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== Rules ==<br />
<br />
All fortress players can participate in this tournament. Just post your name under the name of your country. Please write your name without clan tags.<br />
<br />
This is organized in countries, if your country isn't here, edit this page and add it. It will be nice if you respect the alphabetic order. '''The country has to exist!!!''' Maybe if the team grows a lot it can make 2 teams, like east and west, it goes 4 usa :P, plz no invented names.<br />
<br />
After all interested players register we will update this page with all the instructions of the tournament. Meanwhile here are some details:<br />
<br />
The main plan is that it will be a fortress tournament, played in play-offs mode, when teams are ready, there will be a picture showing the brackets of the road to Tron World Cup. And if it is possible we will try to respect football world cup brackets :D<br />
<br />
In case of some countries goes short, there will be a alliances, the way they will be is trying to join to another geo-near (example: spain+portugal->iberia, austria+switc->alps, nordics, ...) or just fusion with other short team (we will try to respect issues like belgium and netherland one :P).<br />
<br />
A short team will be one with less than 5 players, this will be the minimum numbers of players to play a match.<br />
*No more players allowed to register<br />
*The specified country will play with the amount of players that have registered here.<br />
*All cw in TWC-ITW server, it has good pings for both,america has 180 ping, not so bad.<br />
*Suggestions will be considered on the next TWC in 4 months->>24 november<br />
<br />
'''Further details can be found on the''' '''[http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc Official Tron World Cup Website]'''<br />
<br />
== Groups and Brackets ==<br />
&rArr; [[International_Tron_World_Cup_Groups|Groups & Brackets]]<br />
<br />
<br />
== Comments/suggestions ==<br />
I have a few suggestions to make the tourney a little fairer, 1. If one team has more players than the other team, the team with more should only use as many as the other team has.(min number 5)I thought that was standard practice, though I guess not. 2. switch between using a european and a north american server, so no one country has an unfair ping advantage. Maybe use US fortress for North america(good/fast connection), and stick with ITW server for the european server--[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]]<br />
:Thanks for the suggestions. My inclination is not to change anything now the competition has started, but certainly these things will be taken into consideration for the next world cup. Having said that, would NAFTA be happy for Vanhayes' change 1 to be implemented for the rest of this world cup on the understanding that there would '''not''' be a rematch?--[[User:Dez|Dez]] 18:11, 24 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
::Changing that player count rule, but not repeating the match that was messed up by it would strongly support the theory that the rule was pulled out of AdY-Lucifer's hat at match start for the single purpose of bashing down NAFTA. I see three acceptable ways to proceed: The best thing would be to get rid of the rule and repeat the NAFTA-Germany match, Friday would be a possible time slot. The two other possibilities would be to stick to the rule for the rest of the tournament, or to change the rule, but to remove AdY-Lucifer from the Spanish team to demonstrate the rule change isn't happening for his personal benefit (with eight players, his team would likely be put to a disadvantage by the original rule as well at some point).--[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
:::i said that nothing will be changed on this twc.rules werent changed after the first match of twc , what re u screaming about z? -- AdY-Lucifer<br />
::::Please sign your posts. -- [[User:Nemostultae|nemostultae]] 20:38, 26 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
:::::I'm not screaming, SCREAMING LOOKS LIKE THIS. And I'm refering to Dez's suggestion to indeed change the rules during this first tournament. Let me elaborate, sorry if this gets offensive, but there is no other way of explaining: The player count rule is stupid and unfair, and a blind monkey with brain damage could see it. You were asked explicitly about how different team sizes will be handled on the forum (where you're not banned, btw), but gave no answer. The rest of us only knew the rule when it was, apparently, too late to argue. Now, there are two possible explanations: 1. You're stupid and incompetent and 2. you're corrupt, using your position of power in this tournament to put unwanted teams/players at an disadvantage. Right now, "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity" applies, and explanation 1 wins. Should you however change the rule now, this would strongly suggests the decision to let Germany play with seven players was just an ad-hoc decision to kick out NAFTA, and the rule was crafted afterwards. This would give theory 2 a head. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
