#039;d say we all had fun and in the end that is the reason we all showed up. Congratulations to everyone who played!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:And dealing with the ping issue: Over all having a few low ping players on any one team does not make it unfair. It is when 100% of one team&#039;s players have 1/3 the ping of the other that attrition will catch up every time. (Not to bring up my 438 ping ;), lol)  An average 180s on one side vs 60s on the other can be a bit unbalanced. Similar to a 4 vs 7 player match. To solve this I don&#039;t think a single server can be found to please everyone. Germany does have some of the most active players so it would be wrong to say force them to play a US server for example.  Perhaps some ideas can be worked out before the next ladle. Playing half the games on one server then switching might cause it&#039;s own logistics issues. What are some other peoples ideas?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Feedback for the First Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Quality of Your Playing ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:I was a passenger. I moved house, was using an old computer (fps was 15), and my connection got broken 3 times while playing Shadow League in the Semi&#039;s -- aaaaarrrrrghghghghgh. Like Van, hehe, and Durka I think.&lt;br /&gt;
* Yep me 2---[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*heh ya I wish my connection dropped only 3 times, More like 10-15, there was a storm going on at the time--[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:It was a nice surprise that my ISP didn&#039;t have their usual holiday weekend hiccups. :)  Over all I certainly could have done better, I&#039;m not very good under pressure and my dialup connection seems to get saturated with more than 12 players on the grid. Oh and Manta sucks at sweeping :P&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;sky&lt;br /&gt;
:well my computer already sucks haha. so i did fine until the AW match. made a lot more mistakes. only in the last AW match i was able to get like 8 or 10 points or somethin. but the other rounds there were less players playing like 7v7s or 6v6s and it was much easier to get through. also my ping was nicer. i want a pc haha. still had a great time though&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Quality of Your Team Playing ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Anarchic Wanderers were amazing. I never got to see much of the offence, but defence was superb. Garissimo was solid at the back, only getting beaten when the odds were 4 to 1. I saw Vanhayes pulling off a major stunt -- amazing! And Eggcozy was superb as sweeper. I had fun playing with the offence of the other teams most times; we just kept them back for ages while our offence did the biz. Superb quality of play.&lt;br /&gt;
*;[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*:I played for AW in the match against SL. I didn&#039;t get to see much of the amazing defense by our team. Everytime I would just bust through their middle and take up part of Sasha&#039;s def before he could make it complete. The problem was SL sometimes delayed Zop and the others from getting there soon enough...so I would be cramming part of the zone, but it would sometimes do nothing as we had no one else. SL realized this and Sasha&#039;s teammates would try and trap me in their zone. But, sometimes it did work and Zop would get their fast along with one other person and we would capture the zone fast (3 offense vs. 2 defense). It was a great team effort...4 points from winning the second match and 2 from winning the third. Well done SL and CONGRATULATIONS.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;sKy&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:awesome&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Getting Your Team Ready for The Match ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Damned messy. I couldn&#039;t get on the server for about 10 mins. We started about 30 mins late... it gets a little tedious when people are there, some playing, some just waiting for the real game. It would be nice if we could just import an entire team into a server. Have some kind of pre-grid preparation like in the film. Once teams are sorted, we just port into the server. Would be simple. Players would then turn up on time, otherwise, they just miss the boat. Trying to organise a match while playing is tough... too many distractions. Still... we managed it in the end... somehow...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*;[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*:I got to play one round with ¡LØL! because I was late. I showed up and only 2 people that were ACTUALLY on WS were playing. Everyone else was picked up &amp;quot;from the streets.&amp;quot; (Example: man2d played with ¡LØL!, (WS), &amp;amp; SL during the tourney...just a little unfair). Also, we really needed 8 teams not 6 (there were 7, but CT didn&#039;t show). (Example: the ¡LØL! vs. WS match in the first round was actually a semi-final match so who-ever won was automatically in the finals...yet again weird. But, overall, the tourney was definately fun. Next time 2020, can we please not try and play the tournament &#039;&#039;&#039;ALL IN ONE DAY!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Too chaotic!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:Getting Wraith Squadron ready for each match was actually quite easy. All our players met in an MSN chat room one hour before the start time and we did all our coordinating from there. This made it very easy for us to all show up on one server at the same time. We then disconnected during game play of course. ---- Since there were ONLY 2 ladle servers and LOL &amp;amp; WS were the last teams paired we were forced to use Bugfarm fortress. This caused quite a bit of confusion with visiting players joining the match. Kindly, most willingly left or stayed as spectators. Also I don&#039;t believe man2d played for WS at any time during the tournament as he was on each of the opposing teams we played. Wish we had had him though.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Team-Captains and the Challenge Room ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:As admin of 2020&#039;s T-room it was ok... but a bit stressful. Loads of people, including non-captains and noobs entering. The text area was too small and too many people were talking. Some were asking me to die so that they could join the game -- as if we were meant to be playing! Some of the non-captains were useful since they could leave the T-room and search for players like Xevi for Crazy Tronners, and the state of play in matches.&lt;br /&gt;
:Team-captains did the job well though, challenging one another, then setting off to do their matches. However, I think we should have waited until everyone knew who was playing who and where before leaving. The only real way of doing this is building a simple interface with challenge-board, etc so that people could see if they were challenged and whether they accepted etc. Still.. on the whole, it worked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:While using the T-room was problematic it did serve it&#039;s purpose well and its probably the only 100% sure way everyone has to communicate. 2020 took down the chat-server while he played which is understandable but we really need one up at all times for team captains to check in on each other while another match may still be ongoing. THANK YOU for all your work 2020, the ladle would not have been the success it was without you!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Anything else? ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Could have done with more matches. Also, losing teams could have played one another. In fact, we probably had time to play a round-robin affair. What was best about it is that we ended up with a winner. We trusted team-captains, and they pulled it off.&lt;br /&gt;
:My wishlist? Somehow keep teams together, maybe with some kind of pre-grid preparation room like the film. If this runs simultaneously to gameplay, you can be playing around in some server, and then when your team is assembled and ready, you are notified and requested to port to the proper server where your team assembles against the opposing team. Also, some kind of software to automate the challenges. The chat-facility was not good enough... too much noise...&lt;br /&gt;
:It is all to do with timing. As a first attempt, I think it was successful. The trick is... how to make it better...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:--- Having the ability to lock a server to a certain number of players ahead of time. While letting there be room for a couple of spectators so backup team members can standby but keeping riffraff from joining. --- Letting a small majority successfully kick someone, without having to distract all the players with the vote. --- Have shuffle down AND up enabled to allow team placement. --- Have more servers available. --- Personally I liked the month long idea but I must say having the games all on one day seemed to work better. But this also made it very hectic and with elimination, losing teams only got to play one match after the effort of getting everyone coordinated. --- Over all I&#039;d say the ladle was a great success and everyone had a great time which is most important.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Feedback&amp;diff=14331</id>
		<title>Ladle Feedback</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Feedback&amp;diff=14331"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T00:54:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Feedback for the Second Ladle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Feedback for the Second Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Ping was a big determiner in who won the matches. Ideas suggested during the game was to split the final between two servers. Also, the captains did not make use of the challenge room in the wiki. It was all just organised before the matches, which was ok because we only have four teams of about five players each. The idea is for the system to be future-proof, scalable to hundreds if not thousands of team... I can&#039;t see this working that well with more than four teams. I think team captains should take a little more responsibillity for making sure they choose a server that suits their players. And of course, it is the responsibility of the players to turn up! Oh well... Also... it would be nice to have little animations of the highlight, specific moves, climax battles, that kind of thing... can I change the format of the recording to make it quicktime? [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:If we are to drop scheduled games again from not enough teams show, we should move those matches up in time instead of delaying. WS lost half their players do to the time being changed. We do need to work out the scheduling on the wiki better next time as the matches ended up being switched right before game time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The procedural changes made since the last ladle really improved things. You did a GREAT job coordinating everything 2020. Thank you! Team coordination seemed to flow very well and having an admin on hand was a big help. The team captains were able to work out any issues and the players were polite to each other. I&#039;d say we all had fun and in the end that is the reason we all showed up. Congratulations to everyone who played!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And dealing with the ping issue: Over all having a few low ping players on any one team does not make it unfair. It is when 100% of one team&#039;s players have 1/3 the ping of the other that attrition will catch up every time. (Not to bring up my 438 ping ;), lol)  An average 180s on one side vs 60s on the other can be a bit unbalanced. Similar to a 4 vs 7 player match. To solve this I don&#039;t think a single server can be found to please everyone. Gemany does have some of the most active players so it would be wrong to say force them to play a US server for example.  Perhaps some ideas can be worked out before the next ladle. Playing half the games on one server then switching might cause it&#039;s own logistics issues. What are some other peoples ideas?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Feedback for the First Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Quality of Your Playing ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:I was a passenger. I moved house, was using an old computer (fps was 15), and my connection got broken 3 times while playing Shadow League in the Semi&#039;s -- aaaaarrrrrghghghghgh. Like Van, hehe, and Durka I think.&lt;br /&gt;
* Yep me 2---[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*heh ya I wish my connection dropped only 3 times, More like 10-15, there was a storm going on at the time--[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:It was a nice surprise that my ISP didn&#039;t have their usual holiday weekend hiccups. :)  Over all I certainly could have done better, I&#039;m not very good under pressure and my dialup connection seems to get saturated with more than 12 players on the grid. Oh and Manta sucks at sweeping :P&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;sky&lt;br /&gt;
:well my computer already sucks haha. so i did fine until the AW match. made a lot more mistakes. only in the last AW match i was able to get like 8 or 10 points or somethin. but the other rounds there were less players playing like 7v7s or 6v6s and it was much easier to get through. also my ping was nicer. i want a pc haha. still had a great time though&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Quality of Your Team Playing ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Anarchic Wanderers were amazing. I never got to see much of the offence, but defence was superb. Garissimo was solid at the back, only getting beaten when the odds were 4 to 1. I saw Vanhayes pulling off a major stunt -- amazing! And Eggcozy was superb as sweeper. I had fun playing with the offence of the other teams most times; we just kept them back for ages while our offence did the biz. Superb quality of play.&lt;br /&gt;
*;[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*:I played for AW in the match against SL. I didn&#039;t get to see much of the amazing defense by our team. Everytime I would just bust through their middle and take up part of Sasha&#039;s def before he could make it complete. The problem was SL sometimes delayed Zop and the others from getting there soon enough...so I would be cramming part of the zone, but it would sometimes do nothing as we had no one else. SL realized this and Sasha&#039;s teammates would try and trap me in their zone. But, sometimes it did work and Zop would get their fast along with one other person and we would capture the zone fast (3 offense vs. 2 defense). It was a great team effort...4 points from winning the second match and 2 from winning the third. Well done SL and CONGRATULATIONS.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;sKy&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:awesome&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Getting Your Team Ready for The Match ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Damned messy. I couldn&#039;t get on the server for about 10 mins. We started about 30 mins late... it gets a little tedious when people are there, some playing, some just waiting for the real game. It would be nice if we could just import an entire team into a server. Have some kind of pre-grid preparation like in the film. Once teams are sorted, we just port into the server. Would be simple. Players would then turn up on time, otherwise, they just miss the boat. Trying to organise a match while playing is tough... too many distractions. Still... we managed it in the end... somehow...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*;[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*:I got to play one round with ¡LØL! because I was late. I showed up and only 2 people that were ACTUALLY on WS were playing. Everyone else was picked up &amp;quot;from the streets.&amp;quot; (Example: man2d played with ¡LØL!, (WS), &amp;amp; SL during the tourney...just a little unfair). Also, we really needed 8 teams not 6 (there were 7, but CT didn&#039;t show). (Example: the ¡LØL! vs. WS match in the first round was actually a semi-final match so who-ever won was automatically in the finals...yet again weird. But, overall, the tourney was definately fun. Next time 2020, can we please not try and play the tournament &#039;&#039;&#039;ALL IN ONE DAY!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Too chaotic!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:Getting Wraith Squadron ready for each match was actually quite easy. All our players met in an MSN chat room one hour before the start time and we did all our coordinating from there. This made it very easy for us to all show up on one server at the same time. We then disconnected during game play of course. ---- Since there were ONLY 2 ladle servers and LOL &amp;amp; WS were the last teams paired we were forced to use Bugfarm fortress. This caused quite a bit of confusion with visiting players joining the match. Kindly, most willingly left or stayed as spectators. Also I don&#039;t believe man2d played for WS at any time during the tournament as he was on each of the opposing teams we played. Wish we had had him though.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Team-Captains and the Challenge Room ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:As admin of 2020&#039;s T-room it was ok... but a bit stressful. Loads of people, including non-captains and noobs entering. The text area was too small and too many people were talking. Some were asking me to die so that they could join the game -- as if we were meant to be playing! Some of the non-captains were useful since they could leave the T-room and search for players like Xevi for Crazy Tronners, and the state of play in matches.&lt;br /&gt;
:Team-captains did the job well though, challenging one another, then setting off to do their matches. However, I think we should have waited until everyone knew who was playing who and where before leaving. The only real way of doing this is building a simple interface with challenge-board, etc so that people could see if they were challenged and whether they accepted etc. Still.. on the whole, it worked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:While using the T-room was problematic it did serve it&#039;s purpose well and its probably the only 100% sure way everyone has to communicate. 2020 took down the chat-server while he played which is understandable but we really need one up at all times for team captains to check in on each other while another match may still be ongoing. THANK YOU for all your work 2020, the ladle would not have been the success it was without you!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Anything else? ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Could have done with more matches. Also, losing teams could have played one another. In fact, we probably had time to play a round-robin affair. What was best about it is that we ended up with a winner. We trusted team-captains, and they pulled it off.&lt;br /&gt;
