http://wiki.armagetronad.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=TiTnAsSArmagetron Advanced - User contributions [en]2026-11-05T09:50:19ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.44.2http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=2161Talk:Main Page2005-11-04T04:10:38Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>Any particular reason your locking everything? I thought it was for players to edit and add stuff they thought people should know?<br />
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--TiTnAsS<br />
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I locked exactly two pages, the main page, and the page that explains why I locked the main page. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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Yarr, but why was the other one locked? O_o <br />
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--TiTnAsS<br />
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So nobody could edit it? Maybe you could read it and find out, that way I don't have to type the reason twice. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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Just a reminder for Luci: make the lag section. Also, can we get a game mode section?<br />
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-- TiTnAsS<br />
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You're getting a Miscellaneous section, and periodically when complete sections develop from it then we'll worry about how to link them in, right?<br />
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Also, a player's guide. You can talk about lag and game modes there. Makes sense, right? Server Admin Guide, Player Guide.<br />
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''--Lucifer''<br />
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Yup, sounds good.<br />
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-- TiTnAsS<br />
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How about having the wiki policy on the front page?<br />
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-- TiTnAsS<br />
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Is that so people who post to the talk page of the front page will remember to leave their name and a horizontal line?<br />
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Other than that, it doesn't really belong here. A feed of newest pages would be better. I'll look at what wikipedia uses for their front page, that's along the lines of what should be here. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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I'm sry i actually thought i did.. <br />
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Can we get rid of that News section and make it a link, the each day put the date and the new news? We would put the new news on top, but never delete the old, and if there wasnt any news just say No significant news today. That would be cool to be able to look back on past news and stuff. (in the following i wasnt sure how to color text, but the "IMPORANT" would be red :). The kind of news that would go here is:<br />
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== News ==<br />
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IMPORTANT: 1/1/06: <br />
New ArmagetronAD version 1.0.0 "Bacchus" has been released. It <br />
includes all of the following fixes and features: <br />
blah blah blah...<br />
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12/9/05: <br />
Lucifer has been elected President of the United States, ALL <br />
REJOICE! Now cannibalism is legal!<br />
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12/5/05: <br />
Tigers Network has returned! Its back with better settings <br />
then ever, some of the new settings include: new flying cycles, <br />
a statue in the middle dedicated to Tank Program and an all new <br />
moviepack!<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 19:08, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Go read the MediaWiki docs and figure out how to do it and I'll be happy to do it. I tried already to get it to show a feed of latest articles, I'd like that and about 4-5 news items. I think that would be cool. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:37, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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- [[User:Nemostultae|nemostultae]] 20:15, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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We don't need special commands to do it, ill make one and you can revert if you guys dun like it okey?<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:27, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Why oh why. Hm. Yeah, we do need special commands to do it. Ideally, each news item would be a separate, detailed article, and we'd just feed the headlines and summaries to the front page. Over time, doing it manually becomes very difficult to maintain, and eventually makes it impossible to do certain things with the news. Pretty frustrating.<br />
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--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:29, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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check how it is now, i think that is fine for now. Or at least give it a try? it wont be to much of a pain to maintain... besides i like the colors :).. if not ill put it back :/<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:44, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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We're on the same page for what it looks like, but you're going to have to trust me that a manually-edited feed is a pain to maintain. Here, look at this:<br />
http://jameshoward.us/Main_Page<br />
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Also, dark colors on light or light colors on dark, but never light colors on light. Reason? Visually impaired people can't read them at all. Except for the really blind, who use a screen reader, but I imagine those folks aren't likely to be playing the game in the first place.<br />
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--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:51, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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ok so here are my suggestions for the main page. if this is the first page that potential new players visit, which it should be, then there should be several screen shots, and possible some art and a title of some sort other than Main Page. ---''raoul''<br />
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It's not actually supposed to be the first page potential players visit, we have a new website for that. This is for people already playing, and for new players who have found the game and played it and want to learn more.<br />
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--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 03:34, 30 October 2005 (CST)<br />
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on the main page, How about putting pictures of light cycle with long trails and having quotes from players written on the trails?<br />
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(pinkbike)-(trail)better then Bottled water-nemo(/trail)<br />
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(purplebike)-(trail)try the crack pipe-luci(/trail)<br />
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etc etc<br />
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* Sure, upload the graphics (link in the toolbox on the lower left) and come back here and put the filenames and I'll take care of it. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 18:36, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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* what size should they be? i have it at 915x35 wxh of course should the tail be shorter/longer? and what colors--Your_mom<br />
** Try not to make the width more than 200px unless you really need a few extra pixels. A hard limit of about 275. Then whatever height you need. Colors? I don't know, pick some. :) Also, can you make one with alpha instead of cycle color? And without text on the trail? I could use that at some point to use dynamic colors and text. :) --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:19, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
*** http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Image:Bikewht.png i have different colored ones is this what we where looking for --Your_mom<br />
*** I don't know, is that what you were thinking? That's about the width you generally want on a web page where you need to intersperse text with the graphics, but is it what you were thinking about how it should look? --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:59, 2 November 2005 (CST) (P.S. if you use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for your signature, your wiki username and a timestamp will be put there instead)<br />
***[[image:Biketest1000.png|left|]] can you right over top of that inside the wiki?, think that would be ok?, yeah it wasnt the look i was going for, but this is slightly better -- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 20:21, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
**** The cycle's kinda small. Maybe a larger cycle? It's ok if the cycle size doesn't quite go with the wall size, that makes the picture more cartoony anyway. I know you can associate text with an image, but I don't know if you can specify whether to show the text on top or on bottom of the picture. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 20:25, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image#Putting_text_in_an_image.2C_superimposing_images.2C_e.g._for_locator_maps http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Image:Bikex5.png<br />
-- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 20:57, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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if i knew how to change font size and color it might look better-- mom<br />
* Looks like you've just about got it. Here's a little trick that might come in handy, though. Say you put two spans right next to each other with no distance between them. Make one have in the background the cycle and the first part of the wall, and put a &nbsp; in the foreground. However many &nbsp's you need to make it fit. Then in the other put a tile-able background that is the rest of the wall. Then you should be able to put text in such a way as to stretch the second span so cover the whole phrase, within reasonable sizes of phrases. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 22:02, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
** I dont quite follow -- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 22:17, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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Heh, when you figure it out tell me, i wanna post one in ym names link. It'll say "THE DRUMMER FROM ''''''DEF LEPPARD'''''' ONLY HAS ONE ARM!!"-Blood Hound Gang.. lol<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 18:59, 3 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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Hows that luci still look/sound like a good idea? i can post different color bikes. finished testing for now. - [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 22:07, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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-mom again<br />
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Luci, i caught my mistake before you did, check my user info >.<..<br />
lol<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:10, 3 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=User:TiTnAsS&diff=2157User:TiTnAsS2005-11-04T01:04:44Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>== TiTnAsS ==<br />
Admin of World of TNA<br />
Master of everything..<br />
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aim- nick titnass<br />
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msn- insanewordlife@hotmail.com<br />
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yim- titnass<br />
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jabber- titnass@jabber.org<br />
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irc- titnass (freenode/prison)<br />
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== '''''I AM GOD''''' ==<br />
If one exists that is ;)<br />
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{| style="background:transparent"<br />
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| <em style="color:white;font-style:normal"><font size="1">"TheDrummerFromDefLeppardOnlyHasOneArm!!" -Blood Hound Gang</font></em> -tna<br />
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</div></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=User:TiTnAsS&diff=2156User:TiTnAsS2005-11-04T01:04:28Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>== TiTnAsS ==<br />
Admin of World of TNA<br />
Master of everything..<br />
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aim- nick titnass<br />
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msn- insanewordlife@hotmail.com<br />
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yim- titnass<br />
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jabber- titnass@jabber.org<br />
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irc- titnass (freenode/prison)<br />
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== '''''I AM GOD''''' ==<br />
If one exists that is ;)<br />
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<div style="position: relative">[[Image:Bikex5.png]]<br />
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{| style="background:transparent"<br />