::::::What the hell, ady? We were told in the second match (USA vs Alliance 1) that we couldn't play with six because the teams wouldn't been even anymore. But now i see the Russia vs Spain match was played 6v1! This is really unacceptable. How can you say at one game that rule is 'play with the people that show up', then change to 'the teams have to be even' in the next game and then change back again in the third(+ignoring the rule that states a team has to have a minimum of 5 players). This only really supports Z-mans #2 theory since you were in the larger team of the third game. --[[User:Lackadaisical|Lackadaisical]]<br />
:::::::Is this true? Spain vs Russia 6 vs 1? Are there recordings or server logs that can be reviewed? --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
Ok, it is true, their page shows it. Now, the question is, why wasn't it 5 vs 1? I see and believe that Sasha apparently didn't mind playing alone. But, in the Germany vs NAFTA match, we were told we were allowed to play with 7 people because NAFTA registered with 7; we showed up with eight, IIRC. Now, Russia registered with 5, so either I'm missing something here (perhaps you played with the implicit rule that you'd attack Sasha one at a time?) or Spain was playing with one player too many, according to the rule applied at the first match. I guess I'm not the only one who'd like an explanation. From DeZ, if possible, he seems to be the sensible one. All this doesn't make sense to me, unless I adopt one of the two theories as the most likely explanation. At the very least, the statements made here by AdY were *slightly* inaccurate and incomplete. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
:The problem here is simply that the rules aren't nearly clear enough and don't cater for the circumstances we found ourselves in. On the two occasions I was in charge (USA v Alliance 1 and Spain v Russia) I took the approach that it was better to try and keep both teams happy than worry about exactly what the rules said.<br />
:In the case of USA v Alliance 1, there were 5 players in each team during the first match. However, part-way through the second match, a 6th Alliance 1 player (a1|Goodkoen) arrived. I felt it unfair that he should join the team with the match underway and allowed the USA another team member (gengis) to balance the teams. Gengis was not from the US, but had not registered to play in another World Cup team. Both teams agreed to him playing.<br />
:Following that decision, I offered Sasha the option to make up numbers in the same way, but (s)he turned this down, opting to play alone. Following the rules here would have meant defaulting Russia on the basis that they didn't have five players. Given that people had turned up wanting a match and Sasha was willing to play, I let the match go ahead. Sasha came up with some inventive and entertaining techniques to cope with the onslaught of Spanish cycles, but the inevitable happened and after two matches of this, Sasha decided that there was no point in continuing.<br />
:I understand peoples' concerns about the fairness of the competition, but please bear with us: we're new to this! We will have clearer rules set out in plenty of time for the next Tron World Cup and I hope people will give us constructive feedback on them so that any problems can be ironed out before the start of the competition. --[[User:Dez|Dez]] 17:57, 27 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
:Um fairness?? where was teh fairness in uk vs a1...or germany vs nafta?? in a way changing something to make it "fair" isn't very fair for the others who have already played...is it? --BlAzE<br />
:: Would now be a good time to mention that Legit was banned from the server when we asked him to join? I'm willing to allow for being new to running a tournament if you're willing to learn from other tournaments, and there have been 2 recent tournaments that have learned these lessons already. I'm starting to lean towards the Kill NAFTA Conspiracy theory myself, you may have been fair Dez, but it was Ady-Lucifer watching over the NAFTA/Germany match, and if you ask me, the NAFTA team played waaaay better than the Germany team, even if we lost. Ideally, you'd want the team that plays the best to be the team that wins the match, and in a point-based system you already have problems determining that. Then throwing on additional advantages to one team skewers the result even further. If they played so well as to deserve to advance, the point spread shouldn't be as close as it was. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 23:14, 27 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