:My wishlist? Somehow keep teams together, maybe with some kind of pre-grid preparation room like the film. If this runs simultaneously to gameplay, you can be playing around in some server, and then when your team is assembled and ready, you are notified and requested to port to the proper server where your team assembles against the opposing team. Also, some kind of software to automate the challenges. The chat-facility was not good enough... too much noise...&lt;br /&gt;
:It is all to do with timing. As a first attempt, I think it was successful. The trick is... how to make it better...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:--- Having the ability to lock a server to a certain number of players ahead of time. While letting there be room for a couple of spectators so backup team members can standby but keeping riffraff from joining. --- Letting a small majority successfully kick someone, without having to distract all the players with the vote. --- Have shuffle down AND up enabled to allow team placement. --- Have more servers available. --- Personally I liked the month long idea but I must say having the games all on one day seemed to work better. But this also made it very hectic and with elimination, losing teams only got to play one match after the effort of getting everyone coordinated. --- Over all I&#039;d say the ladle was a great success and everyone had a great time which is most important.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Feedback&amp;diff=14330</id>
		<title>Ladle Feedback</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Feedback&amp;diff=14330"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T00:52:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Feedback for the First Ladle */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Feedback for the Second Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Ping was a big determiner in who won the matches. Ideas suggested during the game was to split the final between two servers. Also, the captains did not make use of the challenge room in the wiki. It was all just organised before the matches, which was ok because we only have four teams of about five players each. The idea is for the system to be future-proof, scalable to hundreds if not thousands of team... I can&#039;t see this working that well with more than four teams. I think team captains should take a little more responsibillity for making sure they choose a server that suits their players. And of course, it is the responsibility of the players to turn up! Oh well... Also... it would be nice to have little animations of the highlight, specific moves, climax battles, that kind of thing... can I change the format of the recording to make it quicktime? [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Feedback for the First Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Quality of Your Playing ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:I was a passenger. I moved house, was using an old computer (fps was 15), and my connection got broken 3 times while playing Shadow League in the Semi&#039;s -- aaaaarrrrrghghghghgh. Like Van, hehe, and Durka I think.&lt;br /&gt;
* Yep me 2---[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*heh ya I wish my connection dropped only 3 times, More like 10-15, there was a storm going on at the time--[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:It was a nice surprise that my ISP didn&#039;t have their usual holiday weekend hiccups. :)  Over all I certainly could have done better, I&#039;m not very good under pressure and my dialup connection seems to get saturated with more than 12 players on the grid. Oh and Manta sucks at sweeping :P&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;sky&lt;br /&gt;
:well my computer already sucks haha. so i did fine until the AW match. made a lot more mistakes. only in the last AW match i was able to get like 8 or 10 points or somethin. but the other rounds there were less players playing like 7v7s or 6v6s and it was much easier to get through. also my ping was nicer. i want a pc haha. still had a great time though&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Quality of Your Team Playing ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Anarchic Wanderers were amazing. I never got to see much of the offence, but defence was superb. Garissimo was solid at the back, only getting beaten when the odds were 4 to 1. I saw Vanhayes pulling off a major stunt -- amazing! And Eggcozy was superb as sweeper. I had fun playing with the offence of the other teams most times; we just kept them back for ages while our offence did the biz. Superb quality of play.&lt;br /&gt;
*;[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*:I played for AW in the match against SL. I didn&#039;t get to see much of the amazing defense by our team. Everytime I would just bust through their middle and take up part of Sasha&#039;s def before he could make it complete. The problem was SL sometimes delayed Zop and the others from getting there soon enough...so I would be cramming part of the zone, but it would sometimes do nothing as we had no one else. SL realized this and Sasha&#039;s teammates would try and trap me in their zone. But, sometimes it did work and Zop would get their fast along with one other person and we would capture the zone fast (3 offense vs. 2 defense). It was a great team effort...4 points from winning the second match and 2 from winning the third. Well done SL and CONGRATULATIONS.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;sKy&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:awesome&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Getting Your Team Ready for The Match ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Damned messy. I couldn&#039;t get on the server for about 10 mins. We started about 30 mins late... it gets a little tedious when people are there, some playing, some just waiting for the real game. It would be nice if we could just import an entire team into a server. Have some kind of pre-grid preparation like in the film. Once teams are sorted, we just port into the server. Would be simple. Players would then turn up on time, otherwise, they just miss the boat. Trying to organise a match while playing is tough... too many distractions. Still... we managed it in the end... somehow...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*;[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*:I got to play one round with ¡LØL! because I was late. I showed up and only 2 people that were ACTUALLY on WS were playing. Everyone else was picked up &amp;quot;from the streets.&amp;quot; (Example: man2d played with ¡LØL!, (WS), &amp;amp; SL during the tourney...just a little unfair). Also, we really needed 8 teams not 6 (there were 7, but CT didn&#039;t show). (Example: the ¡LØL! vs. WS match in the first round was actually a semi-final match so who-ever won was automatically in the finals...yet again weird. But, overall, the tourney was definately fun. Next time 2020, can we please not try and play the tournament &#039;&#039;&#039;ALL IN ONE DAY!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Too chaotic!&lt;br /&gt;
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;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:Getting Wraith Squadron ready for each match was actually quite easy. All our players met in an MSN chat room one hour before the start time and we did all our coordinating from there. This made it very easy for us to all show up on one server at the same time. We then disconnected during game play of course. ---- Since there were ONLY 2 ladle servers and LOL &amp;amp; WS were the last teams paired we were forced to use Bugfarm fortress. This caused quite a bit of confusion with visiting players joining the match. Kindly, most willingly left or stayed as spectators. Also I don&#039;t believe man2d played for WS at any time during the tournament as he was on each of the opposing teams we played. Wish we had had him though.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Team-Captains and the Challenge Room ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:As admin of 2020&#039;s T-room it was ok... but a bit stressful. Loads of people, including non-captains and noobs entering. The text area was too small and too many people were talking. Some were asking me to die so that they could join the game -- as if we were meant to be playing! Some of the non-captains were useful since they could leave the T-room and search for players like Xevi for Crazy Tronners, and the state of play in matches.&lt;br /&gt;
:Team-captains did the job well though, challenging one another, then setting off to do their matches. However, I think we should have waited until everyone knew who was playing who and where before leaving. The only real way of doing this is building a simple interface with challenge-board, etc so that people could see if they were challenged and whether they accepted etc. Still.. on the whole, it worked.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:While using the T-room was problematic it did serve it&#039;s purpose well and its probably the only 100% sure way everyone has to communicate. 2020 took down the chat-server while he played which is understandable but we really need one up at all times for team captains to check in on each other while another match may still be ongoing. THANK YOU for all your work 2020, the ladle would not have been the success it was without you!&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Anything else? ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Could have done with more matches. Also, losing teams could have played one another. In fact, we probably had time to play a round-robin affair. What was best about it is that we ended up with a winner. We trusted team-captains, and they pulled it off.&lt;br /&gt;
:My wishlist? Somehow keep teams together, maybe with some kind of pre-grid preparation room like the film. If this runs simultaneously to gameplay, you can be playing around in some server, and then when your team is assembled and ready, you are notified and requested to port to the proper server where your team assembles against the opposing team. Also, some kind of software to automate the challenges. The chat-facility was not good enough... too much noise...&lt;br /&gt;
:It is all to do with timing. As a first attempt, I think it was successful. The trick is... how to make it better...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:--- Having the ability to lock a server to a certain number of players ahead of time. While letting there be room for a couple of spectators so backup team members can standby but keeping riffraff from joining. --- Letting a small majority successfully kick someone, without having to distract all the players with the vote. --- Have shuffle down AND up enabled to allow team placement. --- Have more servers available. --- Personally I liked the month long idea but I must say having the games all on one day seemed to work better. But this also made it very hectic and with elimination, losing teams only got to play one match after the effort of getting everyone coordinated. --- Over all I&#039;d say the ladle was a great success and everyone had a great time which is most important.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Feedback&amp;diff=14329</id>
		<title>Ladle Feedback</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Feedback&amp;diff=14329"/>
		<updated>2006-07-30T00:52:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Feedback for the First Ladle */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please write your comments below about your experience of the event. You can also add comments about how it could be better... This information may be useful for anyone who tries to do such a thing again...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Feedback for the Second Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Ping was a big determiner in who won the matches. Ideas suggested during the game was to split the final between two servers. Also, the captains did not make use of the challenge room in the wiki. It was all just organised before the matches, which was ok because we only have four teams of about five players each. The idea is for the system to be future-proof, scalable to hundreds if not thousands of team... I can&#039;t see this working that well with more than four teams. I think team captains should take a little more responsibillity for making sure they choose a server that suits their players. And of course, it is the responsibility of the players to turn up! Oh well... Also... it would be nice to have little animations of the highlight, specific moves, climax battles, that kind of thing... can I change the format of the recording to make it quicktime? [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Feedback for the First Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Quality of Your Playing ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:I was a passenger. I moved house, was using an old computer (fps was 15), and my connection got broken 3 times while playing Shadow League in the Semi&#039;s -- aaaaarrrrrghghghghgh. Like Van, hehe, and Durka I think.&lt;br /&gt;
* Yep me 2---[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*heh ya I wish my connection dropped only 3 times, More like 10-15, there was a storm going on at the time--[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:It was a nice surprise that my ISP didn&#039;t have their usual holiday weekend hiccups. :)  Over all I certainly could have done better, I&#039;m not very good under pressure and my dialup connection seems to get saturated with more than 12 players on the grid. Oh and Manta sucks at sweeping :P&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;sky&lt;br /&gt;
:well my computer already sucks haha. so i did fine until the AW match. made a lot more mistakes. only in the last AW match i was able to get like 8 or 10 points or somethin. but the other rounds there were less players playing like 7v7s or 6v6s and it was much easier to get through. also my ping was nicer. i want a pc haha. still had a great time though&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Quality of Your Team Playing ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Anarchic Wanderers were amazing. I never got to see much of the offence, but defence was superb. Garissimo was solid at the back, only getting beaten when the odds were 4 to 1. I saw Vanhayes pulling off a major stunt -- amazing! And Eggcozy was superb as sweeper. I had fun playing with the offence of the other teams most times; we just kept them back for ages while our offence did the biz. Superb quality of play.&lt;br /&gt;
*;[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*:I played for AW in the match against SL. I didn&#039;t get to see much of the amazing defense by our team. Everytime I would just bust through their middle and take up part of Sasha&#039;s def before he could make it complete. The problem was SL sometimes delayed Zop and the others from getting there soon enough...so I would be cramming part of the zone, but it would sometimes do nothing as we had no one else. SL realized this and Sasha&#039;s teammates would try and trap me in their zone. But, sometimes it did work and Zop would get their fast along with one other person and we would capture the zone fast (3 offense vs. 2 defense). It was a great team effort...4 points from winning the second match and 2 from winning the third. Well done SL and CONGRATULATIONS.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;sKy&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:awesome&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Getting Your Team Ready for The Match ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Damned messy. I couldn&#039;t get on the server for about 10 mins. We started about 30 mins late... it gets a little tedious when people are there, some playing, some just waiting for the real game. It would be nice if we could just import an entire team into a server. Have some kind of pre-grid preparation like in the film. Once teams are sorted, we just port into the server. Would be simple. Players would then turn up on time, otherwise, they just miss the boat. Trying to organise a match while playing is tough... too many distractions. Still... we managed it in the end... somehow...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*;[[User:Durka|Durka]]&lt;br /&gt;
*:I got to play one round with ¡LØL! because I was late. I showed up and only 2 people that were ACTUALLY on WS were playing. Everyone else was picked up &amp;quot;from the streets.&amp;quot; (Example: man2d played with ¡LØL!, (WS), &amp;amp; SL during the tourney...just a little unfair). Also, we really needed 8 teams not 6 (there were 7, but CT didn&#039;t show). (Example: the ¡LØL! vs. WS match in the first round was actually a semi-final match so who-ever won was automatically in the finals...yet again weird. But, overall, the tourney was definately fun. Next time 2020, can we please not try and play the tournament &#039;&#039;&#039;ALL IN ONE DAY!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Too chaotic!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:Getting Wraith Squadron ready for each match was actually quite easy. All our players met in an MSN chat room one hour before the start time and we did all our coordinating from there. This made it very easy for us to all show up on one server at the same time. We then disconnected during game play of course. ---- Since there were ONLY 2 ladle servers and LOL &amp;amp; WS were the last teams paired we were forced to use Bugfarm fortress. This caused quite a bit of confusion with visiting players joining the match. Kindly, most willingly left or stayed as spectators. Also I don&#039;t believe man2d played for WS at any time during the tournament as he was on each of the opposing teams we played. Wish we had had him though.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Team-Captains and the Challenge Room ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:As admin of 2020&#039;s T-room it was ok... but a bit stressful. Loads of people, including non-captains and noobs entering. The text area was too small and too many people were talking. Some were asking me to die so that they could join the game -- as if we were meant to be playing! Some of the non-captains were useful since they could leave the T-room and search for players like Xevi for Crazy Tronners, and the state of play in matches.&lt;br /&gt;