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| <em style="color:white;font-style:normal"><font size="1">"TheDrummerFromDefLeppardOnlyHasOneArm!!" -Blood Hound Gang</font></em>-tna<br />
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</div></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=User:TiTnAsS&diff=2155User:TiTnAsS2005-11-04T01:01:55Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>== TiTnAsS ==<br />
Admin of World of TNA<br />
Master of everything..<br />
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aim- nick titnass<br />
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msn- insanewordlife@hotmail.com<br />
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yim- titnass<br />
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jabber- titnass@jabber.org<br />
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irc- titnass (freenode/prison)<br />
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== '''''I AM GOD''''' ==<br />
If one exists that is ;)<br />
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<div style="position: relative">[[Image:Bikex5.png]]<br />
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{| style="background:transparent"<br />
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| <em style="color:white;font-style:normal"><font size="1">"TheDrummerFromDeafLeaperdOnlyHasOneArm!" -Blood Hound Gang</font></em>-tna<br />
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</div></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=User:TiTnAsS&diff=2154User:TiTnAsS2005-11-04T01:01:40Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>== TiTnAsS ==<br />
Admin of World of TNA<br />
Master of everything..<br />
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aim- nick titnass<br />
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msn- insanewordlife@hotmail.com<br />
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yim- titnass<br />
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jabber- titnass@jabber.org<br />
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irc- titnass (freenode/prison)<br />
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== '''''I AM GOD''''' ==<br />
If one exists that is ;)<br />
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<div style="position: relative">[[Image:Bikex5.png]]<br />
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{| style="background:transparent"<br />
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| <em style="color:white;font-style:normal"><font size="1">"TheDrummerFromDeafLeaperdOnlyHasOneArm!"-Blood Hound Gang</font></em>-tna<br />
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</div></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=2153Talk:Main Page2005-11-04T00:59:56Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>Any particular reason your locking everything? I thought it was for players to edit and add stuff they thought people should know?<br />
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I locked exactly two pages, the main page, and the page that explains why I locked the main page. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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Yarr, but why was the other one locked? O_o <br />
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So nobody could edit it? Maybe you could read it and find out, that way I don't have to type the reason twice. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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Just a reminder for Luci: make the lag section. Also, can we get a game mode section?<br />
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You're getting a Miscellaneous section, and periodically when complete sections develop from it then we'll worry about how to link them in, right?<br />
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Also, a player's guide. You can talk about lag and game modes there. Makes sense, right? Server Admin Guide, Player Guide.<br />
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Yup, sounds good.<br />
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How about having the wiki policy on the front page?<br />
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Is that so people who post to the talk page of the front page will remember to leave their name and a horizontal line?<br />
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Other than that, it doesn't really belong here. A feed of newest pages would be better. I'll look at what wikipedia uses for their front page, that's along the lines of what should be here. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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I'm sry i actually thought i did.. <br />
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Can we get rid of that News section and make it a link, the each day put the date and the new news? We would put the new news on top, but never delete the old, and if there wasnt any news just say No significant news today. That would be cool to be able to look back on past news and stuff. (in the following i wasnt sure how to color text, but the "IMPORANT" would be red :). The kind of news that would go here is:<br />
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== News ==<br />
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IMPORTANT: 1/1/06: <br />
New ArmagetronAD version 1.0.0 "Bacchus" has been released. It <br />
includes all of the following fixes and features: <br />
blah blah blah...<br />
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12/9/05: <br />
Lucifer has been elected President of the United States, ALL <br />
REJOICE! Now cannibalism is legal!<br />
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12/5/05: <br />
Tigers Network has returned! Its back with better settings <br />
then ever, some of the new settings include: new flying cycles, <br />
a statue in the middle dedicated to Tank Program and an all new <br />
moviepack!<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 19:08, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Go read the MediaWiki docs and figure out how to do it and I'll be happy to do it. I tried already to get it to show a feed of latest articles, I'd like that and about 4-5 news items. I think that would be cool. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:37, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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We don't need special commands to do it, ill make one and you can revert if you guys dun like it okey?<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:27, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Why oh why. Hm. Yeah, we do need special commands to do it. Ideally, each news item would be a separate, detailed article, and we'd just feed the headlines and summaries to the front page. Over time, doing it manually becomes very difficult to maintain, and eventually makes it impossible to do certain things with the news. Pretty frustrating.<br />
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--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:29, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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check how it is now, i think that is fine for now. Or at least give it a try? it wont be to much of a pain to maintain... besides i like the colors :).. if not ill put it back :/<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:44, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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We're on the same page for what it looks like, but you're going to have to trust me that a manually-edited feed is a pain to maintain. Here, look at this:<br />
http://jameshoward.us/Main_Page<br />
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Also, dark colors on light or light colors on dark, but never light colors on light. Reason? Visually impaired people can't read them at all. Except for the really blind, who use a screen reader, but I imagine those folks aren't likely to be playing the game in the first place.<br />
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--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:51, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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ok so here are my suggestions for the main page. if this is the first page that potential new players visit, which it should be, then there should be several screen shots, and possible some art and a title of some sort other than Main Page. ---''raoul''<br />
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It's not actually supposed to be the first page potential players visit, we have a new website for that. This is for people already playing, and for new players who have found the game and played it and want to learn more.<br />
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on the main page, How about putting pictures of light cycle with long trails and having quotes from players written on the trails?<br />
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(pinkbike)-(trail)better then Bottled water-nemo(/trail)<br />
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(purplebike)-(trail)try the crack pipe-luci(/trail)<br />
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-- Your_mom<br />
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* Sure, upload the graphics (link in the toolbox on the lower left) and come back here and put the filenames and I'll take care of it. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 18:36, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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* what size should they be? i have it at 915x35 wxh of course should the tail be shorter/longer? and what colors--Your_mom<br />
** Try not to make the width more than 200px unless you really need a few extra pixels. A hard limit of about 275. Then whatever height you need. Colors? I don't know, pick some. :) Also, can you make one with alpha instead of cycle color? And without text on the trail? I could use that at some point to use dynamic colors and text. :) --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:19, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
*** http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Image:Bikewht.png i have different colored ones is this what we where looking for --Your_mom<br />
*** I don't know, is that what you were thinking? That's about the width you generally want on a web page where you need to intersperse text with the graphics, but is it what you were thinking about how it should look? --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:59, 2 November 2005 (CST) (P.S. if you use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for your signature, your wiki username and a timestamp will be put there instead)<br />
***[[image:Biketest1000.png|left|]] can you right over top of that inside the wiki?, think that would be ok?, yeah it wasnt the look i was going for, but this is slightly better -- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 20:21, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
**** The cycle's kinda small. Maybe a larger cycle? It's ok if the cycle size doesn't quite go with the wall size, that makes the picture more cartoony anyway. I know you can associate text with an image, but I don't know if you can specify whether to show the text on top or on bottom of the picture. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 20:25, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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-- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 20:57, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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if i knew how to change font size and color it might look better-- mom<br />
* Looks like you've just about got it. Here's a little trick that might come in handy, though. Say you put two spans right next to each other with no distance between them. Make one have in the background the cycle and the first part of the wall, and put a &nbsp; in the foreground. However many &nbsp's you need to make it fit. Then in the other put a tile-able background that is the rest of the wall. Then you should be able to put text in such a way as to stretch the second span so cover the whole phrase, within reasonable sizes of phrases. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 22:02, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
** I dont quite follow -- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 22:17, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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Heh, when you figure it out tell me, i wanna post one in ym names link. It'll say "THE DRUMMER FROM DEAF LEAPERD ONLY HAS ONE ARM!!"-Blood Hound Gang.. lol<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 18:59, 3 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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Hows that luci still look/sound like a good idea? i can post different color bikes. finished testing for now. - [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 22:07, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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-mom again</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=2152Talk:Main Page2005-11-04T00:58:39Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>Any particular reason your locking everything? I thought it was for players to edit and add stuff they thought people should know?<br />
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--TiTnAsS<br />
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I locked exactly two pages, the main page, and the page that explains why I locked the main page. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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Yarr, but why was the other one locked? O_o <br />