:Dez: Thanks, that clears some things up. I'd still say Spain vs Russia should have been 5 vs 1, but can file that under beginner's trouble. I think nobody has any objections against the USA vs A1 match, it only serves as a contrast to the less fair matches. Your post also sheds light on the admin structure. So far, I thought you were the technical admin and Ady the political decision maker. I assume Ady was in charge of UK vs A2? Because that one seemed to be 7 vs 5, and again Legit was present and I just assume he would have played for A2 if allowed to. I'd then have a request: could you, and not Ady, manage the rest of the matches? Looks like even when UK is playing, you'd make the better decisions, and it's no problem for me to live with stupid rules if the person in charge is willing to override them. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
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Another thing, today's (29th) match has a potential collision with the Ladle tournament if it goes as long as the UK-A2 one. The Ladle is supposed to start at 9 GMT. Germany will have three players potentially leaving for the Ladle, USA will have three players NOT potentially leaving. It could help if we make it an exceptional "best of three" match. I'll also post on the Ladle page to see if the schedule can be moved backwards. I'm not blaming anyone for this collision. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
:with only four teams signed up for the ladle, we should only have to conduct the finals at 11.15pm, and semi's at 10.30pm gmt... if the team-captains organise their teams... if the players turn up... so shouldn't be a problem [[User:2020|2020]]<br />
::Great, that should suffice. I withdraw the request to make G - US a best of three match. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
I also noticed that you intend to run the World Cup sometime later in the year. So, what is the title of this World Cup? Is it the 2006 World Cup, or what? [[User:2020|2020]]<br />
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It seems as if the ITW server doesn't run for 2.8.1--[[User:AshitakA|AshitakA]]<br />
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== Teams ==<br />
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=== Alliance 1 (Austria, Canada, France and Netherlands) ===<br />
*1394-freak<br />
*JJBean<br />
*BaTTaL<br />
*Voodoo<br />
*k3nny<br />
*Lackadaisical<br />
*freako<br />
*Goodkoen<br />
<br />
=== Alliance 2 (Switzerland, Portugal, Poland, Mexico, Italy) ===<br />
*Drashia<br />
*[[User:Cusco|cusco]] (PORTUGAL - going away on the 28th for 2 weeks)<br />
*madmax<br />
*WebGamer<br />
* newbie<br />
* sebol158<br />
*the godfather (italy sicily player)<br />
*Tidus (possibly dont will be there)<br />
*~Super Daddy~<br />
<br />
=== Germany ===<br />
Link: [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/wbboard/thread.php?boardid=3&threadid=903&page=1#13 Team Germany]<br />
*Fr34k(y)<br />
*Blader<br />
*[[User:Pta|PTA]]<br />
*Z-Man<br />
*~*Mephisto*~<br />
*$ubzero<br />
*Slayer<br />
*H.A.K.<br />
*Sefgu<br />
*Tronfreak<br />
*Alien<br />
*Narrow<br />
*dyyXy!!<br />
*AshitakA<br />
<br />
=== North American Free Tron Alliance (NAFTA) ===<br />
* Lucifer<br />
* BlAzE<br />
* anjori<br />
* BaTTaL<br />
* knojf<br />
* Vanhayes <br />
* [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
''See [[Talk:International Tron World Cup]] for discussion''<br />
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[[Image:Russ.jpg|left]]<br />
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=== Russia ===<br />
*Ossi<br />
*Sasha<br />
*badzilla<br />
*doc<br />
*man2d<br />
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[[Image:Spain.jpg|left|30px]]<br />
=== Spain ===<br />
*Ady-Lucifer (From Cantabria, aka Hell)<br />
*ORiON(From Seville, Andalucía)<br />
*[[User:ChiCho|ChiCho]] (From Motril, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:Xevic|Xevi]] (From Barcelona, Catalunya [[Image:CAT.gif]])<br />
*AuRoN (From Jerez, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:ArcBeetle|ArcBeetle]] (From Cordoba, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:kakashi|Kakashi]] ( From Jerez, Andalucia )<br />
*Alf (From Jaén, Andalucía)<br />
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http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4264/ukflag01rp6.jpg<br />
=== United Kingdom === <br />
*ed (From Wales)<br />