:Team-captains did the job well though, challenging one another, then setting off to do their matches. However, I think we should have waited until everyone knew who was playing who and where before leaving. The only real way of doing this is building a simple interface with challenge-board, etc so that people could see if they were challenged and whether they accepted etc. Still.. on the whole, it worked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:While using the T-room was problematic it did serve it&#039;s purpose well and its probably the only 100% sure way everyone has to communicate. 2020 took down the chat-server while he played which is understandable but we really need one up at all times for team captains to check in on each other while another match may still be ongoing. THANK YOU for all your work 2020, the ladle would not have been the success it was without you!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Anything else? ===&lt;br /&gt;
;2020&lt;br /&gt;
:Could have done with more matches. Also, losing teams could have played one another. In fact, we probably had time to play a round-robin affair. What was best about it is that we ended up with a winner. We trusted team-captains, and they pulled it off.&lt;br /&gt;
:My wishlist? Somehow keep teams together, maybe with some kind of pre-grid preparation room like the film. If this runs simultaneously to gameplay, you can be playing around in some server, and then when your team is assembled and ready, you are notified and requested to port to the proper server where your team assembles against the opposing team. Also, some kind of software to automate the challenges. The chat-facility was not good enough... too much noise...&lt;br /&gt;
:It is all to do with timing. As a first attempt, I think it was successful. The trick is... how to make it better...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Manta&lt;br /&gt;
:--- Having the ability to lock a server to a certain number of players ahead of time. While letting there be room for a couple of spectators so backup team members can standby but keeping riffraff from joining. --- Letting a small majority successfully kick someone, without having to distract all the players with the vote. --- Have shuffle down AND up enabled to allow team placement. --- Have more servers available. --- Personally I liked the month long idea but I must say having the games all on one day seemed to work better. But this also made it very hectic and with elimination, losing teams only got to play one match after the effort of getting everyone coordinated. --- Over all I&#039;d say the ladle was a great success and everyone had a great time which is most important.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Winners&amp;diff=14327</id>
		<title>Ladle Winners</title>
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		<updated>2006-07-30T00:50:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Finals */&lt;/p&gt;
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The winners of The Second Tronic Ladle played within two hours on 29th July 2006 was... [[anarchic wanderers]]!&lt;br /&gt;
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The second winners of the Tronic Ladle to be played on the 2nd September will be....&lt;br /&gt;
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==Congratulations to the Winners of the Second Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;[[anarchic wanderers]] beat Wraith Squadron in straight matches (3-0) in the final.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;They beat LOL! in straight matches (2-0) in the semifinal.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Full Result of the Second Ladle ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Semi-finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;AW vs LOL at Z-man&#039;s tournament server (2-0)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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AW were Vanhayes (Team Captain), Hay-lin, 2020, Rain and Meriton.&lt;br /&gt;
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* I think we had the advantage over them with respect to ping, with only Vanhayes on our team over 100. This was probably the largest factor. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
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LOL were TitnAss, G5...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;WS vs SP at US Fortress (2-1)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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WS were Blaze, Kamakazi, Me, Manta (Team Captain)&lt;br /&gt;
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SP were...&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;AW vs WS at Z-man&#039;s tournament (3-0)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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AW were Vanhayes (team captain), Hay-lin, 2020, Rain, and Meriton.&lt;br /&gt;
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WS were Ashitaka, BlAzE, Kamakazi, Me, Manta&lt;br /&gt;
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* Again, we had the advantage with most of their team with exorbitant ping. However, they pulled back and brought the game to us in the third match. Meri was left 1v4 about four times in the last match, and he won three of them. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations to the Winners of the First Ladle! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;They beat Wraith Squadron in straight matches (2-0) in the final.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;They beat Anarchic Wanderers in a nail-biting climax after going down in the first match (2-1) in the semi-finals.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*It was a close game. A very close game. Garrisimo was playing like a man on fire, but this still didn&#039;t prevent Shadow League from taking our zone once too often. They came back from first match loss, and in the third match, they came from behind to reach a nail-biting 98-98... well done! I played like a noob, and the rest of my team carried me. Next time... Shadow League... next time.... [[User:2020|2020]] 2nd July 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the first match, zop (who was playing for AW) was doing his usual speed-grinding thing towards or right side and by sheer bad luck, in the confusion of everyone shuffling around, our second (Ossi) and third defender (meriton) were both starting on the left side, whereas our goalie (Sasha) started on the right (IIRC), but due to sealing the center lane ended up on the left as well. To make matters worse, the other players on the right side did not realize they had no defender on their side or simply could not handle zop&#039;s speed grind: They grinded until the last moment, only to be surrounded by the speed-grinding zop, who then directly proceeded to insert himself (and a few friends of his ;) in our zone. Until we finally realised what went wrong, the match was nearly over, with us very much behind. I then shuffled over to the right and - by virtue of splitting real early - managed to delay zop until sasha had had a chance to setup. From then on, the teams were very evenly matched, but with the lead AW had gained, the first match went to them. The second match saw some very close fighting among great players, I don&#039;t recall much except - for the first time I can recall - feeling dwarfed by the great skill surrounding me. Both teams fought well, and as the last round arrived, it became clear that whoever won this round would win the match (both teams were slightly above 90 points IIRC). Luckily for SL, they made it, avoiding to drop out of the tournament by a very narrow margin. The third and final match started with a few rounds going to AW, and again every outcome was possible. After fierce fighting on both sides, both team got more than 90 points at the beginning of the last round (IIRC, it was 96 : 94 for AW). After some minutes, it was 98:96 for AW, and AW began to hunt our weaker players. In doing so, they left their goalie (garisimo) alone, and I was able to slip through to him. I used a standard speed attack, and trying not to leave me any space while still hiding behind his wall, garisimo tripped over his tail, and I was able get inside and claim the zone. At about the same time, one of our attackers got one of his pursuers, so the final score was 110:98 for SL.&lt;br /&gt;
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:On our side, I could chiefly assess the performance of our defense team, were Sasha was a class of his own. Surrounded by 3 players, among which zop and lacka, he managed to hold them off for minutes, never leaving a gap, reclaiming all reachable space, and frequently killing them with his wall&#039;s edges. I was also able to assess the performance of AW&#039;s attack, which was humbling in its skill and coordination. Especially zop, who was chiefly responsible for AW&#039;s victory in the first match and AW&#039;s near victory in the second match, but also lacka and the others who provided who got there slower, but were no less effective once they were close. Never on the grid have I seen such skill, determination, and cooperation, and I can say that it would have been no shame at all to have to have lost that game to AW. [[User:Meriton|Meriton]] 14:54, 2 July 2006 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Well, the first match was intense, I was playing sweeper and helping def untill there were only two enemys left,then I would attack (though the offense didnt really need me, heh). This was a pretty close match, it was (I think) 100 something to 80 something for AW. Unfortunetley this was the only match I got to play, after this one my connection went insane, I couldnt even play a full round without getting disconected. I did get to see the last half of the last round, of the last match where it was 98 AW, 96 SL with SL taking it in the end with a zone capture. Congrats! --[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]] 21:20, 3 July 2006 (ATL) &lt;br /&gt;
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*The first match things were really chaotic for SL. the first 3 matches we played with 6 people so things went a lot slower. i was only able to get a few kills the first 2 matches because id keep getting beat trying to sweep or id make a stupid mistake. the second match we were able to pick up the pace and calm down a little. i think that was a relief to all the players cuz that first loss came so fast and i definetly wasnt expecting it to end that quickly. and then the final match we just did the same thing. i was able to get much more kills the final round. but when i died and it was just two SL&#039;s left. i got scarreeeedd. but badzilla did his thing and broke the defense. i wasnt able to see our defense but im sure they were putting up a huge fight also during those last few seconds. overall just a really tought battle. and the last two matches we were able to cut it close with comebacks. sky&lt;br /&gt;
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*The best matches were SL vs AW. The others were not so hard and so intense. I felt nervous all these 3 matches, so sometimes did stupid mistakes and comited suicide before the meeting with enemy (AW) attackers. However when I met them I did my best. My wife sat near me and squealed each time I lost round...It was fun. I want to give many thanks to Ossi and meri who helped me defend. Also I want to give thanks to the others of my team and to great AW team for such intresting and realy good matches. Sasha&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;They beat Lords of Destruction in straight matches (2-0) in the quarter finals.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*.:thankyou. we played our best and i think the others would agree, AW gave us all a &#039;&#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039;&#039; difficult and stressful match. although we were missing belenus infamous and maverik. meriton and road came on the spot. and badzilla played very well in the AW match. sasha played very nice defense and Ossi played good as sweeper. Mayday and Man2d came in the finals and also played very nicely. and then Choco sub&#039;d in for sasha later that match. thankyou meriton, badzilla, ossi, may.day, man2d, road, sasha, choc, and nazgul for coming to the events. this also goes to show you that there are plenty of nonclan players who know their stuff. To the teams that we did not play: if you guys would like to play us to see how u fare. find me in the games and we&#039;ll try to work something out. and thanks 2020 and the others for organizing this tournament. it was a lot of fun:. sky&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Full Results of the First Ladle ===&lt;br /&gt;
Please write as much info as you know and any game comments you wish to add...&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Quarter-finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Anarchic Wanderers v Speeders at Z-man&#039;s Ladle (2-0)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Anarchic Wanderers were Zop, Eggcozy, Nii, Garissimo, Hay-linn, Vanhayes, Lackadaisical and 2020.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Speeders were Psyko, What-up, Speed, Xell, Blackfang, Joda.bot, Oblivion, and Kenny.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tough game, and I think we caught them cold. With the best of 3, there is not much room for mistakes. Zop I think played well, and somehow he and my team-mates managed to penetrate Psyko&#039;s defence. The midfield was amazing. The skill level high. As part of the defence, it was amazing playing with Eggcozy and Vanhayes... and with Garissimo at the back doing his contracting and expanding, we kept them back for ages giving our offence time to do their magic. I was surprised how fast it went. [[User:2020|2020]] 2nd July 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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* I gotta say Defense was amazing with these Matches, you couldnt ask for better there. I didnt see much of the Offense since I was sweeping, but with Zop, Lackadaisical, and evryone I can guess how it went. Good matches --[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]] 21:25, 3 July 2006 (ATL)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Wraith Squadron v LØL at Bugfarm Fortress (2-1)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Round 1: LØL 84 - WS 106&lt;br /&gt;
* Round 2: LØL 100 - WS 22&lt;br /&gt;
* Round 3: LØL 78 - WS 100&lt;br /&gt;
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Wraith Squadron were BlAzE, Kamakazi, Manta, Me, upacreek.&lt;br /&gt;
Guest stars: Spidey (Only reason Wraith Squadron won)&lt;br /&gt;
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LØL were Wildcat, Chuck, JJBean, G5, Legit, and Durka came in at the 10th round of the 3rd match. Guest stars: Luck and Man2d.&lt;br /&gt;
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The WS and LØL teams agreed to just have a fun and enjoy the game. 6 vs. 6 players.&lt;br /&gt;
Do to there only being 2 ladle servers online we were forced to default to the ever active Bugfarm fortress server.  This caused quite a bit of confusion with visiting players joining the match. Kindly, most willingly left or stayed as spectators. As a note it would be nice to have more fortress servers available to chose from next tournament.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Lords of Destruction v Shadow League at LoD Lords of Destruction Clanserver (0-2)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Lords of Destruction were...&lt;br /&gt;
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The Shadow League were...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Crazy Tronners were not represented so they got into the next round...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Semi-finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Anarchic Wanderers v Shadow League at Z-man&#039;s Ladle (1-2)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Anarchic Wanderers were Zop, Vanhayes, Garissimo, Eggcozy, Haylin, Lackadaisical, 2020, and Durka.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Shadow League were Road66, Sky, Ossi, Man2d, Meriton, Badzilla, Mayday, and Sasha.&lt;br /&gt;
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*(see Congratulations above) We were missing several of our regulars... Ghableska, Madmax, Featherfcuk, TBL... but we did ok in the end with some phenomenal players wearing the [AW] tag. Amazing amount of skill. [[User:2020|2020]] 2nd July 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Wraith Squadron v Crazy Tronners at Bugfarm Fortress (CT do not turn up)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Wraith Squadrn v Shadow League at Z-man&#039;s Ladle (0-2)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Round 1: 48 - 106... Round 2: 62 - 108&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Shadow League were: Road66, Sky, Ossi, Man2d, Meriton, Badzilla, Mayday, Sasha and Choco who substituted for Sasha&lt;br /&gt;
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* Wraith Squadron were: BlAzE, Kamakazi, Manta, Me, upacreek, rain &lt;br /&gt;
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All members of WS would like to congratulate Shadow League on their well earned victory. Their members played an excellent game. WS must admit to being a bit surprised at finishing as the #2 ranked team since we were almost dropped from the tournament for being to small.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to thank those who joined WS in the finals so we could match SL at 7 vs 7. Due to the hectics of the moment I forget who you were but thank you. Since we had not practiced together previously we lost our team cohesion and suffered many team kills, but otherwise did very well considering the quality of players we faced. &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Ladle}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Ladle_Winners&amp;diff=14326</id>
		<title>Ladle Winners</title>
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		<updated>2006-07-30T00:48:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Semi-finals */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
The winners of The Second Tronic Ladle played within two hours on 29th July 2006 was... [[anarchic wanderers]]!&lt;br /&gt;
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The second winners of the Tronic Ladle to be played on the 2nd September will be....&lt;br /&gt;
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==Congratulations to the Winners of the Second Ladle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;[[anarchic wanderers]] beat Wraith Squadron in straight matches (3-0) in the final.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;They beat LOL! in straight matches (2-0) in the semifinal.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Full Result of the Second Ladle ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Semi-finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;AW vs LOL at Z-man&#039;s tournament server (2-0)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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AW were Vanhayes (Team Captain), Hay-lin, 2020, Rain and Meriton.&lt;br /&gt;