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--TiTnAsS<br />
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So nobody could edit it? Maybe you could read it and find out, that way I don't have to type the reason twice. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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Just a reminder for Luci: make the lag section. Also, can we get a game mode section?<br />
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-- TiTnAsS<br />
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You're getting a Miscellaneous section, and periodically when complete sections develop from it then we'll worry about how to link them in, right?<br />
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Also, a player's guide. You can talk about lag and game modes there. Makes sense, right? Server Admin Guide, Player Guide.<br />
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''--Lucifer''<br />
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Yup, sounds good.<br />
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-- TiTnAsS<br />
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How about having the wiki policy on the front page?<br />
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-- TiTnAsS<br />
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Is that so people who post to the talk page of the front page will remember to leave their name and a horizontal line?<br />
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Other than that, it doesn't really belong here. A feed of newest pages would be better. I'll look at what wikipedia uses for their front page, that's along the lines of what should be here. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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I'm sry i actually thought i did.. <br />
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- TiTnAsS<br />
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Can we get rid of that News section and make it a link, the each day put the date and the new news? We would put the new news on top, but never delete the old, and if there wasnt any news just say No significant news today. That would be cool to be able to look back on past news and stuff. (in the following i wasnt sure how to color text, but the "IMPORANT" would be red :). The kind of news that would go here is:<br />
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== News ==<br />
<br />
IMPORTANT: 1/1/06: <br />
New ArmagetronAD version 1.0.0 "Bacchus" has been released. It <br />
includes all of the following fixes and features: <br />
blah blah blah...<br />
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12/9/05: <br />
Lucifer has been elected President of the United States, ALL <br />
REJOICE! Now cannibalism is legal!<br />
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12/5/05: <br />
Tigers Network has returned! Its back with better settings <br />
then ever, some of the new settings include: new flying cycles, <br />
a statue in the middle dedicated to Tank Program and an all new <br />
moviepack!<br />
<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 19:08, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Go read the MediaWiki docs and figure out how to do it and I'll be happy to do it. I tried already to get it to show a feed of latest articles, I'd like that and about 4-5 news items. I think that would be cool. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:37, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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- [[User:Nemostultae|nemostultae]] 20:15, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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We don't need special commands to do it, ill make one and you can revert if you guys dun like it okey?<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:27, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Why oh why. Hm. Yeah, we do need special commands to do it. Ideally, each news item would be a separate, detailed article, and we'd just feed the headlines and summaries to the front page. Over time, doing it manually becomes very difficult to maintain, and eventually makes it impossible to do certain things with the news. Pretty frustrating.<br />
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--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:29, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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check how it is now, i think that is fine for now. Or at least give it a try? it wont be to much of a pain to maintain... besides i like the colors :).. if not ill put it back :/<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:44, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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We're on the same page for what it looks like, but you're going to have to trust me that a manually-edited feed is a pain to maintain. Here, look at this:<br />
http://jameshoward.us/Main_Page<br />
<br />
Also, dark colors on light or light colors on dark, but never light colors on light. Reason? Visually impaired people can't read them at all. Except for the really blind, who use a screen reader, but I imagine those folks aren't likely to be playing the game in the first place.<br />
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--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:51, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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ok so here are my suggestions for the main page. if this is the first page that potential new players visit, which it should be, then there should be several screen shots, and possible some art and a title of some sort other than Main Page. ---''raoul''<br />
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It's not actually supposed to be the first page potential players visit, we have a new website for that. This is for people already playing, and for new players who have found the game and played it and want to learn more.<br />
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--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 03:34, 30 October 2005 (CST)<br />
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on the main page, How about putting pictures of light cycle with long trails and having quotes from players written on the trails?<br />
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(pinkbike)-(trail)better then Bottled water-nemo(/trail)<br />
<br />
(purplebike)-(trail)try the crack pipe-luci(/trail)<br />
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etc etc<br />
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-- Your_mom<br />
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* Sure, upload the graphics (link in the toolbox on the lower left) and come back here and put the filenames and I'll take care of it. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 18:36, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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* what size should they be? i have it at 915x35 wxh of course should the tail be shorter/longer? and what colors--Your_mom<br />
** Try not to make the width more than 200px unless you really need a few extra pixels. A hard limit of about 275. Then whatever height you need. Colors? I don't know, pick some. :) Also, can you make one with alpha instead of cycle color? And without text on the trail? I could use that at some point to use dynamic colors and text. :) --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:19, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
*** http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Image:Bikewht.png i have different colored ones is this what we where looking for --Your_mom<br />
*** I don't know, is that what you were thinking? That's about the width you generally want on a web page where you need to intersperse text with the graphics, but is it what you were thinking about how it should look? --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:59, 2 November 2005 (CST) (P.S. if you use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for your signature, your wiki username and a timestamp will be put there instead)<br />
***[[image:Biketest1000.png|left|]] can you right over top of that inside the wiki?, think that would be ok?, yeah it wasnt the look i was going for, but this is slightly better -- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 20:21, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
**** The cycle's kinda small. Maybe a larger cycle? It's ok if the cycle size doesn't quite go with the wall size, that makes the picture more cartoony anyway. I know you can associate text with an image, but I don't know if you can specify whether to show the text on top or on bottom of the picture. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 20:25, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image#Putting_text_in_an_image.2C_superimposing_images.2C_e.g._for_locator_maps http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Image:Bikex5.png<br />
-- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 20:57, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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{| style="background:transparent"<br />
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if i knew how to change font size and color it might look better-- mom<br />
* Looks like you've just about got it. Here's a little trick that might come in handy, though. Say you put two spans right next to each other with no distance between them. Make one have in the background the cycle and the first part of the wall, and put a &nbsp; in the foreground. However many &nbsp's you need to make it fit. Then in the other put a tile-able background that is the rest of the wall. Then you should be able to put text in such a way as to stretch the second span so cover the whole phrase, within reasonable sizes of phrases. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 22:02, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
** I dont quite follow -- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 22:17, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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Heh, when you figure it out tell me, i wanna post one in ym names link. It'll say "THE DRUMMER FROM DEAF LEAPERD ONLY HAS ONE ARM!!"-Blood Hound Gang.. lol<br />
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Hows that luci still look/sound like a good idea? i can post different color bikes. finished testing for now. - [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 22:07, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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-mom again</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fortress&diff=2139Talk:Fortress2005-11-03T03:40:10Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>There are only two games modes, ok? Last man standing and freestyle. You configure those in settings.cfg. Fortress isn't a mode, it's more like a style of arena, or a type of server, or something. Haven't yet decided what it is, I only know that it isn't a mode. Specifically, it's an effect of a zone, and will eventually be a trigger on a zone. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:39, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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Yarr you told me, then you fixed it before i got the chance :). sry, trial and error is my way, there is just alot more error then should be expected XD..<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:40, 2 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Fortress&diff=2137Fortress2005-11-03T03:36:42Z<p>TiTnAsS: spelling</p>
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<div>== History ==<br />
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Proof of concept of Fortress mode was created by Z-Man, and is still in the works.<br />
<br />
== Objective ==<br />
<br />
In this mode, your goal is to aquire your oposing teams "zone". To do this there are a number of stratagies.<br />
<br />
== Strategies ==<br />
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* Use one or more players to defend your base looping around it and generally keeping the other team(s) out.<br />
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* If theres more then 3 people on your team and your off to the side try turning off earlier so the guy in the center isn't stuck and will not end up plowing into an enimy wall.<br />
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* Try bulldozing through the other teams offence using yourself as a kamikazi, you can blow a hole in the other teams defence and let another player on your team get through easier.<br />
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* If the server has the team chat code use it (/team ''secret message here'') using this is helpful for building stratagy and keeping your enemies in the dark.<br />
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== Screen shots ==<br />
<br />
TODO</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=2136Talk:Main Page2005-11-03T03:35:34Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>Any particular reason your locking everything? I thought it was for players to edit and add stuff they thought people should know?<br />
<br />
--TiTnAsS<br />
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I locked exactly two pages, the main page, and the page that explains why I locked the main page. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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Yarr, but why was the other one locked? O_o <br />
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--TiTnAsS<br />