*[[User:X3r|X3R]] (be AFRAID!)<br />
*)(Alex)(<br />
*Infamous<br />
*[[User:Syllabear|Syllabear]] (From N.Ireland)<br />
*[[User:Dez|Dez]] (From England)<br />
*Sleepy<br />
*'''Pyroto'''<br />
*2020 (currently in scotland)<br />
*Pez<br />
*Harlequin<br />
*[[User:Xell|Xell]]<br />
*'''Sp33D''' ''hould be ableto play every match go UK!''<br />
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@ Alex and Infamous, show some dignity. Temp ban of 1 day... would have been a week except for the fact you might need to post something to support your team --[[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 18:19, 27 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
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=== United States of America ===<br />
*gArIsImO<br />
*Wildcat(Probably cant make it because of work.)<br />
*Goodygumdrops<br />
*Chuck (I'll probably make it, since I have no life and stay at home all day :(, What time EST?)<br />
*[[User:Durka|Dµrkå]] (99.99999999% chance I won't make it)<br />
*Manta (This is 1PM in the afternoon! doesn't anyone work?)<br />
*PsYkO WEWT<br />
*Pandemonium<br />
*Legit<br />
*eclipse <br />
*Stewie! (most likely will not make a very high percentage of not making it.)<br />
*Kyle (may not make it)<br />
*[[Oblivion Muahahaha!]]<br />
* Tits<br />
*Skip<br />
*Play</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=International_Tron_World_Cup&diff=14303International Tron World Cup2006-07-29T16:59:11Z<p>Oblivion: /* United States of America */</p>
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<div><!-- Please do not add anymore font tags or colors of any kind to this page, I'll remove them. [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 19:14, 8 July 2006 (CEST) --><br />
== Rules ==<br />
<br />
All fortress players can participate in this tournament. Just post your name under the name of your country. Please write your name without clan tags.<br />
<br />
This is organized in countries, if your country isn't here, edit this page and add it. It will be nice if you respect the alphabetic order. '''The country has to exist!!!''' Maybe if the team grows a lot it can make 2 teams, like east and west, it goes 4 usa :P, plz no invented names.<br />
<br />
After all interested players register we will update this page with all the instructions of the tournament. Meanwhile here are some details:<br />
<br />
The main plan is that it will be a fortress tournament, played in play-offs mode, when teams are ready, there will be a picture showing the brackets of the road to Tron World Cup. And if it is possible we will try to respect football world cup brackets :D<br />
<br />
In case of some countries goes short, there will be a alliances, the way they will be is trying to join to another geo-near (example: spain+portugal->iberia, austria+switc->alps, nordics, ...) or just fusion with other short team (we will try to respect issues like belgium and netherland one :P).<br />
<br />
A short team will be one with less than 5 players, this will be the minimum numbers of players to play a match.<br />
*No more players allowed to register<br />
*The specified country will play with the amount of players that have registered here.<br />
*All cw in TWC-ITW server, it has good pings for both,america has 180 ping, not so bad.<br />
*Suggestions will be considered on the next TWC in 4 months->>24 november<br />
<br />
'''Further details can be found on the''' '''[http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc Official Tron World Cup Website]'''<br />
<br />
== Groups and Brackets ==<br />
&rArr; [[International_Tron_World_Cup_Groups|Groups & Brackets]]<br />
<br />
<br />
== Comments/suggestions ==<br />
I have a few suggestions to make the tourney a little fairer, 1. If one team has more players than the other team, the team with more should only use as many as the other team has.(min number 5)I thought that was standard practice, though I guess not. 2. switch between using a european and a north american server, so no one country has an unfair ping advantage. Maybe use US fortress for North america(good/fast connection), and stick with ITW server for the european server--[[User:Vanhayes|Vanhayes]]<br />
:Thanks for the suggestions. My inclination is not to change anything now the competition has started, but certainly these things will be taken into consideration for the next world cup. Having said that, would NAFTA be happy for Vanhayes' change 1 to be implemented for the rest of this world cup on the understanding that there would '''not''' be a rematch?--[[User:Dez|Dez]] 18:11, 24 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