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* I think we had the advantage over them with respect to ping, with only Vanhayes on our team over 100. This was probably the largest factor. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
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LOL were TitnAss, G5...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;WS vs SP at US Fortress (2-1)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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WS were Blaze, Kamakazi, Me, Manta (Team Captain)&lt;br /&gt;
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SP were...&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;AW vs WS at Z-man&#039;s tournament (3-0)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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AW were Vanhayes (team captain), Hay-lin, 2020, Rain, and Meriton.&lt;br /&gt;
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WS were Manta...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Again, we had the advantage with most of their team with exorbitant ping. However, they pulled back and brought the game to us in the third match. Meri was left 1v4 about four times in the last match, and he won three of them. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations to the Winners of the First Ladle! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;They beat Wraith Squadron in straight matches (2-0) in the final.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;They beat Anarchic Wanderers in a nail-biting climax after going down in the first match (2-1) in the semi-finals.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*It was a close game. A very close game. Garrisimo was playing like a man on fire, but this still didn&#039;t prevent Shadow League from taking our zone once too often. They came back from first match loss, and in the third match, they came from behind to reach a nail-biting 98-98... well done! I played like a noob, and the rest of my team carried me. Next time... Shadow League... next time.... [[User:2020|2020]] 2nd July 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the first match, zop (who was playing for AW) was doing his usual speed-grinding thing towards or right side and by sheer bad luck, in the confusion of everyone shuffling around, our second (Ossi) and third defender (meriton) were both starting on the left side, whereas our goalie (Sasha) started on the right (IIRC), but due to sealing the center lane ended up on the left as well. To make matters worse, the other players on the right side did not realize they had no defender on their side or simply could not handle zop&#039;s speed grind: They grinded until the last moment, only to be surrounded by the speed-grinding zop, who then directly proceeded to insert himself (and a few friends of his ;) in our zone. Until we finally realised what went wrong, the match was nearly over, with us very much behind. I then shuffled over to the right and - by virtue of splitting real early - managed to delay zop until sasha had had a chance to setup. From then on, the teams were very evenly matched, but with the lead AW had gained, the first match went to them. The second match saw some very close fighting among great players, I don&#039;t recall much except - for the first time I can recall - feeling dwarfed by the great skill surrounding me. Both teams fought well, and as the last round arrived, it became clear that whoever won this round would win the match (both teams were slightly above 90 points IIRC). Luckily for SL, they made it, avoiding to drop out of the tournament by a very narrow margin. The third and final match started with a few rounds going to AW, and again every outcome was possible. After fierce fighting on both sides, both team got more than 90 points at the beginning of the last round (IIRC, it was 96 : 94 for AW). After some minutes, it was 98:96 for AW, and AW began to hunt our weaker players. In doing so, they left their goalie (garisimo) alone, and I was able to slip through to him. I used a standard speed attack, and trying not to leave me any space while still hiding behind his wall, garisimo tripped over his tail, and I was able get inside and claim the zone. At about the same time, one of our attackers got one of his pursuers, so the final score was 110:98 for SL.&lt;br /&gt;
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:On our side, I could chiefly assess the performance of our defense team, were Sasha was a class of his own. Surrounded by 3 players, among which zop and lacka, he managed to hold them off for minutes, never leaving a gap, reclaiming all reachable space, and frequently killing them with his wall&#039;s edges. I was also able to assess the performance of AW&#039;s attack, which was humbling in its skill and coordination. Especially zop, who was chiefly responsible for AW&#039;s victory in the first match and AW&#039;s near victory in the second match, but also lacka and the others who provided who got there slower, but were no less effective once they were close. Never on the grid have I seen such skill, determination, and cooperation, and I can say that it would have been no shame at all to have to have lost that game to AW. [[User:Meriton|Meriton]] 14:54, 2 July 2006 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Well, the first match was intense, I was playing sweeper and helping def untill there were only two enemys left,then I would attack (though the offense didnt really need me, heh). This was a pretty close match, it was (I think) 100 something to 80 something for AW. Unfortunetley this was the only match I got to play, after this one my connection went insane, I couldnt even play a full round without getting disconected. I did get to see the last half of the last round, of the last match where it was 98 AW, 96 SL with SL taking it in the end with a zone capture. Congrats! --[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]] 21:20, 3 July 2006 (ATL) &lt;br /&gt;
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*The first match things were really chaotic for SL. the first 3 matches we played with 6 people so things went a lot slower. i was only able to get a few kills the first 2 matches because id keep getting beat trying to sweep or id make a stupid mistake. the second match we were able to pick up the pace and calm down a little. i think that was a relief to all the players cuz that first loss came so fast and i definetly wasnt expecting it to end that quickly. and then the final match we just did the same thing. i was able to get much more kills the final round. but when i died and it was just two SL&#039;s left. i got scarreeeedd. but badzilla did his thing and broke the defense. i wasnt able to see our defense but im sure they were putting up a huge fight also during those last few seconds. overall just a really tought battle. and the last two matches we were able to cut it close with comebacks. sky&lt;br /&gt;
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*The best matches were SL vs AW. The others were not so hard and so intense. I felt nervous all these 3 matches, so sometimes did stupid mistakes and comited suicide before the meeting with enemy (AW) attackers. However when I met them I did my best. My wife sat near me and squealed each time I lost round...It was fun. I want to give many thanks to Ossi and meri who helped me defend. Also I want to give thanks to the others of my team and to great AW team for such intresting and realy good matches. Sasha&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;They beat Lords of Destruction in straight matches (2-0) in the quarter finals.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*.:thankyou. we played our best and i think the others would agree, AW gave us all a &#039;&#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039;&#039; difficult and stressful match. although we were missing belenus infamous and maverik. meriton and road came on the spot. and badzilla played very well in the AW match. sasha played very nice defense and Ossi played good as sweeper. Mayday and Man2d came in the finals and also played very nicely. and then Choco sub&#039;d in for sasha later that match. thankyou meriton, badzilla, ossi, may.day, man2d, road, sasha, choc, and nazgul for coming to the events. this also goes to show you that there are plenty of nonclan players who know their stuff. To the teams that we did not play: if you guys would like to play us to see how u fare. find me in the games and we&#039;ll try to work something out. and thanks 2020 and the others for organizing this tournament. it was a lot of fun:. sky&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Full Results of the First Ladle ===&lt;br /&gt;
Please write as much info as you know and any game comments you wish to add...&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Quarter-finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Anarchic Wanderers v Speeders at Z-man&#039;s Ladle (2-0)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Anarchic Wanderers were Zop, Eggcozy, Nii, Garissimo, Hay-linn, Vanhayes, Lackadaisical and 2020.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Speeders were Psyko, What-up, Speed, Xell, Blackfang, Joda.bot, Oblivion, and Kenny.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tough game, and I think we caught them cold. With the best of 3, there is not much room for mistakes. Zop I think played well, and somehow he and my team-mates managed to penetrate Psyko&#039;s defence. The midfield was amazing. The skill level high. As part of the defence, it was amazing playing with Eggcozy and Vanhayes... and with Garissimo at the back doing his contracting and expanding, we kept them back for ages giving our offence time to do their magic. I was surprised how fast it went. [[User:2020|2020]] 2nd July 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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* I gotta say Defense was amazing with these Matches, you couldnt ask for better there. I didnt see much of the Offense since I was sweeping, but with Zop, Lackadaisical, and evryone I can guess how it went. Good matches --[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]] 21:25, 3 July 2006 (ATL)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Wraith Squadron v LØL at Bugfarm Fortress (2-1)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Round 1: LØL 84 - WS 106&lt;br /&gt;
* Round 2: LØL 100 - WS 22&lt;br /&gt;
* Round 3: LØL 78 - WS 100&lt;br /&gt;
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Wraith Squadron were BlAzE, Kamakazi, Manta, Me, upacreek.&lt;br /&gt;
Guest stars: Spidey (Only reason Wraith Squadron won)&lt;br /&gt;
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LØL were Wildcat, Chuck, JJBean, G5, Legit, and Durka came in at the 10th round of the 3rd match. Guest stars: Luck and Man2d.&lt;br /&gt;
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The WS and LØL teams agreed to just have a fun and enjoy the game. 6 vs. 6 players.&lt;br /&gt;
Do to there only being 2 ladle servers online we were forced to default to the ever active Bugfarm fortress server.  This caused quite a bit of confusion with visiting players joining the match. Kindly, most willingly left or stayed as spectators. As a note it would be nice to have more fortress servers available to chose from next tournament.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Lords of Destruction v Shadow League at LoD Lords of Destruction Clanserver (0-2)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Lords of Destruction were...&lt;br /&gt;
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The Shadow League were...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Crazy Tronners were not represented so they got into the next round...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Semi-finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Anarchic Wanderers v Shadow League at Z-man&#039;s Ladle (1-2)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Anarchic Wanderers were Zop, Vanhayes, Garissimo, Eggcozy, Haylin, Lackadaisical, 2020, and Durka.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Shadow League were Road66, Sky, Ossi, Man2d, Meriton, Badzilla, Mayday, and Sasha.&lt;br /&gt;
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*(see Congratulations above) We were missing several of our regulars... Ghableska, Madmax, Featherfcuk, TBL... but we did ok in the end with some phenomenal players wearing the [AW] tag. Amazing amount of skill. [[User:2020|2020]] 2nd July 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Wraith Squadron v Crazy Tronners at Bugfarm Fortress (CT do not turn up)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Finals ====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Wraith Squadrn v Shadow League at Z-man&#039;s Ladle (0-2)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Round 1: 48 - 106... Round 2: 62 - 108&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Shadow League were: Road66, Sky, Ossi, Man2d, Meriton, Badzilla, Mayday, Sasha and Choco who substituted for Sasha&lt;br /&gt;
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* Wraith Squadron were: BlAzE, Kamakazi, Manta, Me, upacreek, rain &lt;br /&gt;
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All members of WS would like to congratulate Shadow League on their well earned victory. Their members played an excellent game. WS must admit to being a bit surprised at finishing as the #2 ranked team since we were almost dropped from the tournament for being to small.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to thank those who joined WS in the finals so we could match SL at 7 vs 7. Due to the hectics of the moment I forget who you were but thank you. Since we had not practiced together previously we lost our team cohesion and suffered many team kills, but otherwise did very well considering the quality of players we faced. &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Ladle}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14319</id>
		<title>Challenge Room</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14319"/>
		<updated>2006-07-29T21:22:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Challenge Board */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Based on [[Ladle Feedback]], we are experimenting with another way of self-organising the competition. &#039;&#039;&#039;The responsibilities of Team Captains have altered&#039;&#039;&#039; and they are encouraged to use the &#039;&#039;&#039;Challenge Board&#039;&#039;&#039; below to establish the provisional games to be played that night. Team Captains should still visit a common chat-room to ensure all teams turn up and deal with any problems that may arise. If the preparations are abused in any way, then let us rely on Team Captains to organise it as they did in the first Ladle.&lt;br /&gt;
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One critical problem to solve this time round: recruiting last-minute. I was most disheartened to discover that one of AW&#039;s established team-mates was effectively locked out of a server because it was full. We must be more careful about last-minute additions, as well as recognise that without these last-minute recruits the Ladle would have crashed at the outset. So... any practical suggestions..? See Last Minute Solutions below. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Team Captains ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following team list is from the previous [[LADLE team-lists]], and all captains must put their names here to prepare for the night. Please make sure you have a reasonable form of communication with your team-mates, whether it is IRC, Skype, Team-speak, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* anarchic wanderers - garissimo&lt;br /&gt;
* speeders - [[User:joda|Contact:joda.bot]] (writing thesis, though)&lt;br /&gt;
* Wraith Squadron - Manta&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://tron.plantpeanuts.co.uk/portal.php CrazyTronners] - Xevi&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://teamlol.tk ¡LØL!] - Durka&lt;br /&gt;
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== T-room chat-room ==&lt;br /&gt;
Team Captains use the chat-room to register their team: their team is assembled at the appropriate server and they are ready to play. Team Captains should register at 9, 9.45, 10.30 and 11.15pm GMT. That is, at the beginning of every round...&lt;br /&gt;
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If the Team Captains verify the listing of teams on the Challenge Board below at the first meeting at 9pm GMT, then the competition should run smoothly. If things get messy, then we must resort to trusting one another and allowing Team Captains the opportunity to challenge other teams and allocating servers on the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Team Captains should familiarise themselves with [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/cgi-bin/irc.cgi?adv=1 Joda&#039;s web interface] or connect to our [[IRC Channel]] using any [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_clients IRC client].&#039;&#039;&#039; If there&#039;s a need for private talk between teams they can make their own channel or use private messages.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Challenge Board ==&lt;br /&gt;
A provisional play-off sequence is provided below. Please note, it is for Team Captains to issue challenges by locating their [[LADLE team-lists|teams]] appropriately on the board. If they can not do this here, they will have to do it on the day in less than 5 mins, so... be cool and be brave...&lt;br /&gt;
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Write down the placement of your team. Your placement of the team determines who you are playing in the first round and subsequent rounds if you win. Check this listing ocassionally, alter your team-place if you wish, until it settles and we are ready to play on Sat 29th.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not replace another team-name with yours. Fill only spaces. In this way, Team Captains have a way of jockeying for position.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Team 1 is... [[anarchic wanderers]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 2 is... SpeederS&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 3 is... LOLers&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 4 is... Wraith Squadron&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5 is... &lt;br /&gt;
* Team 6 is... &lt;br /&gt;
* Team 7 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 8 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 10 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 11 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 12 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 14 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 15 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 16 is...&lt;br /&gt;
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== Provisional Play-offs ==&lt;br /&gt;