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So nobody could edit it? Maybe you could read it and find out, that way I don't have to type the reason twice. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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Just a reminder for Luci: make the lag section. Also, can we get a game mode section?<br />
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-- TiTnAsS<br />
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You're getting a Miscellaneous section, and periodically when complete sections develop from it then we'll worry about how to link them in, right?<br />
<br />
Also, a player's guide. You can talk about lag and game modes there. Makes sense, right? Server Admin Guide, Player Guide.<br />
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''--Lucifer''<br />
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Yup, sounds good.<br />
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-- TiTnAsS<br />
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How about having the wiki policy on the front page?<br />
<br />
-- TiTnAsS<br />
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Is that so people who post to the talk page of the front page will remember to leave their name and a horizontal line?<br />
<br />
Other than that, it doesn't really belong here. A feed of newest pages would be better. I'll look at what wikipedia uses for their front page, that's along the lines of what should be here. ''--Lucifer''<br />
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I'm sry i actually thought i did.. <br />
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- TiTnAsS<br />
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Can we get rid of that News section and make it a link, the each day put the date and the new news? We would put the new news on top, but never delete the old, and if there wasnt any news just say No significant news today. That would be cool to be able to look back on past news and stuff. (in the following i wasnt sure how to color text, but the "IMPORANT" would be red :). The kind of news that would go here is:<br />
<br />
== News ==<br />
<br />
IMPORTANT: 1/1/06: <br />
New ArmagetronAD version 1.0.0 "Bacchus" has been released. It <br />
includes all of the following fixes and features: <br />
blah blah blah...<br />
<br />
----<br />
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12/9/05: <br />
Lucifer has been elected President of the United States, ALL <br />
REJOICE! Now cannibalism is legal!<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
12/5/05: <br />
Tigers Network has returned! Its back with better settings <br />
then ever, some of the new settings include: new flying cycles, <br />
a statue in the middle dedicated to Tank Program and an all new <br />
moviepack!<br />
<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 19:08, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Go read the MediaWiki docs and figure out how to do it and I'll be happy to do it. I tried already to get it to show a feed of latest articles, I'd like that and about 4-5 news items. I think that would be cool. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:37, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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- [[User:Nemostultae|nemostultae]] 20:15, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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We don't need special commands to do it, ill make one and you can revert if you guys dun like it okey?<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:27, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Why oh why. Hm. Yeah, we do need special commands to do it. Ideally, each news item would be a separate, detailed article, and we'd just feed the headlines and summaries to the front page. Over time, doing it manually becomes very difficult to maintain, and eventually makes it impossible to do certain things with the news. Pretty frustrating.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:29, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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check how it is now, i think that is fine for now. Or at least give it a try? it wont be to much of a pain to maintain... besides i like the colors :).. if not ill put it back :/<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:44, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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We're on the same page for what it looks like, but you're going to have to trust me that a manually-edited feed is a pain to maintain. Here, look at this:<br />
http://jameshoward.us/Main_Page<br />
<br />
Also, dark colors on light or light colors on dark, but never light colors on light. Reason? Visually impaired people can't read them at all. Except for the really blind, who use a screen reader, but I imagine those folks aren't likely to be playing the game in the first place.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 21:51, 29 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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ok so here are my suggestions for the main page. if this is the first page that potential new players visit, which it should be, then there should be several screen shots, and possible some art and a title of some sort other than Main Page. ---''raoul''<br />
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It's not actually supposed to be the first page potential players visit, we have a new website for that. This is for people already playing, and for new players who have found the game and played it and want to learn more.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 03:34, 30 October 2005 (CST)<br />
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on the main page, How about putting pictures of light cycle with long trails and having quotes from players written on the trails?<br />
<br />
(pinkbike)-(trail)better then Bottled water-nemo(/trail)<br />
<br />
(purplebike)-(trail)try the crack pipe-luci(/trail)<br />
<br />
etc etc<br />
<br />
-- Your_mom<br />
<br />
* Sure, upload the graphics (link in the toolbox on the lower left) and come back here and put the filenames and I'll take care of it. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 18:36, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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* what size should they be? i have it at 915x35 wxh of course should the tail be shorter/longer? and what colors--Your_mom<br />
** Try not to make the width more than 200px unless you really need a few extra pixels. A hard limit of about 275. Then whatever height you need. Colors? I don't know, pick some. :) Also, can you make one with alpha instead of cycle color? And without text on the trail? I could use that at some point to use dynamic colors and text. :) --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:19, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
*** http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Image:Bikewht.png i have different colored ones is this what we where looking for --Your_mom<br />
*** I don't know, is that what you were thinking? That's about the width you generally want on a web page where you need to intersperse text with the graphics, but is it what you were thinking about how it should look? --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:59, 2 November 2005 (CST) (P.S. if you use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for your signature, your wiki username and a timestamp will be put there instead)<br />
***[[image:Biketest1000.png|left|]] <br />
can you right over top of that inside the wiki?, think that would be ok?, yeah it wasnt the look i was going for, but this is slightly better -- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 20:21, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
**** The cycle's kinda small. Maybe a larger cycle? It's ok if the cycle size doesn't quite go with the wall size, that makes the picture more cartoony anyway. I know you can associate text with an image, but I don't know if you can specify whether to show the text on top or on bottom of the picture. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 20:25, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image#Putting_text_in_an_image.2C_superimposing_images.2C_e.g._for_locator_maps http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Image:Bikex5.png<br />
-- [[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 20:57, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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<div style="position: relative">[[Image:Bikex5.png]]<br />
<div style="position: absolute; left: 5px; top: 0px"><br />
{| style="background:transparent"<br />
|- <br />
| ________ testing this is for the weaks- blah blah<br />
|}<br />
</div><br />
</div><br />
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if i knew how to change font size and color it might look better-- mom<br />
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Heh, when you figure it out tell me, i wanna post one in ym names link. It'll say "THE DRUMMER FROM DEATH LEOPARD ONLY HAS ONE ARM!!"-Blood Hound Gang.. lol</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=News&diff=2135News2005-11-03T03:30:52Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>The current scoop in the community of ArmagetronAD! News on anything from <br />
Lucifer becoming president and legalizing cannibalism, to a new verson being released. Newest news is on top, and the further down you go, the older the news becomes. <br />
Date format: Y:M:D <br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-11-2:</span><br />
Since there is a difference in opinions on the timestamp for the <br />
news letter, I, TNA, am planning on writing a little PHP script. <br />
I plan on it being something simple, like "####" or something stupid <br />
like that to trigger it. What it will do is stamp the time where you <br />
put it. It will look like this:<br />
<br />
<span style="color:darkgreen">#"???" => the posters current time in their time zone.<br />
##Post discussions on it under the discussions page.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="color:darkgreen">Y:M:D:time-GMT D:M:Y:time-???</span><br />
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<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-31:</span><br />
Happy halloween yall :)... <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-30:</span><br />
Lucifers new server is currently up for. Its named <br />
"[[Labyrinth]]". It is intended to be a permenent server. For more <br />
information goto the labyrinth link. Belly of the beast is <br />
indefinately down. Lucifer might run another Fortress server, and it <br />
will take the name "[[Belly of the Beast]]".<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Well, the skin isn't perfect, there are some rough edges, but I went <br />
ahead and made it the default skin. If you like the old skin better,<br />
it's called "monobook", and you can still use it by going to your <br />
preferences page and changing it.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
There is a new skin available for you to look at. It's nowhere<br />
near finished, but you can look at it anyway. You need to be <br />
registered, of course. Then go look at [[Special:preferences]] and <br />
click "Skins". It's called, predictably, armagetronad. ;)<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Welcome, this is the new news for the wiki and ArmagetronAD. Its <br />
made for social news also, including information about servers and <br />
things like that.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Belly_of_the_Beast&diff=2134Belly of the Beast2005-11-03T03:29:47Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>This server is run by Lucifer. Its indefinately down, but Lucifer might run another [[Fortress]] server using the same name.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=News&diff=2132News2005-11-03T03:28:11Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>The current scoop in the community of ArmagetronAD! News on anything from <br />
Lucifer becoming president and legalizing cannibalism, to a new verson being released. Newest news is on top, and the further down you go, the older the news becomes. <br />
Date format: Y:M:D <br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-11-2:</span><br />
Since there is a difference in opinions on the timestamp for the <br />
news letter, I, TNA, am planning on writing a little PHP script. <br />
I plan on it being something simple, like "####" or something stupid <br />
like that to trigger it. What it will do is stamp the time where you <br />
put it. It will look like this:<br />
<br />
<span style="color:darkgreen">#"???" => the posters current time in their time zone.<br />
##Post discussions on it under the discussions page.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="color:darkgreen">Y:M:D:time-GMT D:M:Y:time-???</span><br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-31:</span><br />
Happy halloween yall :)... <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-30:</span><br />
Lucifers new server is currently up for. Its named <br />
"[[Labyrinth]]". It is intended to be a permenent server. For more <br />
information goto the labyrinth link. Belly of the beast is <br />
indefinately down. Lucifer might run another Fortress server, and it <br />
will take the name [[Belly of the Beast]].<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Well, the skin isn't perfect, there are some rough edges, but I went <br />
ahead and made it the default skin. If you like the old skin better,<br />
it's called "monobook", and you can still use it by going to your <br />
preferences page and changing it.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