::Changing that player count rule, but not repeating the match that was messed up by it would strongly support the theory that the rule was pulled out of AdY-Lucifer's hat at match start for the single purpose of bashing down NAFTA. I see three acceptable ways to proceed: The best thing would be to get rid of the rule and repeat the NAFTA-Germany match, Friday would be a possible time slot. The two other possibilities would be to stick to the rule for the rest of the tournament, or to change the rule, but to remove AdY-Lucifer from the Spanish team to demonstrate the rule change isn't happening for his personal benefit (with eight players, his team would likely be put to a disadvantage by the original rule as well at some point).--[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
:::i said that nothing will be changed on this twc.rules werent changed after the first match of twc , what re u screaming about z? -- AdY-Lucifer<br />
::::Please sign your posts. -- [[User:Nemostultae|nemostultae]] 20:38, 26 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
:::::I'm not screaming, SCREAMING LOOKS LIKE THIS. And I'm refering to Dez's suggestion to indeed change the rules during this first tournament. Let me elaborate, sorry if this gets offensive, but there is no other way of explaining: The player count rule is stupid and unfair, and a blind monkey with brain damage could see it. You were asked explicitly about how different team sizes will be handled on the forum (where you're not banned, btw), but gave no answer. The rest of us only knew the rule when it was, apparently, too late to argue. Now, there are two possible explanations: 1. You're stupid and incompetent and 2. you're corrupt, using your position of power in this tournament to put unwanted teams/players at an disadvantage. Right now, "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity" applies, and explanation 1 wins. Should you however change the rule now, this would strongly suggests the decision to let Germany play with seven players was just an ad-hoc decision to kick out NAFTA, and the rule was crafted afterwards. This would give theory 2 a head. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
::::::What the hell, ady? We were told in the second match (USA vs Alliance 1) that we couldn't play with six because the teams wouldn't been even anymore. But now i see the Russia vs Spain match was played 6v1! This is really unacceptable. How can you say at one game that rule is 'play with the people that show up', then change to 'the teams have to be even' in the next game and then change back again in the third(+ignoring the rule that states a team has to have a minimum of 5 players). This only really supports Z-mans #2 theory since you were in the larger team of the third game. --[[User:Lackadaisical|Lackadaisical]]<br />
:::::::Is this true? Spain vs Russia 6 vs 1? Are there recordings or server logs that can be reviewed? --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
Ok, it is true, their page shows it. Now, the question is, why wasn't it 5 vs 1? I see and believe that Sasha apparently didn't mind playing alone. But, in the Germany vs NAFTA match, we were told we were allowed to play with 7 people because NAFTA registered with 7; we showed up with eight, IIRC. Now, Russia registered with 5, so either I'm missing something here (perhaps you played with the implicit rule that you'd attack Sasha one at a time?) or Spain was playing with one player too many, according to the rule applied at the first match. I guess I'm not the only one who'd like an explanation. From DeZ, if possible, he seems to be the sensible one. All this doesn't make sense to me, unless I adopt one of the two theories as the most likely explanation. At the very least, the statements made here by AdY were *slightly* inaccurate and incomplete. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
:The problem here is simply that the rules aren't nearly clear enough and don't cater for the circumstances we found ourselves in. On the two occasions I was in charge (USA v Alliance 1 and Spain v Russia) I took the approach that it was better to try and keep both teams happy than worry about exactly what the rules said.<br />
:In the case of USA v Alliance 1, there were 5 players in each team during the first match. However, part-way through the second match, a 6th Alliance 1 player (a1|Goodkoen) arrived. I felt it unfair that he should join the team with the match underway and allowed the USA another team member (gengis) to balance the teams. Gengis was not from the US, but had not registered to play in another World Cup team. Both teams agreed to him playing.<br />