Do not insert names of teams here. This is merely the structure and timing of the games. The actual teams which will be playing against one another will be based on the Challenge Board above and the Team Captains which register their teams at 9pm GMT on Sat 29th July.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note, the server allocation may change, especially as we move through into the quarters and semi finals depending on Team Captain discussion on the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note also, we might by-pass the first round if we only have 8 teams... so be sensible Team Captains when choosing where to allocate your team in the Challenge Board above.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== First Round 9pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 3 challenges Team 4 on Lords of Destruction Clan Server&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5 challenges Team 6 on Crazy Tronners Jedi Battle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 7 challenges Team 8 on US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9 challenges Team 10 on Bugfarm Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 11 challenges Team 12 on Shadow League VPS Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13 challenges Team 14 on Shadow League Dedicated Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 15 challenges Team 16 on ?? wrtl&#039;s or someone else&#039;s ??&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Quarter Finals 9.45pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Crazy Tronners Jedi Battle Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9/10 challenges Team 11/12 Bugfarm Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13/14 challenges Team 15/16 Shadow League Dedicated Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Semi Finals 10.30pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9/10/11/12 challenges Team 13/14/15/16 Bugfarm Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Finals 11.15pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8 challenges Team 9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Last-minute Solutions ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following solutions need to be aired... check them out... and we must decide on one of them before the big day.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Captain&#039;s Lock ===&lt;br /&gt;
One simple rule: The Captains are the last player of their team to enter the server, and by doing so, they will fill the server and effectively lock it. That is, a match will only start when both Team Captains have entered the grid.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the time the Captain is out of the server, there can only be a maximum of 7 players since team-mates need to leave a space for the captain. Hence, the server will always remain open for last-minute additions and for late team-mates to join.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Team Captain should be in some form of communication with team-mates, whether it is a chat-room, team-speak, Skype, IRC, or whatever. They should know how many players have turned up for the day&#039;s play. If they have a full team, then everything will run smoothly, visiting the Captain&#039;s T-room to register and then returning to play the match. If, however, they lack a player or two, they have the opportunity of going around the different servers and doing some last minute recruiting. Their team should fill out and eventually the other team-mates will tell the captain they have 7 players and the Captain can return to the server, being the 8th member of the team, filling the server, and thus starting the match.&lt;br /&gt;
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This system should allow the flexibility for team-mates who are a little late. If, while the Team-Captain is out recruiting, a regular team-mate arrives, the team can ask any last-minute additions to leave, while still retaining the space for the 8th player -- the Team Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
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== a.o.b. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== max number of players ===&lt;br /&gt;
(Will the player count be locked at 8 plus spectators? Alowing a few exra spectators really helps with switching out team mates mid game.) Otherwise sounds good to me. -- Manta&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure... thought it was maximum of 16 in a server. I just don&#039;t want regular players locked out of a match like Madmax was in the last tournament. I had no way of knowing he was waiting outside. Also, one of the major delays was waiting for players to attend. I think we should be super-strict about time and everything else should follow. I agree about spectators, or subs -- but does the standard fortress settings enable a few extra spectators before being filled? [[User:2020|2020]].&lt;br /&gt;
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=== US Servers  ===&lt;br /&gt;
I notice that for Quarter Finals and After all the servers listed are European. During the Last ladle Bugfarm was very busy with looky loos do to that being the usual server people play on. Perhaps after the first round the US server could replace bugfarm on the list. Most US player average around 100 ping vs European players getting 30 - 60 on local servers so it seems that would be more than fair. Plus concidering Durka&#039;s pionts in the Feedback section. - GREAT job laying out the page 2020, it just gets better and better.&lt;br /&gt;
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Good thinking... the actual server matches are played on should be decided by the team captains with only provisional listings above. Wraith Squadron has already chosen to be Team 8 which means they want to play on the US server and it would make sense to have the continuity of the US server with Quarters between Team 5/6 v Team 7/8 and semi&#039;s Team 1/2/3/4 v Team 5/6/7/8... though I see no problem in adding it to the options for the Quarter Finals and later. Does this make sense? Please remember this is all just provisional to assist Team Captains make their decisions on the day as quickly and as efficiently as possible without anyone being in charge. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If someone wants to give me a yell a day or two before the Ladle I can offer up Swamplords Teams as a US server and increase MAX_CLIENTS, change admin pass and give it to the team captains who will use it.  Lag is a serious concern on my server though.  It didn&#039;t get much play during the SPOON because of that.  --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 23:21, 27 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Potential time conflict with ITW ==&lt;br /&gt;
The Germany - USA ITW match starts one hour before the Ladle and is best of five, so there is a chance (small, admittedly) that it will last longer than one hour (the UK - A2 match did). Many players are registered for both tournaments. Seeing that there are only four teams here and the schedule allows for three stages, perhaps it would be a good idea to simply skip stage one and start at 9:45 GMT? Pushing the Ladle backwards sounds like a better idea than pulling ITW forward. I&#039;m not blaming anyone for the collision.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
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With only 4 teams registered so far, it looks like we swing straight into the semi&#039;s at 10.30pm GMT. No problem. &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:2020|2020]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
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		<title>International Tron World Cup</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* United States of America */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;!-- Please do not add anymore font tags or colors of any kind to this page, I&#039;ll remove them. [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 19:14, 8 July 2006 (CEST) --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Rules ==&lt;br /&gt;
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All fortress players can participate in this tournament. Just post your name under the name of your country. Please write your name without clan tags.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is organized in countries, if your country isn&#039;t here, edit this page and add it. It will be nice if you respect the alphabetic order. &#039;&#039;&#039;The country has to exist!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Maybe if the team grows a lot it can make 2 teams, like east and west, it goes 4 usa :P, plz no invented names.&lt;br /&gt;
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After all interested players register we will update this page with all the instructions of the tournament. Meanwhile here are some details:&lt;br /&gt;
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The main plan is that it will be a fortress tournament, played in play-offs mode, when teams are ready, there will be a picture showing the brackets of the road to Tron World Cup. And if it is possible we will try to respect football world cup brackets :D&lt;br /&gt;
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In case of some countries goes short, there will be a alliances, the way they will be is trying to join to another geo-near (example: spain+portugal-&amp;gt;iberia, austria+switc-&amp;gt;alps, nordics, ...) or just fusion with other short team (we will try to respect issues like belgium and netherland one :P).&lt;br /&gt;
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A short team will be one with less than 5 players, this will be the minimum numbers of players to play a match.&lt;br /&gt;
*No more players allowed to register&lt;br /&gt;
*The specified country will play with the amount of players that have registered here.&lt;br /&gt;
*All cw in TWC-ITW server, it has good pings for both,america has 180 ping, not so bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*Suggestions will be considered on the next TWC in 4 months-&amp;gt;&amp;gt;24 november&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Further details can be found on the&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;[http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc Official Tron World Cup Website]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Groups and Brackets ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;rArr; [[International_Tron_World_Cup_Groups|Groups &amp;amp; Brackets]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comments/suggestions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Rules ===&lt;br /&gt;
I have a few suggestions to make the tourney a little fairer, 1. If one team has more players than the other team, the team with more should only use as many as the other team has.(min number 5)I thought that was standard practice, though I guess not. 2. switch between using a european and a north american server, so no one country has an unfair ping advantage. Maybe use US fortress for North america(good/fast connection), and stick with ITW server for the european server--[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the suggestions. My inclination is not to change anything now the competition has started, but certainly these things will be taken into consideration for the next world cup. Having said that, would NAFTA be happy for Vanhayes&#039; change 1 to be implemented for the rest of this world cup on the understanding that there would &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; be a rematch?--[[User:Dez|Dez]] 18:11, 24 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Changing that player count rule, but not repeating the match that was messed up by it would strongly support the theory that the rule was pulled out of AdY-Lucifer&#039;s hat at match start for the single purpose of bashing down NAFTA. I see three acceptable ways to proceed: The best thing would be to get rid of the rule and repeat the NAFTA-Germany match, Friday would be a possible time slot. The two other possibilities would be to stick to the rule for the rest of the tournament, or to change the rule, but to remove AdY-Lucifer from the Spanish team to demonstrate the rule change isn&#039;t happening for his personal benefit (with eight players, his team would likely be put to a disadvantage by the original rule as well at some point).--[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::i said that nothing will be changed on this twc.rules werent changed after the first match of twc , what re u screaming about z? -- AdY-Lucifer&lt;br /&gt;
::::Please sign your posts. -- [[User:Nemostultae|nemostultae]] 20:38, 26 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I&#039;m not screaming, SCREAMING LOOKS LIKE THIS. And I&#039;m refering to Dez&#039;s suggestion to indeed change the rules during this first tournament. Let me elaborate, sorry if this gets offensive, but there is no other way of explaining: The player count rule is stupid and unfair, and a blind monkey with brain damage could see it. You were asked explicitly about how different team sizes will be handled on the forum (where you&#039;re not banned, btw), but gave no answer. The rest of us only knew the rule when it was, apparently, too late to argue. Now, there are two possible explanations: 1. You&#039;re stupid and incompetent and 2. you&#039;re corrupt, using your position of power in this tournament to put unwanted teams/players at an disadvantage. Right now, &amp;quot;Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity&amp;quot; applies, and explanation 1 wins. Should you however change the rule now, this would strongly suggests the decision to let Germany play with seven players was just an ad-hoc decision to kick out NAFTA, and the rule was crafted afterwards. This would give theory 2 a head. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::::What the hell, ady? We were told in the second match (USA vs Alliance 1) that we couldn&#039;t play with six because the teams wouldn&#039;t been even anymore. But now i see the Russia vs Spain match was played 6v1! This is really unacceptable. How can you say at one game that rule is &#039;play with the people that show up&#039;, then change to &#039;the teams have to be even&#039; in the next game and then change back again in the third(+ignoring the rule that states a team has to have a minimum of 5 players). This only really supports Z-mans #2 theory since you were in the larger team of the third game. --[[User:Lackadaisical|Lackadaisical]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Is this true? Spain vs Russia 6 vs 1? Are there recordings or server logs that can be reviewed? --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
Ok, it is true, their page shows it. Now, the question is, why wasn&#039;t it 5 vs 1? I see and believe that Sasha apparently didn&#039;t mind playing alone. But, in the Germany vs NAFTA match, we were told we were allowed to play with 7 people because NAFTA registered with 7; we showed up with eight, IIRC. Now, Russia registered with 5, so either I&#039;m missing something here (perhaps you played with the implicit rule that you&#039;d attack Sasha one at a time?) or Spain was playing with one player too many, according to the rule applied at the first match. I guess I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;d like an explanation. From DeZ, if possible, he seems to be the sensible one. All this doesn&#039;t make sense to me, unless I adopt one of the two theories as the most likely explanation. At the very least, the statements made here by AdY were *slightly* inaccurate and incomplete. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The problem here is simply that the rules aren&#039;t nearly clear enough and don&#039;t cater for the circumstances we found ourselves in. On the two occasions I was in charge (USA v Alliance 1 and Spain v Russia) I took the approach that it was better to try and keep both teams happy than worry about exactly what the rules said.&lt;br /&gt;
:In the case of USA v Alliance 1, there were 5 players in each team during the first match. However, part-way through the second match, a 6th Alliance 1 player (a1|Goodkoen) arrived. I felt it unfair that he should join the team with the match underway and allowed the USA another team member (gengis) to balance the teams. Gengis was not from the US, but had not registered to play in another World Cup team. Both teams agreed to him playing.&lt;br /&gt;
:Following that decision, I offered Sasha the option to make up numbers in the same way, but (s)he turned this down, opting to play alone. Following the rules here would have meant defaulting Russia on the basis that they didn&#039;t have five players. Given that people had turned up wanting a match and Sasha was willing to play, I let the match go ahead. Sasha came up with some inventive and entertaining techniques to cope with the onslaught of Spanish cycles, but the inevitable happened and after two matches of this, Sasha decided that there was no point in continuing.&lt;br /&gt;
:I understand peoples&#039; concerns about the fairness of the competition, but please bear with us: we&#039;re new to this! We will have clearer rules set out in plenty of time for the next Tron World Cup and I hope people will give us constructive feedback on them so that any problems can be ironed out before the start of the competition. --[[User:Dez|Dez]] 17:57, 27 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Um fairness?? where was teh fairness in uk vs a1...or germany vs nafta?? in a way changing something to make it &amp;quot;fair&amp;quot; isn&#039;t very fair for the others who have already played...is it?  --BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
:: Would now be a good time to mention that Legit was banned from the server when we asked him to join?  I&#039;m willing to allow for being new to running a tournament if you&#039;re willing to learn from other tournaments, and there have been 2 recent tournaments that have learned these lessons already.  I&#039;m starting to lean towards the Kill NAFTA Conspiracy theory myself, you may have been fair Dez, but it was Ady-Lucifer watching over the NAFTA/Germany match, and if you ask me, the NAFTA team played waaaay better than the Germany team, even if we lost.  Ideally, you&#039;d want the team that plays the best to be the team that wins the match, and in a point-based system you already have problems determining that.  Then throwing on additional advantages to one team skewers the result even further.  If they played so well as to deserve to advance, the point spread shouldn&#039;t be as close as it was.  --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 23:14, 27 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Dez: Thanks, that clears some things up. I&#039;d still say Spain vs Russia should have been 5 vs 1, but can file that under beginner&#039;s trouble. I think nobody has any objections against the USA vs A1 match, it only serves as a contrast to the less fair matches. Your post also sheds light on the admin structure. So far, I thought you were the technical admin and Ady the political decision maker. I assume Ady was in charge of UK vs A2? Because that one seemed to be 7 vs 5, and again Legit was present and I just assume he would have played for A2 if allowed to. I&#039;d then have a request: could you, and not Ady, manage the rest of the matches? Looks like even when UK is playing, you&#039;d make the better decisions, and it&#039;s no problem for me to live with stupid rules if the person in charge is willing to override them. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Another thing, today&#039;s (29th) match has a potential collision with the Ladle tournament if it goes as long as the UK-A2 one. The Ladle is supposed to start at 9 GMT. Germany will have three players potentially leaving for the Ladle, USA will have three players NOT potentially leaving. It could help if we make it an exceptional &amp;quot;best of three&amp;quot; match. I&#039;ll also post on the Ladle page to see if the schedule can be moved backwards. I&#039;m not blaming anyone for this collision. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