There is a new skin available for you to look at. It's nowhere<br />
near finished, but you can look at it anyway. You need to be <br />
registered, of course. Then go look at [[Special:preferences]] and <br />
click "Skins". It's called, predictably, armagetronad. ;)<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Welcome, this is the new news for the wiki and ArmagetronAD. Its <br />
made for social news also, including information about servers and <br />
things like that.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=News&diff=2131News2005-11-03T03:26:02Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>The current scoop in the community of ArmagetronAD! News on anything from <br />
Lucifer becoming president and legalizing cannibalism, to a new verson being released. Newest news is on top, and the further down you go, the older the news becomes. <br />
Date format: D-M-Y <br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-11-2:</span><br />
Since there is a difference in opinions on the timestamp for the <br />
news letter, I, TNA, am planning on writing a little PHP script. <br />
I plan on it being something simple, like "####" or something stupid <br />
like that to trigger it. What it will do is stamp the time where you <br />
put it. It will look like this:<br />
<br />
<code>#"???" => the posters current time in their time zone.<br />
##Post discussions on it under the discussions page.<br />
<br />
Y:M:D:time-GMT D:M:Y:time-???</code><br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-31:</span><br />
Happy halloween yall :)... <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-30:</span><br />
Lucifers new server is currently up for. Its named <br />
"[[Labyrinth]]". It is intended to be a permenent server. For more <br />
information goto the labyrinth link. Belly of the beast is <br />
indefinately down. Lucifer might run another Fortress server, and it <br />
will take the name [[Belly of the Beast]].<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Well, the skin isn't perfect, there are some rough edges, but I went <br />
ahead and made it the default skin. If you like the old skin better,<br />
it's called "monobook", and you can still use it by going to your <br />
preferences page and changing it.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
There is a new skin available for you to look at. It's nowhere<br />
near finished, but you can look at it anyway. You need to be <br />
registered, of course. Then go look at [[Special:preferences]] and <br />
click "Skins". It's called, predictably, armagetronad. ;)<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Welcome, this is the new news for the wiki and ArmagetronAD. Its <br />
made for social news also, including information about servers and <br />
things like that.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=News&diff=2130News2005-11-03T03:25:28Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>The current scoop in the community of ArmagetronAD! News on anything from <br />
Lucifer becoming president and legalizing cannibalism, to a new verson being released. Newest news is on top, and the further down you go, the older the news becomes. <br />
Date format: D-M-Y <br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-11-2:</span><br />
Since there is a difference in opinions on the timestamp for the <br />
news letter, I, TNA, am planning on writing a little PHP script. <br />
I plan on it being something simple, like "####" or something stupid <br />
like that to trigger it. What it will do is stamp the time where you <br />
put it. It will look like this:<br />
<br />
<code>#"???" => the posters current time in their time zone.<br />
##Post discussions on it under the discussions page.<br />
<br />
Y:M:D:time-GMT D:M:Y:time-???</code><br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-31:</span><br />
Happy halloween yall :)... <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-30:</span><br />
Lucifers new server is currently up for. Its named <br />
"[[Labyrinth]]". It is intended to be a permenent server. For more <br />
information goto the labyrinth link. Belly of the beast is <br />
indefinately down. Lucifer might run another Fortress server, and it <br />
will take the name [[Belly of the Beast]].<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Well, the skin isn't perfect, there are some rough edges, but I went <br />
ahead and made it the default skin. If you like the old skin better,<br />
it's called "monobook", and you can still use it by going to your <br />
preferences page and changing it.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
There is a new skin available for you to look at. It's nowhere<br />
near finished, but you can look at it anyway. You need to be <br />
registered, of course. Then go look at [[Special:preferences]] and <br />
click "Skins". It's called, predictably, armagetronad. ;)<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Welcome, this is the new news for the wiki and ArmagetronAD. Its <br />
made for social news also, including information about servers and <br />
things like that.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=News&diff=2129News2005-11-03T03:24:59Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>The current scoop in the community of ArmagetronAD! News on anything from <br />
Lucifer becoming president and legalizing cannibalism, to a new verson being released. Newest news is on top, and the further down you go, the older the news becomes. <br />
Date format: D-M-Y <br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-11-2:</span><br />
Since there is a difference in opinions on the timestamp for the <br />
news letter, I, TNA, am planning on writing a little PHP script. <br />
I plan on it being something simple, like "####" or something stupid <br />
like that to trigger it. What it will do is stamp the time where you <br />
put it. It will look like this:<br />
<br />
<code>#"???" => the posters current time in their time zone.<br />
##Post discussions on it under the discussions page.<br />
Y:M:D:time-GMT D:M:Y:time-???</code><br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-31:</span><br />
Happy halloween yall :)... <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-30:</span><br />
Lucifers new server is currently up for. Its named <br />
"[[Labyrinth]]". It is intended to be a permenent server. For more <br />
information goto the labyrinth link. Belly of the beast is <br />
indefinately down. Lucifer might run another Fortress server, and it <br />
will take the name [[Belly of the Beast]].<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Well, the skin isn't perfect, there are some rough edges, but I went <br />
ahead and made it the default skin. If you like the old skin better,<br />
it's called "monobook", and you can still use it by going to your <br />
preferences page and changing it.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
There is a new skin available for you to look at. It's nowhere<br />
near finished, but you can look at it anyway. You need to be <br />
registered, of course. Then go look at [[Special:preferences]] and <br />
click "Skins". It's called, predictably, armagetronad. ;)<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Welcome, this is the new news for the wiki and ArmagetronAD. Its <br />
made for social news also, including information about servers and <br />
things like that.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:News&diff=2128Talk:News2005-11-03T03:12:25Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>Can't we use dates like 2005-11-02? They make more sense. :-) Also, today is 2005-11-02 in my time zone but 2005-11-01 in the server's. What do we do about that? --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 19:11, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Use GMT? Ill format the dates like that, when we decide if were gonna use GMT or not i'll change that around to ;). EDIT: since the <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> thing is in CST, why dont we use that?<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:21, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Also, how come im the only one whos added any news? O_O lol<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:32, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
(any guidelines on responding to old messages? I've seen another wiki use nested bullet lists)<br />
<br />
* That's a good idea. We should probably sign each level of nesting, eh? --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 02:29, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
At least the zone used should be clear, and preferably consistent and relatively widely-known (UTC/GMT?). No, this line isn't meant to be specific to dates people put on pages.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] {{CURRENTTIME}}, {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)<br />
<br />
* Yeah, I was thinking dates should include a zone and offset, so for example I'd mark my own entires with CST (-6). (I think it's -6 here, I could be mistaken). Americans and anyone else who knows can see I'm in central time and do the math if they'd like, everyone else can fall back to the offset given and work off UTC with it. I definitely think the local time zone for who posts the news item is more important than putting a UTC timestamp on it.<br />
Otherwise, if anyone knows if there's a macro or something to insert the date, that should probably be used. Then we can let mediawiki figure it out. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 02:29, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
I'm really surprised there is no simple macro for dates that renders them according to the reader's taste... --[[User:Luke-Jr|Luke-Jr]] 12:43, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Does anybody feel like coding one? It should look like <code>¿¡ISO 8601 date here!?</code>, where the ¿¡!? are replaced with more suitable opening and closing tags. --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 13:50, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Uhh if i can do it in Python with what i've already learned, luci can judge if ive learned enough, i'll give it a shot..<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 18:16, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
* Has to be php, the wiki is in php. I'm not sure if you know enough or not, depends on how much of what you know you've been able to both internalize and generalize. ;) Times listed are in CST because the server is in CST, but the time a user posts an item makes a difference independently from the server's time. I think it's useful to know if the crazy German posted at 3am his time or not, and I'd rather see that and an offset from UTC rather than a CST time and a username. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]]<br />
** Of course, <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> can be changed to generate times in the editor's time zone, including offset. The reader can then set his preferences in his preferences. :-) --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 19:27, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
*** Better to make it a more general case change, have it store in UTC and then change it to the user's preference. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 19:33, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
**** You contradicted the last sentence at the first bullet level. --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 20:01, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
***** And your point is _____? There's no contradiction. In the first bullet I was talking about a time that the user manually enters, in the more recent bullet I was talking about a time that the wiki stores and then computes for display. Since I was talking about two different things, there's no contradiction. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 20:18, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
***** Pardon me, in the first bullet I was talking about a time that the wiki computes when the record is stored, and in the second a time that the wiki converts to UTC when the record is stored, and ''''then'''' converts again when its displayed. I'm still wondering what your point is, though. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 20:20, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
****** I may have misunderstood you. I thought you wanted to know the time in the editor's time zone? (and of course the wiki should be able to display anything in any zone based on the viewer's preferences) --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 20:34, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
******* Ah, there's several comments that aren't combined that might need to be. :) If we have to manually enter the date, then the most reasonable compromise I can think of is for the editor to put his timezone and its offset. If the wiki is going to process a macro when the item is written (the same way our signatures are processed), then it should be put in the editor's timezone with an offset. Because in that situation the wiki is just doing a more automated version of what the user does manually entering the time. However, if the wiki is going to store a time to show when the news item was made, timestamping it, then it should be timestamped with UTC. From there we can decide, should it show according to the editor's time zone or should it show according to the reader's time zone, or according to the server's timezone? This last decision should be in User:Preferences and have a reasonable default. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 20:40, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
******* PS: I don't know what the wiki does, but if it currently transforms <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> into a hardcoded time stamp, then I think that should be changed to store a UTC as well. :)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
On a different note, can we get more accurate news reporting? Labyrinth isn't a "test" server, I'm intending it to be permanent. The settings might change, but I want a maze server, and there it is. :) Also, Belly of the Beast isn't down "temporarily", it's down "indefinitely". I may or may not bring it back up. If I bring up a fortress server, it will probably be called "Belly of the Beast", and it's likely it'll use maps generated from the maze generator program. :) Anyway, nitpicks mostly, but I've noticed other inaccuracies I haven't a chance to correct that are more important than these.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 18:23, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Tell me any of these of inaccuracies so i can fix em O_o. Ill fix those ones right now. Also, when get around to it I think ill try to write that for PHP, i'll have it include GMT, then their local timezone after, and note which is which. I don't mind fixing anything you have a problem with, but i cant unless you tell me it :-/<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 21:12, 2 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Labyrinth&diff=2100Talk:Labyrinth2005-11-03T00:21:32Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>can we get a screenshot? i can't go in it yet.....no beta 3 for mac...---[[User:Raoul Duke| ''raoul'']]<br />