:Following that decision, I offered Sasha the option to make up numbers in the same way, but (s)he turned this down, opting to play alone. Following the rules here would have meant defaulting Russia on the basis that they didn't have five players. Given that people had turned up wanting a match and Sasha was willing to play, I let the match go ahead. Sasha came up with some inventive and entertaining techniques to cope with the onslaught of Spanish cycles, but the inevitable happened and after two matches of this, Sasha decided that there was no point in continuing.<br />
:I understand peoples' concerns about the fairness of the competition, but please bear with us: we're new to this! We will have clearer rules set out in plenty of time for the next Tron World Cup and I hope people will give us constructive feedback on them so that any problems can be ironed out before the start of the competition. --[[User:Dez|Dez]] 17:57, 27 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
:Um fairness?? where was teh fairness in uk vs a1...or germany vs nafta?? in a way changing something to make it "fair" isn't very fair for the others who have already played...is it? --BlAzE<br />
:: Would now be a good time to mention that Legit was banned from the server when we asked him to join? I'm willing to allow for being new to running a tournament if you're willing to learn from other tournaments, and there have been 2 recent tournaments that have learned these lessons already. I'm starting to lean towards the Kill NAFTA Conspiracy theory myself, you may have been fair Dez, but it was Ady-Lucifer watching over the NAFTA/Germany match, and if you ask me, the NAFTA team played waaaay better than the Germany team, even if we lost. Ideally, you'd want the team that plays the best to be the team that wins the match, and in a point-based system you already have problems determining that. Then throwing on additional advantages to one team skewers the result even further. If they played so well as to deserve to advance, the point spread shouldn't be as close as it was. --[[User:Lucifer|Lucifer]] 23:14, 27 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
:Dez: Thanks, that clears some things up. I'd still say Spain vs Russia should have been 5 vs 1, but can file that under beginner's trouble. I think nobody has any objections against the USA vs A1 match, it only serves as a contrast to the less fair matches. Your post also sheds light on the admin structure. So far, I thought you were the technical admin and Ady the political decision maker. I assume Ady was in charge of UK vs A2? Because that one seemed to be 7 vs 5, and again Legit was present and I just assume he would have played for A2 if allowed to. I'd then have a request: could you, and not Ady, manage the rest of the matches? Looks like even when UK is playing, you'd make the better decisions, and it's no problem for me to live with stupid rules if the person in charge is willing to override them. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
<br />
Another thing, today's (29th) match has a potential collision with the Ladle tournament if it goes as long as the UK-A2 one. The Ladle is supposed to start at 9 GMT. Germany will have three players potentially leaving for the Ladle, USA will have three players NOT potentially leaving. It could help if we make it an exceptional "best of three" match. I'll also post on the Ladle page to see if the schedule can be moved backwards. I'm not blaming anyone for this collision. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
:with only four teams signed up for the ladle, we should only have to conduct the finals at 11.15pm, and semi's at 10.30pm gmt... if the team-captains organise their teams... if the players turn up... so shouldn't be a problem [[User:2020|2020]]<br />
::Great, that should suffice. I withdraw the request to make G - US a best of three match. --[[User:Z-Man|Z-Man]]<br />
I also noticed that you intend to run the World Cup sometime later in the year. So, what is the title of this World Cup? Is it the 2006 World Cup, or what? [[User:2020|2020]]<br />
<br />
It seems as if the ITW server doesn't run for 2.8.1--[[User:AshitakA|AshitakA]]<br />
<br />
== Teams ==<br />
<br />
=== Alliance 1 (Austria, Canada, France and Netherlands) ===<br />
*1394-freak<br />
*JJBean<br />
*BaTTaL<br />
*Voodoo<br />
*k3nny<br />
*Lackadaisical<br />
*freako<br />
*Goodkoen<br />
<br />
=== Alliance 2 (Switzerland, Portugal, Poland, Mexico, Italy) ===<br />
*Drashia<br />
*[[User:Cusco|cusco]] (PORTUGAL - going away on the 28th for 2 weeks)<br />
*madmax<br />
*WebGamer<br />
* newbie<br />
* sebol158<br />
*the godfather (italy sicily player)<br />
*Tidus (possibly dont will be there)<br />
*~Super Daddy~<br />
<br />
=== Germany ===<br />
Link: [http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/wbboard/thread.php?boardid=3&threadid=903&page=1#13 Team Germany]<br />
*Fr34k(y)<br />
*Blader<br />