:with only four teams signed up for the ladle, we should only have to conduct the finals at 11.15pm, and semi&#039;s at 10.30pm gmt... if the team-captains organise their teams... if the players turn up... so shouldn&#039;t be a problem [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Great, that should suffice. I withdraw the request to make G - US a best of three match. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
I also noticed that you intend to run the World Cup sometime later in the year. So, what is the title of this World Cup? Is it the 2006 World Cup, or what? [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Can&#039;t connect with 0.2.8.1?! ===&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems as if the ITW server doesn&#039;t run for 2.8.1--[[User:AshitakA|AshitakA]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I just hacked a 0.2.8.1 client to pretend to be a newer (network) version than it actually is, and had no trouble playing there.&lt;br /&gt;
:It looks like the responsible setting is &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;CYCLE_DIST_WALL_SHRINK&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; (not to confuse with &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; which the server admins refuse to set). My hacked client complains it received an unknown config of that name, but if I go in with a more recent version and check the value it is still 0 (the default). So actually the server has no reason to block newer clients. Z-man, any ideas? &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 12:50, 29 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Addition: Could one of the server admins grep their logs for that setting? If it blocks out clients because of that it should say someting like &amp;quot;[0] Setting CYCLE_DIST_WALL_SHRINK (Group: Bumpy) deviates from its default value; clients older than 0.2.8.2 will be blocked out.&amp;quot;. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 12:57, 29 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The culprit is at the moment CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK, it&#039;s set to 1. Could the admin also set CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK_OVERRIDE 0? That would allow 0.2.8.1 and earlier on. Wrtl: to avoid excessive message spamming, only one unknown setting is ever printed, and settings are transfered whether they deviate from the default or not (otherwise, it would never be possible to change the default).&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Teams ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Alliance 1 (Austria, Canada, France and Netherlands) ===&lt;br /&gt;
*1394-freak&lt;br /&gt;
*JJBean&lt;br /&gt;
*BaTTaL&lt;br /&gt;
*Voodoo&lt;br /&gt;
*k3nny&lt;br /&gt;
*Lackadaisical&lt;br /&gt;
*freako&lt;br /&gt;
*Goodkoen&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Alliance 2 (Switzerland, Portugal, Poland, Mexico, Italy) ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Drashia&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Cusco|cusco]] (PORTUGAL - going away on the 28th for 2 weeks)&lt;br /&gt;
*madmax&lt;br /&gt;
*WebGamer&lt;br /&gt;
* newbie&lt;br /&gt;
* sebol158&lt;br /&gt;
*the godfather (italy sicily player)&lt;br /&gt;
*Tidus (possibly dont will be there)&lt;br /&gt;
*~Super Daddy~&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Germany ===&lt;br /&gt;
Link: [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/wbboard/thread.php?boardid=3&amp;amp;threadid=903&amp;amp;page=1#13 Team Germany]&lt;br /&gt;
*Fr34k(y)&lt;br /&gt;
*Blader&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Pta|PTA]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Z-Man&lt;br /&gt;
*~*Mephisto*~&lt;br /&gt;
*$ubzero&lt;br /&gt;
*Slayer&lt;br /&gt;
*H.A.K.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sefgu&lt;br /&gt;
*Tronfreak&lt;br /&gt;
*Alien&lt;br /&gt;
*Narrow&lt;br /&gt;
*dyyXy!!&lt;br /&gt;
*AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
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=== North American Free Tron Alliance (NAFTA) ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Lucifer&lt;br /&gt;
* BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
* anjori&lt;br /&gt;
* BaTTaL&lt;br /&gt;
* knojf&lt;br /&gt;
* Vanhayes &lt;br /&gt;
* [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;See [[Talk:International Tron World Cup]] for discussion&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Russia ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Ossi&lt;br /&gt;
*Sasha&lt;br /&gt;
*badzilla&lt;br /&gt;
*doc&lt;br /&gt;
*man2d&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Spain.jpg|left|30px]]&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spain ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Ady-Lucifer (From Cantabria, aka Hell)&lt;br /&gt;
*ORiON(From Seville, Andalucía)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:ChiCho|ChiCho]] (From Motril, Andalucia)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Xevic|Xevi]] (From Barcelona, Catalunya [[Image:CAT.gif]])&lt;br /&gt;
*AuRoN (From Jerez, Andalucia)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:ArcBeetle|ArcBeetle]] (From Cordoba, Andalucia)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:kakashi|Kakashi]] ( From Jerez, Andalucia )&lt;br /&gt;
*Alf (From Jaén, Andalucía)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4264/ukflag01rp6.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
=== United Kingdom === &lt;br /&gt;
*ed (From Wales)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:X3r|X3R]] (be AFRAID!)&lt;br /&gt;
*)(Alex)(&lt;br /&gt;
*Infamous&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Syllabear|Syllabear]] (From N.Ireland)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Dez|Dez]] (From England)&lt;br /&gt;
*Sleepy&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyroto&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*2020 (currently in scotland)&lt;br /&gt;
*Pez&lt;br /&gt;
*Harlequin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Xell|Xell]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sp33D&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;hould be ableto play every match go UK!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
@ Alex and Infamous, show some dignity. Temp ban of 1 day... would have been a week except for the fact you might need to post something to support your team --[[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 18:19, 27 July 2006 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== United States of America ===&lt;br /&gt;
*gArIsImO&lt;br /&gt;
*Wildcat(Probably cant make it because of work.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
*Chuck (I&#039;ll probably make it, since I have no life and stay at home all day :(, What time EST?)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Durka|Dµrkå]] (99.99999999% chance I won&#039;t make it)&lt;br /&gt;
*Manta&lt;br /&gt;
*PsYkO WEWT&lt;br /&gt;
*Pandemonium&lt;br /&gt;
*Legit&lt;br /&gt;
*eclipse &lt;br /&gt;
*Stewie! (most likely will not make a very high percentage of not making it.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Kyle (may not make it)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Oblivion Muahahaha!]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tits&lt;br /&gt;
*Skip&lt;br /&gt;
*Play&lt;br /&gt;
*genesis&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14316</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14316"/>
		<updated>2006-07-29T18:58:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;&#039;LADLE NOTES&#039;&#039;&#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Holes-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as  holes, if you see one and you think you can safely make it GO FOR IT. However unless you are SURE your partner can take the zone successfully DON&#039;T make a hole. We are better off having you alive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Win zone-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We won&#039;t take the win zone unless the other team is gong for it, If they do all rules are off, make them sorry any way you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Placement- &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Manta probably needs to be on the out side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Defender-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BlAzE is defender, kamakazi is backup, if one dies head back, don&#039;t leave defense alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Things can change so use your judgment as to what needs to be done and where you will be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We had a great practice Sunday, we still have some things that need work, Me was able to attend so only one we are waiting on is Ecky-Thump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 6PM PST - 9PM EST - 1AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14236</id>
		<title>Challenge Room</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14236"/>
		<updated>2006-07-27T04:04:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Challenge Board */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Based on [[Ladle Feedback]], we are experimenting with another way of self-organising the competition. &#039;&#039;&#039;The responsibilities of Team Captains have altered&#039;&#039;&#039; and they are encouraged to use the &#039;&#039;&#039;Challenge Board&#039;&#039;&#039; below to establish the provisional games to be played that night. Team Captains should still visit a common chat-room to ensure all teams turn up and deal with any problems that may arise. If the preparations are abused in any way, then let us rely on Team Captains to organise it as they did in the first Ladle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One critical problem to solve this time round: recruiting last-minute. I was most disheartened to discover that one of AW&#039;s established team-mates was effectively locked out of a server because it was full. We must be more careful about last-minute additions, as well as recognise that without these last-minute recruits the Ladle would have crashed at the outset. So... any practical suggestions..? See Last Minute Solutions below. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Team Captains ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following team list is from the previous [[LADLE team-lists]], and all captains must put their names here to prepare for the night. Please make sure you have a reasonable form of communication with your team-mates, whether it is IRC, Skype, Team-speak, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* anarchic wanderers - garissimo&lt;br /&gt;
* speeders - PsYkO (gogodsmackgo@hotmail.com)&lt;br /&gt;
* Wraith Squadron - Manta&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://tron.plantpeanuts.co.uk/portal.php CrazyTronners] - Xevi&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://teamlol.tk ¡LØL!] - Durka&lt;br /&gt;
* apocalypse_legion - freako&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== T-room chat-room ==&lt;br /&gt;
Team Captains use the chat-room to register their team: their team is assembled at the appropriate server and they are ready to play. Team Captains should register at 9, 9.45, 10.30 and 11.15pm GMT. That is, at the beginning of every round...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the Team Captains verify the listing of teams on the Challenge Board below at the first meeting at 9pm GMT, then the competition should run smoothly. If things get messy, then we must resort to trusting one another and allowing Team Captains the opportunity to challenge other teams and allocating servers on the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Team Captains should familiarise themselves with [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/cgi-bin/irc.cgi?adv=1 Joda&#039;s web interface].&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Challenge Board ==&lt;br /&gt;
A provisional play-off sequence is provided below. Please note, it is for Team Captains to issue challenges by locating their [[LADLE team-lists|teams]] appropriately on the board. If they can not do this here, they will have to do it on the day in less than 5 mins, so... be cool and be brave...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Write down the placement of your team. Your placement of the team determines who you are playing in the first round and subsequent rounds if you win. Check this listing ocassionally, alter your team-place if you wish, until it settles and we are ready to play on Sat 29th.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please do not replace another team-name with yours. Fill only spaces. In this way, Team Captains have a way of jockeying for position.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1 is... [[anarchic wanderers]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 2 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 3 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 4 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5 is... Wraith Squadron&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 6 is... &lt;br /&gt;
* Team 7 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 8 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 10 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 11 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 12 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 14 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 15 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 16 is...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Provisional Play-offs ==&lt;br /&gt;
Do not insert names of teams here. This is merely the structure and timing of the games. The actual teams which will be playing against one another will be based on the Challenge Board above and the Team Captains which register their teams at 9pm GMT on Sat 29th July.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note, the server allocation may change, especially as we move through into the quarters and semi finals depending on Team Captain discussion on the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note also, we might by-pass the first round if we only have 8 teams... so be sensible Team Captains when choosing where to allocate your team in the Challenge Board above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== First Round 9pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 3 challenges Team 4 on Lords of Destruction Clan Server&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5 challenges Team 6 on Crazy Tronners Jedi Battle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 7 challenges Team 8 on US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9 challenges Team 10 on Bugfarm Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 11 challenges Team 12 on Shadow League VPS Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13 challenges Team 14 on Shadow League Dedicated Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 15 challenges Team 16 on ?? wrtl&#039;s or someone else&#039;s ??&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Quarter Finals 9.45pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Crazy Tronners Jedi Battle Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9/10 challenges Team 11/12 Bugfarm Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13/14 challenges Team 15/16 Shadow League Dedicated Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Semi Finals 10.30pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9/10/11/12 challenges Team 13/14/15/16 Bugfarm Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Finals 11.15pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8 challenges Team 9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Last-minute Solutions ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following solutions need to be aired... check them out... and we must decide on one of them before the big day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Captain&#039;s Lock ===&lt;br /&gt;
One simple rule: The Captains are the last player of their team to enter the server, and by doing so, they will fill the server and effectively lock it. That is, a match will only start when both Team Captains have entered the grid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the time the Captain is out of the server, there can only be a maximum of 7 players since team-mates need to leave a space for the captain. Hence, the server will always remain open for last-minute additions and for late team-mates to join.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Team Captain should be in some form of communication with team-mates, whether it is a chat-room, team-speak, Skype, IRC, or whatever. They should know how many players have turned up for the day&#039;s play. If they have a full team, then everything will run smoothly, visiting the Captain&#039;s T-room to register and then returning to play the match. If, however, they lack a player or two, they have the opportunity of going around the different servers and doing some last minute recruiting. Their team should fill out and eventually the other team-mates will tell the captain they have 7 players and the Captain can return to the server, being the 8th member of the team, filling the server, and thus starting the match.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This system should allow the flexibility for team-mates who are a little late. If, while the Team-Captain is out recruiting, a regular team-mate arrives, the team can ask any last-minute additions to leave, while still retaining the space for the 8th player -- the Team Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== a.o.b. ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== max number of players ===&lt;br /&gt;