<br />
I need to format is like the Fortress page is formatted.. im kinda lazy right now so this is a reminder for me to do it later :)..<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 18:21, 2 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=News&diff=2099News2005-11-03T00:17:56Z<p>TiTnAsS: fixed a date</p>
<hr />
<div>The current scoop in the community of ArmagetronAD! News on anything from <br />
Lucifer becoming president and legalizing cannibalism, to a new verson being released. Newest news is on top, and the further down you go, the older the news becomes. <br />
Date format: D-M-Y (CST) <br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-11-1:</span><br />
Any complaints toward the time being CST, take to the discussion <br />
page. Until someone disagrees thats how it will be. <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-31:</span><br />
Happy halloween yall :)... <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-30:</span><br />
Lucifers new "mazing" server is currently up for testing. Its <br />
named "[[Labyrinth]]". While this server is up,<br />
"[[Belly of the Beast]]", will temporarily be down.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Well, the skin isn't perfect, there are some rough edges, but I went <br />
ahead and made it the default skin. If you like the old skin better,<br />
it's called "monobook", and you can still use it by going to your <br />
preferences page and changing it.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
There is a new skin available for you to look at. It's nowhere<br />
near finished, but you can look at it anyway. You need to be <br />
registered, of course. Then go look at [[Special:preferences]] and <br />
click "Skins". It's called, predictably, armagetronad. ;)<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Welcome, this is the new news for the wiki and ArmagetronAD. Its <br />
made for social news also, including information about servers and <br />
things like that.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:News&diff=2098Talk:News2005-11-03T00:16:38Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>Can't we use dates like 2005-11-02? They make more sense. :-) Also, today is 2005-11-02 in my time zone but 2005-11-01 in the server's. What do we do about that? --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 19:11, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Use GMT? Ill format the dates like that, when we decide if were gonna use GMT or not i'll change that around to ;). EDIT: since the <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> thing is in CST, why dont we use that?<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:21, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Also, how come im the only one whos added any news? O_O lol<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:32, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
(any guidelines on responding to old messages? I've seen another wiki use nested bullet lists)<br />
<br />
* That's a good idea. We should probably sign each level of nesting, eh? --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 02:29, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
At least the zone used should be clear, and preferably consistent and relatively widely-known (UTC/GMT?). No, this line isn't meant to be specific to dates people put on pages.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] {{CURRENTTIME}}, {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)<br />
<br />
* Yeah, I was thinking dates should include a zone and offset, so for example I'd mark my own entires with CST (-6). (I think it's -6 here, I could be mistaken). Americans and anyone else who knows can see I'm in central time and do the math if they'd like, everyone else can fall back to the offset given and work off UTC with it. I definitely think the local time zone for who posts the news item is more important than putting a UTC timestamp on it.<br />
Otherwise, if anyone knows if there's a macro or something to insert the date, that should probably be used. Then we can let mediawiki figure it out. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 02:29, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
I'm really surprised there is no simple macro for dates that renders them according to the reader's taste... --[[User:Luke-Jr|Luke-Jr]] 12:43, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Does anybody feel like coding one? It should look like <code>¿¡ISO 8601 date here!?</code>, where the ¿¡!? are replaced with more suitable opening and closing tags. --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 13:50, 2 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Uhh if i can do it in Python with what i've already learned, luci can judge if ive learned enough, i'll give it a shot..<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 18:16, 2 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:News&diff=2093Talk:News2005-11-02T04:32:14Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>Can't we use dates like 2005-11-02? They make more sense. :-) Also, today is 2005-11-02 in my time zone but 2005-11-01 in the server's. What do we do about that? --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 19:11, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Use GMT? Ill format the dates like that, when we decide if were gonna use GMT or not i'll change that around to ;). EDIT: since the <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> thing is in CST, why dont we use that?<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:21, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Also, how come im the only one whos added any news? O_O lol<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:32, 1 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=News&diff=2092News2005-11-02T04:31:38Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>The current scoop in the community of ArmagetronAD! News on anything from <br />
Lucifer becoming president and legalizing cannibalism, to a new verson being released. Newest news is on top, and the further down you go, the older the news becomes. <br />
Date format: D-M-Y (CST) <br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-31:</span><br />
Any complaints toward the time being CST, take to the discussion <br />
page. Until someone disagrees thats how it will be. <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-31:</span><br />
Happy halloween yall :)... <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-30:</span><br />
Lucifers new "mazing" server is currently up for testing. Its <br />
named "[[Labyrinth]]". While this server is up,<br />
"[[Belly of the Beast]]", will temporarily be down.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Well, the skin isn't perfect, there are some rough edges, but I went <br />
ahead and made it the default skin. If you like the old skin better,<br />
it's called "monobook", and you can still use it by going to your <br />
preferences page and changing it.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
There is a new skin available for you to look at. It's nowhere<br />
near finished, but you can look at it anyway. You need to be <br />
registered, of course. Then go look at [[Special:preferences]] and <br />
click "Skins". It's called, predictably, armagetronad. ;)<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">2005-10-29:</span><br />
Welcome, this is the new news for the wiki and ArmagetronAD. Its <br />
made for social news also, including information about servers and <br />
things like that.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:News&diff=2091Talk:News2005-11-02T04:23:20Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>Can't we use dates like 2005-11-02? They make more sense. :-) Also, today is 2005-11-02 in my time zone but 2005-11-01 in the server's. What do we do about that? --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 19:11, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Use GMT? Ill format the dates like that, when we decide if were gonna use GMT or not i'll change that around to ;). EDIT: since the <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> thing is in CST, why dont we use that?<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:21, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:News&diff=2090Talk:News2005-11-02T04:21:31Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>Can't we use dates like 2005-11-02? They make more sense. :-) Also, today is 2005-11-02 in my time zone but 2005-11-01 in the server's. What do we do about that? --[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] 19:11, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Use GMT? Ill format the dates like that, when we decide if were gonna use GMT or not i'll change that around to ;).<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 22:21, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_the_Game&diff=2075Talk:Playing the Game2005-11-01T07:19:25Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>Is there a way to tell whos logged in and working on what? cuz i dunno if your here fixing the description "blah" or accidentally left it and logged off lol..<br />
<br />
--TiTnAsS<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
No, no way. I'm not working on it, though, so knock yourself out. ''--Lucifer''<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Um, can we drop stuff like "non-official" and "official"? We don't need all this weird formality. :) There isn't really anything official anyway, except releases. So talk about variations of the game that people have set up. Make a Variations section on this page, and then underneath put some subheadings for the variations, and those would link to a page about them.<br />
<br />
That page should contain information for players playing that variation and also information for server admins to set up a server under that variation.<br />
<br />
Come to think of it, make a new page that lists variations, and we'll transclude that page here and in the Server Admin page.<br />
<br />
Just try to keep in mind that there's nothing "official" or "non-official" about it. In the game we try to provide primitives that server admins and players can use to make games that are fun to play, and that's all this "Fortress mode" thing is. It's just a primitive game object that map makers can put on the grid and server admins can do so too.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 22:17, 30 October 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Now you can see how I meant to do the transclusion. :) Edit [[Game Variations]] to add new variations and it'll automatically be included on pages where it's been included.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 01:16, 1 November 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
<br />
Ah, i misunderstood you..<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 01:19, 1 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Links&diff=2073Talk:Links2005-11-01T07:17:44Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Armagetron_Advanced_Wiki:Community_Portal..... combine one with the other please. Or i will when i get around to it.<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 01:17, 1 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:AANews&diff=2066Talk:AANews2005-11-01T07:13:45Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>This is on the front page of the site, why on earth do we need it here?....<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 01:13, 1 November 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=2064Main Page2005-11-01T07:08:30Z<p>TiTnAsS: dropped "this section might be locked..."</p>
<hr />
<div>This is the Armagetron Advanced Wiki Project. It is a wiki, so you can edit most pages and add new ones, as your heart desires.<br />
__NOTOC__<br />
{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --><br />
<br />
== [[News]] ==<br />
<br />
ArmagetronAD community news.<br />
<br />
== Main page ==<br />
The wiki is coming along very nice, but its still incomplete. Anyone have any ideas to spice the main page up or add anything to it? Post it in the discussion page and we will see about doing it.<br />
<br />
== Other stuff ==<br />
<br />
{{Newpagelinksmain}} <!-- Template:Newpagelinksmain --><br />
<br />
{{Popularpages}}</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Labyrinth&diff=2062Labyrinth2005-11-01T07:06:53Z<p>TiTnAsS: dropped official/non-official</p>
<hr />
<div>This server is run by Lucifer. Its a test server for new game modes created in [[CVS]] or thought up by any of the developers. The current game mode being run on it is a series of mazes. Lucifer thought up a [[Python]] script that duplicates a new maze every 5 minutes. The point of this server is to get to the middle of the maze to be awarded points. This is a mode, somewhat like [[fortress]].</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Playing_the_Game&diff=2061Playing the Game2005-11-01T07:04:43Z<p>TiTnAsS: dropped "non-official"</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --><br />
<br />
This is a page to talk about stuff for players. I didn't write anything because I know you all are just dying to write all your secrets in this wiki. ;)<br />
<br />
== [[The Object of the Game]] ==<br />
<br />
A brief introduction to Armagetron Advanced.<br />
<br />
== [[Player Tricks]] ==<br />
<br />
Tricks players can use to differentiate themselves from other players or simplify their playing experience.<br />
<br />
== [[Grid Games]] ==<br />
<br />
Sometimes players like to play games that are a bit different than the regular game. Maybe you've seen it and you thought they were camping? Maybe you've tried to play along and had a spot of trouble? Read here to find out all about it.<br />
<br />
== [[Game Modes]] ==<br />
<br />
These are settings that allow for different game play styles or modes.<br />
<br />
== [[Camping]] ==<br />
<br />
Page about camping.<br />
<br />
== [[Lag]] ==<br />
<br />
Page about lag.<br />
<br />
== [[Frames Per Second]] ==<br />
<br />
Page about FPS.<br />
<br />
== [[Console]] ==<br />
<br />
Using the console.<br />
<br />
== [[Effects and Display]] ==<br />
<br />
A guide to video effects and display.<br />
<br />
== [[Playing Maps]] ==<br />
<br />
Your complete guide to installing a map into Armagetron Advanced and configuring the game to play it for you. It does not include how to make a map, you'll need to saunter over to [[Extending Armagetron Advanced]] for that.<br />
<br />
{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=News&diff=2060News2005-11-01T07:03:20Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>The current scoop in the community of ArmagetronAD! News on anything from <br />
Lucifer becoming president and legalizing cannibalism, to a new verson being released. Newest news is on top, and the further down you go, the older the news becomes.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">10/31/2005:</span><br />
Happy halloween yall :)... <br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">10/30/2005:</span><br />
Lucifers new "mazing" server is currently up for testing. Its <br />
named "[[Labyrinth]]". While this server is up,<br />
"[[Belly of the Beast]]", will temporarily be down.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">10/29/2005:</span><br />
Well, the skin isn't perfect, there are some rough edges, but I went <br />
ahead and made it the default skin. If you like the old skin better,<br />
it's called "monobook", and you can still use it by going to your <br />
preferences page and changing it.<br />
<br />
<span style="color:blueviolet">10/29/2005:</span><br />
There is a new skin available for you to look at. It's nowhere<br />
near finished, but you can look at it anyway. You need to be <br />
registered, of course. Then go look at [[Special:preferences]] and <br />
click "Skins". It's called, predictably, armagetronad. ;)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Fortress&diff=2042Fortress2005-10-31T04:16:22Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>== History ==<br />
<br />
Proof of concept of Fortress mode was created by Z-Man, and is still in the works.<br />
<br />
== Objective ==<br />
<br />
In this mode, your goal is to aquire your oposing teams "zone". To do this there are a number of stratagies.<br />
<br />
== Stratagies ==<br />
<br />
TODO<br />
<br />
== Screen shots ==<br />
<br />
TODO</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Playing_the_Game&diff=2040Playing the Game2005-10-31T04:13:07Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --><br />
<br />
This is a page to talk about stuff for players. I didn't write anything because I know you all are just dying to write all your secrets in this wiki. ;)<br />
<br />
== [[The Object of the Game]] ==<br />
<br />
A brief introduction to Armagetron Advanced.<br />
<br />
== [[Player Tricks]] ==<br />
<br />
Tricks players can use to differentiate themselves from other players or simplify their playing experience.<br />
<br />
== [[Grid Games]] ==<br />
<br />
Sometimes players like to play games that are a bit different than the regular game. Maybe you've seen it and you thought they were camping? Maybe you've tried to play along and had a spot of trouble? Read here to find out all about it.<br />
<br />
== [[Game Modes]] ==<br />
<br />
These are non-official settings that allow for different game play styles or modes.<br />
<br />
== [[Camping]] ==<br />
<br />
Page about camping.<br />
<br />
== [[Lag]] ==<br />
<br />
Page about lag.<br />
<br />
== [[Frames Per Second]] ==<br />
<br />
Page about FPS.<br />
<br />
== [[Console]] ==<br />
<br />
Using the console.<br />
<br />
== [[Effects and Display]] ==<br />
<br />
A guide to video effects and display.<br />
<br />
== [[Playing Maps]] ==<br />
<br />
Your complete guide to installing a map into Armagetron Advanced and configuring the game to play it for you. It does not include how to make a map, you'll need to saunter over to [[Extending Armagetron Advanced]] for that.<br />
<br />
{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Extending_Armagetron_Advanced&diff=2039Extending Armagetron Advanced2005-10-31T04:11:44Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --><br />
<br />
People like to extend and hack on Armagetron Advanced. Normally they just make moviepacks, sometimes they make other things. Maybe you'd like to make something but you just don't know where to start or what to do. These pages should give you some help in that pursuit.<br />
<br />
== [[Map Making]] ==<br />
<br />
How to make maps. Also, how to make fun maps. You'll find some other resources here, such as links to all existing graphical map editors and so forth. Everything you need to know to make a killer map, that is.<br />
<br />
== [[Model Formats]] ==<br />
<br />
If you want to make a new model, you're going to need to know what formats are supported by what parts of the code and where to put them. This is part of making a moviepack, but deserves its own separate discussion.<br />
<br />
== [[Textures]] ==<br />
<br />
How do you make textures? Where do you put them? What possibilities are there that are known? You'll have to dream up new possibilities yourself.<br />
<br />
== [[Moviepacks]] ==<br />
<br />
Wrapping it all up, put your model and textures into a moviepack! Here are directions on how to do exactly that and distribute it.<br />
<br />
== [[Code hacks]] ==<br />
<br />
What code hacks are available? If you've got a compiler available and a little bit of programming abilities, there are plenty of fun things you can do to the game directly. Who knows? Do something cool and put it here and it might make it into a future version of the game.<br />
<br />
== [[Console]] ==<br />
<br />
Using the Console. ''UB3RL33T H4X 1N51D3''<br />
<br />
== [[CVS]] ==<br />
<br />
Page on what CVS is, and how it works.<br />
<br />
== [[Programming Languages]] ==<br />
<br />
Programming languages we use and a short description on what we use them for.<br />
<br />
{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Code_hacks&diff=2037Code hacks2005-10-31T04:08:34Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>From time to time people do various hacks to the code or write various scripts and programs to support the game. We'll try to collect them here so you can use them too. If you have a hack you'd like to add, just add it here. For it to format correctly, put <br />
<code> <pre><br />
<nowiki> <br />
"<pre> <br />
Copy paste your script here, in the space inbetween the code and pre commands.<br />
</pre> </code>" </nowiki> </pre><br />
Note: there is no <nowiki><code></nowiki> in front of the script.<br />
<br />
<br />
== TiTnAsS pro version of "Take" ==<br />
<br />
<pre><br />
numMatches = 15<br />
player1 = raw_input("Player 1's name: ")<br />
player2 = raw_input("Player 2's name: ")<br />
players = (player1,player2)<br />
currentPlayer = 0<br />
print "The rules to this game are simple."<br />
print "You can't take more then 3 matches."<br />
print "The person to take the last match is the loser."<br />
print "Good luck! :)"<br />
while numMatches > 0:<br />
print " "<br />
print "It's",players[currentPlayer] + "'s","turn."<br />
print "There are",numMatches,"matches left."<br />
inputValid = False<br />
while inputValid is not True:<br />
numTaken = str(raw_input("How many matches do you want to take? ") )<br />
if numTaken.isdigit():<br />
numTaken = int(numTaken)<br />
if numTaken > 3 or numTaken <= 0:<br />
print "You must pick 1-3 matches. You picked " + str(numTaken)<br />
else:<br />
inputValid = True<br />
else:<br />
print "You must enter a number from 1 to 3."<br />
numMatches = numMatches - numTaken<br />
currentPlayer = 1 - currentPlayer<br />
print players[currentPlayer],"is the winner!" <br />
</pre> </code></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Code_hacks&diff=2036Code hacks2005-10-31T04:07:14Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>From time to time people do various hacks to the code or write various scripts and programs to support the game. We'll try to collect them here so you can use them too. If you have a hack you'd like to add, just add it here. For it to format correctly, put <br />
<code> <pre><br />
<nowiki> <br />
"<code> <pre> <br />
Copy paste your script here, in the space inbetween the code and pre commands.<br />
</pre> </code>" </nowiki> </pre><br />
<br />
== TiTnAsS pro version of "Take" ==<br />
<br />
<code> <pre><br />
numMatches = 15<br />
player1 = raw_input("Player 1's name: ")<br />
player2 = raw_input("Player 2's name: ")<br />
players = (player1,player2)<br />
currentPlayer = 0<br />
print "The rules to this game are simple."<br />
print "You can't take more then 3 matches."<br />
print "The person to take the last match is the loser."<br />
print "Good luck! :)"<br />
while numMatches > 0:<br />
print " "<br />
print "It's",players[currentPlayer] + "'s","turn."<br />
print "There are",numMatches,"matches left."<br />
inputValid = False<br />
while inputValid is not True:<br />
numTaken = str(raw_input("How many matches do you want to take? ") )<br />
if numTaken.isdigit():<br />
numTaken = int(numTaken)<br />
if numTaken > 3 or numTaken <= 0:<br />
print "You must pick 1-3 matches. You picked " + str(numTaken)<br />
else:<br />
inputValid = True<br />
else:<br />
print "You must enter a number from 1 to 3."<br />
numMatches = numMatches - numTaken<br />
currentPlayer = 1 - currentPlayer<br />
print players[currentPlayer],"is the winner!" <br />
</pre> </code></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Code_hacks&diff=2035Code hacks2005-10-31T04:06:14Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>From time to time people do various hacks to the code or write various scripts and programs to support the game. We'll try to collect them here so you can use them too. If you have a hack you'd like to add, just add it here. For it to format correctly, put <nowiki> <br />
"<code> <pre> <br />
Copy paste your script here, in the space inbetween the code and pre commands.<br />
</pre> </code>" </nowiki><br />
<br />
== TiTnAsS pro version of "Take" ==<br />
<br />
<code> <pre><br />
numMatches = 15<br />
player1 = raw_input("Player 1's name: ")<br />
player2 = raw_input("Player 2's name: ")<br />
players = (player1,player2)<br />
currentPlayer = 0<br />
print "The rules to this game are simple."<br />
print "You can't take more then 3 matches."<br />
print "The person to take the last match is the loser."<br />
print "Good luck! :)"<br />
while numMatches > 0:<br />
print " "<br />
print "It's",players[currentPlayer] + "'s","turn."<br />
print "There are",numMatches,"matches left."<br />
inputValid = False<br />
while inputValid is not True:<br />
numTaken = str(raw_input("How many matches do you want to take? ") )<br />
if numTaken.isdigit():<br />
numTaken = int(numTaken)<br />
if numTaken > 3 or numTaken <= 0:<br />
print "You must pick 1-3 matches. You picked " + str(numTaken)<br />
else:<br />
inputValid = True<br />
else:<br />
print "You must enter a number from 1 to 3."<br />
numMatches = numMatches - numTaken<br />
currentPlayer = 1 - currentPlayer<br />
print players[currentPlayer],"is the winner!" <br />
</pre> </code></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Code_hacks&diff=2034Code hacks2005-10-31T04:03:37Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>From time to time people do various hacks to the code or write various scripts and programs to support the game. We'll try to collect them here so you can use them too. If you have a hack you'd like to add, just add it here.<br />
<br />
== TiTnAsS pro version of "Take" ==<br />
<br />
<code> <pre><br />
numMatches = 15<br />
player1 = raw_input("Player 1's name: ")<br />
player2 = raw_input("Player 2's name: ")<br />
players = (player1,player2)<br />
currentPlayer = 0<br />
print "The rules to this game are simple."<br />
print "You can't take more then 3 matches."<br />
print "The person to take the last match is the loser."<br />
print "Good luck! :)"<br />
while numMatches > 0:<br />
print " "<br />
print "It's",players[currentPlayer] + "'s","turn."<br />
print "There are",numMatches,"matches left."<br />
inputValid = False<br />