(Will the player count be locked at 8 plus spectators? Alowing a few exra spectators really helps with switching out team mates mid game.) Otherwise sounds good to me. -- Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure... thought it was maximum of 16 in a server. I just don&#039;t want regular players locked out of a match like Madmax was in the last tournament. I had no way of knowing he was waiting outside. Also, one of the major delays was waiting for players to attend. I think we should be super-strict about time and everything else should follow. I agree about spectators, or subs -- but does the standard fortress settings enable a few extra spectators before being filled? [[User:2020|2020]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== US Servers  ===&lt;br /&gt;
I notice that for Quarter Finals and After all the servers listed are European. During the Last ladle Bugfarm was very busy with looky loos do to that being the usual server people play on. Perhaps after the first round the US server could replace bugfarm on the list. Most US player average around 100 ping vs European players getting 30 - 60 on local servers so it seems that would be more than fair. Plus concidering Durka&#039;s pionts in the Feedback section. - GREAT job laying out the page 2020, it just gets better and better.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Good thinking... the actual server matches are played on should be decided by the team captains with only provisional listings above. Wraith Squadron has already chosen to be Team 8 which means they want to play on the US server and it would make sense to have the continuity of the US server with Quarters between Team 5/6 v Team 7/8 and semi&#039;s Team 1/2/3/4 v Team 5/6/7/8... though I see no problem in adding it to the options for the Quarter Finals and later. Does this make sense? Please remember this is all just provisional to assist Team Captains make their decisions on the day as quickly and as efficiently as possible without anyone being in charge. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14235</id>
		<title>Challenge Room</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&amp;diff=14235"/>
		<updated>2006-07-27T04:04:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Challenge Board */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Based on [[Ladle Feedback]], we are experimenting with another way of self-organising the competition. &#039;&#039;&#039;The responsibilities of Team Captains have altered&#039;&#039;&#039; and they are encouraged to use the &#039;&#039;&#039;Challenge Board&#039;&#039;&#039; below to establish the provisional games to be played that night. Team Captains should still visit a common chat-room to ensure all teams turn up and deal with any problems that may arise. If the preparations are abused in any way, then let us rely on Team Captains to organise it as they did in the first Ladle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One critical problem to solve this time round: recruiting last-minute. I was most disheartened to discover that one of AW&#039;s established team-mates was effectively locked out of a server because it was full. We must be more careful about last-minute additions, as well as recognise that without these last-minute recruits the Ladle would have crashed at the outset. So... any practical suggestions..? See Last Minute Solutions below. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Team Captains ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following team list is from the previous [[LADLE team-lists]], and all captains must put their names here to prepare for the night. Please make sure you have a reasonable form of communication with your team-mates, whether it is IRC, Skype, Team-speak, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* anarchic wanderers - garissimo&lt;br /&gt;
* speeders - PsYkO (gogodsmackgo@hotmail.com)&lt;br /&gt;
* Wraith Squadron - Manta&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://tron.plantpeanuts.co.uk/portal.php CrazyTronners] - Xevi&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://teamlol.tk ¡LØL!] - Durka&lt;br /&gt;
* apocalypse_legion - freako&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== T-room chat-room ==&lt;br /&gt;
Team Captains use the chat-room to register their team: their team is assembled at the appropriate server and they are ready to play. Team Captains should register at 9, 9.45, 10.30 and 11.15pm GMT. That is, at the beginning of every round...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the Team Captains verify the listing of teams on the Challenge Board below at the first meeting at 9pm GMT, then the competition should run smoothly. If things get messy, then we must resort to trusting one another and allowing Team Captains the opportunity to challenge other teams and allocating servers on the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Team Captains should familiarise themselves with [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/cgi-bin/irc.cgi?adv=1 Joda&#039;s web interface].&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Challenge Board ==&lt;br /&gt;
A provisional play-off sequence is provided below. Please note, it is for Team Captains to issue challenges by locating their [[LADLE team-lists|teams]] appropriately on the board. If they can not do this here, they will have to do it on the day in less than 5 mins, so... be cool and be brave...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Write down the placement of your team. Your placement of the team determines who you are playing in the first round and subsequent rounds if you win. Check this listing ocassionally, alter your team-place if you wish, until it settles and we are ready to play on Sat 29th.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please do not replace another team-name with yours. Fill only spaces. In this way, Team Captains have a way of jockeying for position.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1 is... [[anarchic wanderers]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 2 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 3 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 4 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 6 is... Wraith Squadron&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 7 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 8 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 10 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 11 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 12 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 14 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 15 is...&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 16 is...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Provisional Play-offs ==&lt;br /&gt;
Do not insert names of teams here. This is merely the structure and timing of the games. The actual teams which will be playing against one another will be based on the Challenge Board above and the Team Captains which register their teams at 9pm GMT on Sat 29th July.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note, the server allocation may change, especially as we move through into the quarters and semi finals depending on Team Captain discussion on the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note also, we might by-pass the first round if we only have 8 teams... so be sensible Team Captains when choosing where to allocate your team in the Challenge Board above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== First Round 9pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1 challenges Team 2 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 3 challenges Team 4 on Lords of Destruction Clan Server&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5 challenges Team 6 on Crazy Tronners Jedi Battle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 7 challenges Team 8 on US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9 challenges Team 10 on Bugfarm Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 11 challenges Team 12 on Shadow League VPS Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13 challenges Team 14 on Shadow League Dedicated Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 15 challenges Team 16 on ?? wrtl&#039;s or someone else&#039;s ??&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Quarter Finals 9.45pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2 challenges Team 3/4 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 5/6 challenges Team 7/8 on Crazy Tronners Jedi Battle Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9/10 challenges Team 11/12 Bugfarm Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 13/14 challenges Team 15/16 Shadow League Dedicated Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Semi Finals 10.30pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2/3/4 challenges Team 5/6/7/8 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 9/10/11/12 challenges Team 13/14/15/16 Bugfarm Fortress or US Fortress&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Finals 11.15pm GMT ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Team 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8 challenges Team 9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16 on Z-man&#039;s Ladle Fortress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Last-minute Solutions ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following solutions need to be aired... check them out... and we must decide on one of them before the big day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Captain&#039;s Lock ===&lt;br /&gt;
One simple rule: The Captains are the last player of their team to enter the server, and by doing so, they will fill the server and effectively lock it. That is, a match will only start when both Team Captains have entered the grid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the time the Captain is out of the server, there can only be a maximum of 7 players since team-mates need to leave a space for the captain. Hence, the server will always remain open for last-minute additions and for late team-mates to join.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Team Captain should be in some form of communication with team-mates, whether it is a chat-room, team-speak, Skype, IRC, or whatever. They should know how many players have turned up for the day&#039;s play. If they have a full team, then everything will run smoothly, visiting the Captain&#039;s T-room to register and then returning to play the match. If, however, they lack a player or two, they have the opportunity of going around the different servers and doing some last minute recruiting. Their team should fill out and eventually the other team-mates will tell the captain they have 7 players and the Captain can return to the server, being the 8th member of the team, filling the server, and thus starting the match.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This system should allow the flexibility for team-mates who are a little late. If, while the Team-Captain is out recruiting, a regular team-mate arrives, the team can ask any last-minute additions to leave, while still retaining the space for the 8th player -- the Team Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== a.o.b. ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== max number of players ===&lt;br /&gt;
(Will the player count be locked at 8 plus spectators? Alowing a few exra spectators really helps with switching out team mates mid game.) Otherwise sounds good to me. -- Manta&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure... thought it was maximum of 16 in a server. I just don&#039;t want regular players locked out of a match like Madmax was in the last tournament. I had no way of knowing he was waiting outside. Also, one of the major delays was waiting for players to attend. I think we should be super-strict about time and everything else should follow. I agree about spectators, or subs -- but does the standard fortress settings enable a few extra spectators before being filled? [[User:2020|2020]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== US Servers  ===&lt;br /&gt;
I notice that for Quarter Finals and After all the servers listed are European. During the Last ladle Bugfarm was very busy with looky loos do to that being the usual server people play on. Perhaps after the first round the US server could replace bugfarm on the list. Most US player average around 100 ping vs European players getting 30 - 60 on local servers so it seems that would be more than fair. Plus concidering Durka&#039;s pionts in the Feedback section. - GREAT job laying out the page 2020, it just gets better and better.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Good thinking... the actual server matches are played on should be decided by the team captains with only provisional listings above. Wraith Squadron has already chosen to be Team 8 which means they want to play on the US server and it would make sense to have the continuity of the US server with Quarters between Team 5/6 v Team 7/8 and semi&#039;s Team 1/2/3/4 v Team 5/6/7/8... though I see no problem in adding it to the options for the Quarter Finals and later. Does this make sense? Please remember this is all just provisional to assist Team Captains make their decisions on the day as quickly and as efficiently as possible without anyone being in charge. [[User:2020|2020]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=LADLE_team-lists&amp;diff=14234</id>
		<title>LADLE team-lists</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=LADLE_team-lists&amp;diff=14234"/>
		<updated>2006-07-27T03:51:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Wraith Squadron */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Ladle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Stick your name down on a list, or start your own team. The system of organising ourselves for [[THE LADLE]] is slightly different than the first tournament. Based on player feedback, we are going to try to organise the timing a little better so that the day (Sat 29th July) runs smoothly...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please indicate a captain. Check out the [[Challenge Room]] for the way the play-offs are organised.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t just put your name in the pool list. It would be better if you create a team as we are trying to get up to 16 teams.. then enlist team-mates!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Anarchic wanderers]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
* gArIsImOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO -- team captain&lt;br /&gt;
* 2020&lt;br /&gt;
* Vanhayes (probly)&lt;br /&gt;
* knojf (shhhhh) &amp;lt;!--Hi °°rain ;)--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Hay-Lin (the moody girl... kiss)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[~*SpeederS*~]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~PsYkO &lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~CYCLOTRON&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Error&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Joda.bot - TEam Captain&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Leeroy&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~OoKenny&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Slash&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Xell&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~fr34k&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Sonar&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Speed&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~whatup &lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Demon&lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~oM3g4 &lt;br /&gt;
*~*SP*~Oblivion&lt;br /&gt;
*~*$þ*~ß@TT@|&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Wraith Squadron]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Please check the Wrath Squadron page for practice times and announcements.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
* BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
* BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
* Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
* eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
* Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
* kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
* Manta&lt;br /&gt;
* Me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [http://teamlol.rocks.it ¡LØL!] ==&lt;br /&gt;
~*We will definately have conflicts and maybe only like 5-10 of us will actually be able to show up&lt;br /&gt;
*Durka (might not be there...depends on start time)&lt;br /&gt;
*Wildcat (Captain)&lt;br /&gt;
*Chuck&lt;br /&gt;
*Legit (might not be there)&lt;br /&gt;
*Goodygumrops&lt;br /&gt;
*G5&lt;br /&gt;
*Trace&lt;br /&gt;
*Pyrotek&lt;br /&gt;
*Blader&lt;br /&gt;
*DDX&lt;br /&gt;
*Crash&lt;br /&gt;
*2b|!2b?&lt;br /&gt;
*ArcBeetle&lt;br /&gt;
*Scythe&lt;br /&gt;
*Veritech&lt;br /&gt;
*TitsnAss&lt;br /&gt;
*Sha9y&lt;br /&gt;
*Nate&lt;br /&gt;
*IceStage&lt;br /&gt;
*Mkzelda&lt;br /&gt;
*[S]onic[D]ragon[X]&lt;br /&gt;
*Pandemonium - Until I find out my schedule &amp;lt;!--Umm...Pand: you are already on the list...I&#039;ll just delete the other one--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Apocalypse_Legion]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
*freako (Captain)&lt;br /&gt;
*Goodkoen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[the pool]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
For unaffiliated players who would like to play on the day....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[old team lists]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where you can find the team lists for the First Ladle Game.--&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14233</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14233"/>
		<updated>2006-07-27T03:50:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 6PM PST - 9PM EST - 1AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ || bashusr ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m || y ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We had a great practice Sunday, we still have some things that need work, Me was able to attend so only one we are waiting on is Ecky-Thump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BashUser&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14231</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14231"/>
		<updated>2006-07-27T02:00:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Can you show up? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 6PM PST - 9PM EST - 1AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || n || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We had a great practice Sunday, we still have some things that need work, Me was able to attend so only one we are waiting on is Ecky-Thump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14177</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14177"/>
		<updated>2006-07-24T03:16:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 6PM PST - 9PM EST - 1AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 6pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Am thinking of moving Sunday&#039;s practice to earlier in the day, I can&#039;t make it in the afternoon but would that be easier for everyone else?  --manta&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We had a great practice Sunday, we still have some things that need work, Me was able to attend so only one we are waiting on is Ecky-Thump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=International_Tron_World_Cup&amp;diff=14160</id>
		<title>International Tron World Cup</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=International_Tron_World_Cup&amp;diff=14160"/>
		<updated>2006-07-23T07:48:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* United States of America */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;!-- Please do not add anymore font tags or colors of any kind to this page, I&#039;ll remove them. [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 19:14, 8 July 2006 (CEST) --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Rules ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All fortress players can participate in this tournament. Just post your name under the name of your country. Please write your name without clan tags.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is organized in countries, if your country isn&#039;t here, edit this page and add it. It will be nice if you respect the alphabetic order. &#039;&#039;&#039;The country has to exist!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Maybe if the team grows a lot it can make 2 teams, like east and west, it goes 4 usa :P, plz no invented names.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After all interested players register we will update this page with all the instructions of the tournament. Meanwhile here are some details:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The main plan is that it will be a fortress tournament, played in play-offs mode, when teams are ready, there will be a picture showing the brackets of the road to Tron World Cup. And if it is possible we will try to respect football world cup brackets :D&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In case of some countries goes short, there will be a alliances, the way they will be is trying to join to another geo-near (example: spain+portugal-&amp;gt;iberia, austria+switc-&amp;gt;alps, nordics, ...) or just fusion with other short team (we will try to respect issues like belgium and netherland one :P).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A short team will be one with less than 5 players, this will be the minimum numbers of players to play a match.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Start date is 24 July 2006&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Groups and Brackets ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;rArr; [[International_Tron_World_Cup_Groups|Groups &amp;amp; Brackets]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Teams ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Alliance 1 (Austria, Canada, France and Netherlands) ===&lt;br /&gt;
*1394-freak&lt;br /&gt;
*JJBean&lt;br /&gt;
*BaTTaL&lt;br /&gt;
*Voodoo&lt;br /&gt;
*k3nny&lt;br /&gt;
*Lackadaisical&lt;br /&gt;
*freako&lt;br /&gt;
*Goodkoen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Alliance 2 (Switzerland, Portugal, Poland, Mexico, Italy) ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Drashia&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Cusco|cusco]] (PORTUGAL - going away on the 28th for 2 weeks)&lt;br /&gt;
*madmax&lt;br /&gt;
*WebGamer&lt;br /&gt;
* newbie&lt;br /&gt;
* sebol158&lt;br /&gt;
*the godfather (italy sicily player)&lt;br /&gt;
*Tidus (possibly dont will be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Germany ===&lt;br /&gt;
Link: [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/wbboard/thread.php?boardid=3&amp;amp;threadid=903&amp;amp;page=1#13 Team Germany]&lt;br /&gt;
*Blader&lt;br /&gt;
*joda.bot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Pta|PTA]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Z-Man&lt;br /&gt;
*~*Mephisto*~&lt;br /&gt;
*$ubzero&lt;br /&gt;
*Luzifer (LukeSky)&lt;br /&gt;
*Slayer&lt;br /&gt;
*H.A.K.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sefgu&lt;br /&gt;
*Alien&lt;br /&gt;
*fr34k(y)&lt;br /&gt;
*Narrow&lt;br /&gt;
*dyyXy!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== North American Free Tron Alliance (NAFTA) ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Lucifer&lt;br /&gt;
* BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
* anjori&lt;br /&gt;
* knojf&lt;br /&gt;
* Vanhayes &lt;br /&gt;
* [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;See [[Talk:International Tron World Cup]] for discussion&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Russ.jpg|left]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Russia ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Ossi&lt;br /&gt;
*Sasha&lt;br /&gt;
*badzilla&lt;br /&gt;
*doc&lt;br /&gt;
*man2d&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Spain.jpg|left|30px]]&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spain ===&lt;br /&gt;
*Ady-Lucifer (From Cantabria, aka Hell)&lt;br /&gt;
*ORiON(From Seville, Andalucía)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:ChiCho|ChiCho]] (From Motril, Andalucia)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Xevic|Xevi]] (From Barcelona, Catalunya [[Image:CAT.gif]])&lt;br /&gt;
*AuRoN&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:ArcBeetle|ArcBeetle]] (From Cordoba, Andalucia)&lt;br /&gt;
*4400&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== United Kingdom === &lt;br /&gt;
*ed (From Wales)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:X3r|X3R]] (be AFRAID!)&lt;br /&gt;
*)(Alex)( (*burps* :D)&lt;br /&gt;
*Infamous&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Syllabear|Syllabear]] (From N.Ireland)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Dez|Dez]] (From England)&lt;br /&gt;
*Sleepy&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Pyroto&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*2020 (currently in scotland)&lt;br /&gt;
*Pez&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:usflag01.gif|left]]&lt;br /&gt;
=== United States of America ===&lt;br /&gt;
*gArIsImO&lt;br /&gt;
*Wildcat&lt;br /&gt;
*Goodygumdrops&lt;br /&gt;
*Chuck&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Durka|Dµrkå]] (99.99999999% chance I won&#039;t make it)&lt;br /&gt;
*Manta (This is 1PM in the afternoon! doesn&#039;t anyone work?)&lt;br /&gt;
*PsYkO WEWT&lt;br /&gt;
*Pandemonium&lt;br /&gt;
*Legit&lt;br /&gt;
*eclipse &lt;br /&gt;
*Stewie! (most likely will not make a very high percentage of not making it.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Kyle (may not make it)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Oblivion Muahahaha!]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14143</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14143"/>
		<updated>2006-07-21T06:45:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Sunday July 23rd at 6PM PST - 9PM EST - 1AM GMT &#039;&#039;&#039;It was decided to change the time&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 6pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Am thinking of moving Sunday&#039;s practice to earlier in the day, I can&#039;t make it in the afternoon but would that be easier for everyone else?  --manta&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14142</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14142"/>
		<updated>2006-07-20T20:56:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Can you show up? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next team practice will be: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wednesday July 19th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT (A very sucsefull practice, do need to worka bit more on spliting, and would be nice to have more members atending so that we can get used to each others styes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Thursday July 20th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-19 9pm PST || y || y || m || y || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-20 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Am thinking of moving Sunday&#039;s practice to earlier in the day, I can&#039;t make it in the afternoon but would that be easier for everyone else?  --manta&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14141</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14141"/>
		<updated>2006-07-20T19:12:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next team practice will be: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wednesday July 19th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT (A very sucsefull practice, do need to worka bit more on spliting, and would be nice to have more members atending so that we can get used to each others styes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Thursday July 20th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 7PM PST - 10PM EST - 2AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-19 9pm PST || y || y || m || y || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-20 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14140</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14140"/>
		<updated>2006-07-20T19:05:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Can you show up? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next team practice will be: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wednesday July 19th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT (A very sucsefull practice, do need to worka bit more on spliting, and would be nice to have more members atending so that we can get used to each others styes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Thursday July 20th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9:30PM PST - 12:30AM EST - 4:30AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-19 9pm PST || y || y || m || y || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-20 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 7pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:00pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14130</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14130"/>
		<updated>2006-07-20T07:22:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Can you show up? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next team practice will be: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wednesday July 19th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT (A very sucsefull practice, do need to worka bit more on spliting, and would be nice to have more members atending so that we can get used to each others styes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Thursday July 20th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9:30PM PST - 12:30AM EST - 4:30AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-19 9pm PST || y || y || m || y || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-20 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:30pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14129</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14129"/>
		<updated>2006-07-20T07:19:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: /* Wraith Squadron Notes */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next team practice will be: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wednesday July 19th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT (A very sucsefull practice, do need to worka bit more on spliting, and would be nice to have more members atending so that we can get used to each others styes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Thursday July 20th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9:30PM PST - 12:30AM EST - 4:30AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-19 9pm PST || y || y || m || y || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:30pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense, 4 vs 7 w00t! Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14128</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14128"/>
		<updated>2006-07-20T07:18:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next team practice will be: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wednesday July 19th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT (A very sucsefull practice, do need to worka bit more on spliting, and would be nice to have more members atending so that we can get used to each others styes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Thursday July 20th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9:30PM PST - 12:30AM EST - 4:30AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times work out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-19 9pm PST || y || y || m || y || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:30pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |&#039;&#039;&#039;Ladle 7-29 2pm PST&#039;&#039;&#039; || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense,  Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14127</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14127"/>
		<updated>2006-07-20T07:14:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next team practice will be: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wednesday July 19th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT (A very sucsefull practice, do need to worka bit more on spliting, and would be nice to have more members showing up so that we can get used to each others styes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Thursday July 20th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday July 23rd at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wendesday July 26th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thursday July 27th at 9:30PM PST - 12:30AM EST - 4:30AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please leave notes on how this or other times works out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-19 9pm PST || y || y || m || y || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-23 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-26 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Practice 7-27 9:30pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |- &lt;br /&gt;
 |Ladle 7-29 2pm PST || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
 |-&lt;br /&gt;
 |}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exelent first practice, only need a few touch ups here and there. And great job kamakazi on both offence and backing up defense,  Maybe we will try and start off with some sumo next time to get limberd up -manta &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Wraith_Squadron&amp;diff=14126</id>
		<title>Wraith Squadron</title>
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		<updated>2006-07-20T07:04:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Manta: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;; [[THE LADLE]] | [[LADLE team-lists]] | [[Challenge Room]] | [[Ladle Winners]] | [http://www.greenwichmeantime.com Time Coordination]&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations Wraith Squadron Members on a great job during the ladle. Do to our small size we were almost dropped from the competition but you rose victorious and managed to win a second place standing.&lt;br /&gt;
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We need to make sure we have a reasonable form of communication with each other as we must enter the server within a few minutes of each other. As far as coordinating the team MSN seems to be working the best. Remember windows includes the MSN client and you can use your hotmail account to log in.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;-(Team Practice)-&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Next team practice will be: &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Wednesday July 19th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT (A very sucsefull practice, do need to work on spliting, and we should have more members showing up so that we can get used to each others styes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Thursday July 20th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
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Sunday July 23rd at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
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Wendesday July 26th at 9PM PST - 12AM EST - 4AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
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Thursday July 27th at 9:30PM PST - 12:30AM EST - 4:30AM GMT&lt;br /&gt;
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We will meet on the US Fortress server, MSN will also be on.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please leave notes on how this or other times works out for you.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Can you show up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
No is default, please update if you know you can make it, or at least think you can&lt;br /&gt;
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{|&lt;br /&gt;
 ! Date || Ash. || BlAzE || Dook. || eclip. || kama. || Manta || Me || Ecky || _ ||&lt;br /&gt;
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 |Practice 7-19 9pm PST || y || y || m || y || y || y || m || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
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 |Practice 7-23 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || y || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
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 |Practice 7-26 9pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
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 |Practice 7-27 9:30pm PST || m || m || m || m || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
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 |Ladle 7-29 2pm PST || m || m || m || n || m || y || y || m || m ||&lt;br /&gt;
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 |colspan=&amp;quot;15&amp;quot; | For ladle SHOW UP AN HOUR EARLY to warm up! matches start whether we are ready or not!&lt;br /&gt;
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 |  colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | Leave a y for yes, n for no, and m for maybe ||&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wraith Squadron Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any comments or notes you wish to make.&lt;br /&gt;
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good first practice, great defense by blaze and great offence by dook and manta. -Kama&lt;br /&gt;
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    - Members -&lt;br /&gt;
    * AshitakA&lt;br /&gt;
    * BlAzE&lt;br /&gt;
    * Dookatee&lt;br /&gt;
    * eclipse&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ecky-Thump&lt;br /&gt;
    * kamakazi&lt;br /&gt;
    * Manta&lt;br /&gt;
    * Me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Manta</name></author>
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