while inputValid is not True:<br />
numTaken = str(raw_input("How many matches do you want to take? ") )<br />
if numTaken.isdigit():<br />
numTaken = int(numTaken)<br />
if numTaken > 3 or numTaken <= 0:<br />
print "You must pick 1-3 matches. You picked " + str(numTaken)<br />
else:<br />
inputValid = True<br />
else:<br />
print "You must enter a number from 1 to 3."<br />
numMatches = numMatches - numTaken<br />
currentPlayer = 1 - currentPlayer<br />
print players[currentPlayer],"is the winner!" <br />
</pre> </code></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Fortress&diff=2031Fortress2005-10-31T01:39:52Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>== History ==<br />
<br />
This mode was created by Z-Man, and is still in the works. It is an official mode.<br />
<br />
== Objective ==<br />
<br />
In this mode, your goal is to aquire your oposing teams "zone". To do this there are a number of stratagies.<br />
<br />
== Stratagies ==<br />
<br />
TODO<br />
<br />
== Screen shots ==<br />
<br />
TODO</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Extending_Armagetron_Advanced&diff=2029Extending Armagetron Advanced2005-10-31T01:35:01Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --><br />
<br />
People like to extend and hack on Armagetron Advanced. Normally they just make moviepacks, sometimes they make other things. Maybe you'd like to make something but you just don't know where to start or what to do. These pages should give you some help in that pursuit.<br />
<br />
== [[Game Modes]] ==<br />
<br />
There are several official game modes. Don't put non-official game modes here, only official.<br />
<br />
== [[Map Making]] ==<br />
<br />
How to make maps. Also, how to make fun maps. You'll find some other resources here, such as links to all existing graphical map editors and so forth. Everything you need to know to make a killer map, that is.<br />
<br />
== [[Model Formats]] ==<br />
<br />
If you want to make a new model, you're going to need to know what formats are supported by what parts of the code and where to put them. This is part of making a moviepack, but deserves its own separate discussion.<br />
<br />
== [[Textures]] ==<br />
<br />
How do you make textures? Where do you put them? What possibilities are there that are known? You'll have to dream up new possibilities yourself.<br />
<br />
== [[Moviepacks]] ==<br />
<br />
Wrapping it all up, put your model and textures into a moviepack! Here are directions on how to do exactly that and distribute it.<br />
<br />
== [[Code hacks]] ==<br />
<br />
What code hacks are available? If you've got a compiler available and a little bit of programming abilities, there are plenty of fun things you can do to the game directly. Who knows? Do something cool and put it here and it might make it into a future version of the game.<br />
<br />
== [[Console]] ==<br />
<br />
Using the Console. ''UB3RL33T H4X 1N51D3''<br />
<br />
== [[CVS]] ==<br />
<br />
Page on what CVS is, and how it works.<br />
<br />
== [[Programming Languages]] ==<br />
<br />
Programming languages we use and a short description on what we use them for.<br />
<br />
{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Code_hacks&diff=2028Talk:Code hacks2005-10-31T00:27:48Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>it unformats when you copy paste the script -_-<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 16:43, 30 October 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Put it in code tags, <nowiki><code>my code</code></nowiki><br />
<br />
--[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 17:21, 30 October 2005 (CST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
I know, i already tried that, it still unformats, it drops all the indents and puts it into just a couple lines.<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 18:27, 30 October 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Code_hacks&diff=2026Talk:Code hacks2005-10-30T22:43:58Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>it unformats when you copy paste the script -_-<br />
<br />
[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 16:43, 30 October 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Extending_Armagetron_Advanced&diff=2021Extending Armagetron Advanced2005-10-30T17:04:33Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --><br />
<br />
People like to extend and hack on Armagetron Advanced. Normally they just make moviepacks, sometimes they make other things. Maybe you'd like to make something but you just don't know where to start or what to do. These pages should give you some help in that pursuit.<br />
<br />
== [[Map Making]] ==<br />
<br />
How to make maps. Also, how to make fun maps. You'll find some other resources here, such as links to all existing graphical map editors and so forth. Everything you need to know to make a killer map, that is.<br />
<br />
== [[Model Formats]] ==<br />
<br />
If you want to make a new model, you're going to need to know what formats are supported by what parts of the code and where to put them. This is part of making a moviepack, but deserves its own separate discussion.<br />
<br />
== [[Textures]] ==<br />
<br />
How do you make textures? Where do you put them? What possibilities are there that are known? You'll have to dream up new possibilities yourself.<br />
<br />
== [[Moviepacks]] ==<br />
<br />
Wrapping it all up, put your model and textures into a moviepack! Here are directions on how to do exactly that and distribute it.<br />
<br />
== [[Code hacks]] ==<br />
<br />
What code hacks are available? If you've got a compiler available and a little bit of programming abilities, there are plenty of fun things you can do to the game directly. Who knows? Do something cool and put it here and it might make it into a future version of the game.<br />
<br />
== [[Console]] ==<br />
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Using the Console. ''UB3RL33T H4X 1N51D3''<br />
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== [[CVS]] ==<br />
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Page on what CVS is, and how it works.<br />
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== [[Programming Languages]] ==<br />
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Programming languages we use and a short description on what we use them for.<br />
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{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Extending_Armagetron_Advanced&diff=2020Extending Armagetron Advanced2005-10-30T17:03:25Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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People like to extend and hack on Armagetron Advanced. Normally they just make moviepacks, sometimes they make other things. Maybe you'd like to make something but you just don't know where to start or what to do. These pages should give you some help in that pursuit.<br />
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== [[Map Making]] ==<br />
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How to make maps. Also, how to make fun maps. You'll find some other resources here, such as links to all existing graphical map editors and so forth. Everything you need to know to make a killer map, that is.<br />
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== [[Model Formats]] ==<br />
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If you want to make a new model, you're going to need to know what formats are supported by what parts of the code and where to put them. This is part of making a moviepack, but deserves its own separate discussion.<br />
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== [[Textures]] ==<br />
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How do you make textures? Where do you put them? What possibilities are there that are known? You'll have to dream up new possibilities yourself.<br />
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== [[Moviepacks]] ==<br />
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Wrapping it all up, put your model and textures into a moviepack! Here are directions on how to do exactly that and distribute it.<br />
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== [[Code hacks]] ==<br />
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What code hacks are available? If you've got a compiler available and a little bit of programming abilities, there are plenty of fun things you can do to the game directly. Who knows? Do something cool and put it here and it might make it into a future version of the game.<br />
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== [[Console]] ==<br />
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Using the Console. ''UB3RL33T H4X 1N51D3''<br />
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== [[CVS]] ==<br />
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Page on what CVS is, and how it works.<br />
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{{Sections}} <!-- Template:Sections should be at the top of each section --></div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=World_of_TNA&diff=2019World of TNA2005-10-30T17:02:34Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>A server moderated by TiTnAsS. Lucifer is running the server on his computer, but TiTnAsS has control of everything. The server is a regular shaped arena, but the spawn points have been changed around to increase the [[Roulette]] experience. It's great for [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Mazing Mazing], [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Grid_Games Tunneling], and Rouletting.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=World_of_TNA&diff=2018World of TNA2005-10-30T17:01:37Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>A server moderated by TiTnAsS. Lucifer is running the server on his computer, but TiTnAsS has control of everything. The server is a regular shaped arena, but the spawn points have been changed around to increase the [[Roulette]] experience. It's great for [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Mazing Mazing], Tunneling, and Rouletting.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=World_of_TNA&diff=2017World of TNA2005-10-30T17:00:09Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>A server moderated by TiTnAsS. Lucifer is running the server on his computer, but TiTnAsS has control of everything. The server is a regular shaped arena, but the spawn points have been changed around to increase the [[Roulette]] experience. It's great for Mazing, Tunneling, and Rouletting.</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Servers&diff=2016Servers2005-10-30T16:58:13Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>Add your server names here.<br />
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== "[[Belly of the Beast]]" ==<br />
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== "[[Labyrinth]]" ==<br />
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== "[[World of TNA]]" ==</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Server_Administration&diff=2015Talk:Server Administration2005-10-30T16:56:03Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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<div>how do you add sections to the "sections" list?<br />
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[[User:TiTnAsS|TiTnAsS]] 10:56, 30 October 2005 (CST)</div>TiTnAsShttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Server_Administration&diff=2014Server Administration2005-10-30T16:54:36Z<p>TiTnAsS: </p>
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Here you will find various guides to creating and administering game servers.<br />
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== [[Server Administration Guide]] ==<br />
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Basic guide for setting up a game server. This is your first resource when you decide to run your first Armagetron Advanced game server. It will walk you through setting up the server, making it available on the internet, basic game and physics settings, and it will set you loose. You should at least read it, even if some of the material strikes you as being particularly basic. It is intended to be used by a fairly computer-literate person who has very little or no knowledge of server operations of any sort.<br />
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== [[Advanced Server Administration Guide]] ==<br />
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So you've been running a server for awhile and now you'd like to do more with it? Maybe you've found that there are some punk-ass players out there that you really want to kick off your server? Maybe your players are asking for more, and you're saying "Hell yeah!" but you don't know what to actually do about it?<br />
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== [[Servers]] ==<br />
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This is a current list of servers, who they are run by, and a description of the servers.<br />
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== [[Console Commands]] ==<br />
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A complete list of console commands.<br />
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== Making the server run as a service in Windows NT (2000/XP) ==<br />
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TODO<br />
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== Setting up a server in Mandriva Linux ==<br />
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This guide will probably never be written because the information it contains will be obsolete when 0.2.8 is finally released. If you really want to know, ask Lucifer or Swampy, both of which run reliable and popular servers under Mandriva Linux.<br />
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