*[[User:Pta|PTA]]<br />
*Z-Man<br />
*~*Mephisto*~<br />
*$ubzero<br />
*Slayer<br />
*H.A.K.<br />
*Sefgu<br />
*Tronfreak<br />
*Alien<br />
*Narrow<br />
*dyyXy!!<br />
*AshitakA<br />
<br />
=== North American Free Tron Alliance (NAFTA) ===<br />
* Lucifer<br />
* BlAzE<br />
* anjori<br />
* BaTTaL<br />
* knojf<br />
* Vanhayes <br />
* [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
''See [[Talk:International Tron World Cup]] for discussion''<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Image:Russ.jpg|left]]<br />
<br />
=== Russia ===<br />
*Ossi<br />
*Sasha<br />
*badzilla<br />
*doc<br />
*man2d<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Image:Spain.jpg|left|30px]]<br />
=== Spain ===<br />
*Ady-Lucifer (From Cantabria, aka Hell)<br />
*ORiON(From Seville, Andalucía)<br />
*[[User:ChiCho|ChiCho]] (From Motril, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:Xevic|Xevi]] (From Barcelona, Catalunya [[Image:CAT.gif]])<br />
*AuRoN (From Jerez, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:ArcBeetle|ArcBeetle]] (From Cordoba, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:kakashi|Kakashi]] ( From Jerez, Andalucia )<br />
*Alf (From Jaén, Andalucía)<br />
<br />
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4264/ukflag01rp6.jpg<br />
=== United Kingdom === <br />
*ed (From Wales)<br />
*[[User:X3r|X3R]] (be AFRAID!)<br />
*)(Alex)(<br />
*Infamous<br />
*[[User:Syllabear|Syllabear]] (From N.Ireland)<br />
*[[User:Dez|Dez]] (From England)<br />
*Sleepy<br />
*'''Pyroto'''<br />
*2020 (currently in scotland)<br />
*Pez<br />
*Harlequin<br />
*[[User:Xell|Xell]]<br />
*'''Sp33D''' ''hould be ableto play every match go UK!''<br />
<br />
@ Alex and Infamous, show some dignity. Temp ban of 1 day... would have been a week except for the fact you might need to post something to support your team --[[User:Your mom|Your mom]] 18:19, 27 July 2006 (CDT)<br />
<br />
=== United States of America ===<br />
*gArIsImO<br />
*Wildcat(Probably cant make it because of work.)<br />
*Goodygumdrops<br />
*Chuck (I'll probably make it, since I have no life and stay at home all day :(, What time EST?)<br />
*[[User:Durka|Dµrkå]] (99.99999999% chance I won't make it)<br />
*Manta (This is 1PM in the afternoon! doesn't anyone work?)<br />
*PsYkO WEWT<br />
*Pandemonium<br />
*Legit<br />
*eclipse <br />
*Stewie! (most likely will not make a very high percentage of not making it.)<br />
*Kyle (may not make it)<br />
*[[Oblivion Muahahaha!]]<br />
* Tits<br />
*Skip<br />
*CT|Play</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=International_Tron_World_Cup&diff=14016International Tron World Cup2006-07-15T22:45:37Z<p>Oblivion: /* United States of America */</p>
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== Rules ==<br />
<br />
All fortress players can participate in this tournament. Just post your name under the name of your country. Please write your name without clan tags.<br />
<br />
This is organized in countries, if your country isn't here, edit this page and add it. It will be nice if you respect the alphabetic order. '''The country has to exist!!!''' Maybe if the team grows a lot it can make 2 teams, like east and west, it goes 4 usa :P, plz no invented names.<br />
<br />
After all interested players register we will update this page with all the instructions of the tournament. Meanwhile here are some details:<br />
<br />
The main plan is that it will be a fortress tournament, played in play-offs mode, when teams are ready, there will be a picture showing the brackets of the road to Tron World Cup. And if it is possible we will try to respect football world cup brackets :D<br />
<br />
In case of some countries goes short, there will be a alliances, the way they will be is trying to join to another geo-near (example: spain+portugal->iberia, austria+switc->alps, nordics, ...) or just fusion with other short team (we will try to respect issues like belgium and netherland one :P).<br />
<br />
A short team will be one with less than 5 players, this will be the minimum numbers of players to play a match.<br />
<br />
'''Start date is 24 July 2006'''<br />
<br />
== Teams ==<br />
=== Austria ===<br />
*1394-freak<br />
<br />
[[Image:Canada.jpg|left]]<br />
=== [[Canada]] ===<br />
*Vanhayes<br />
*wrtlprnft<br />
*JJBean<br />
*anjori<br />
<br />
=== France ===<br />
*Voodoo<br />
<br />
=== Germany ===<br />
*Blader<br />
*joda.bot<br />
*[[User:Pta|PTA]]<br />
*Z-Man<br />
*~*Mephisto*~<br />
*$ubzero<br />
*Luzifer (LukeSky)<br />
<br />
*Slayer<br />
*H.A.K.<br />
<br />
=== Italy ===<br />
*the godfather (italy sicily player)<br />
<br />
=== Mexico ===<br />
*Tidus<br />
<br />
=== Netherlands ===<br />
*k3nny<br />
*Lackadaisical<br />
<br />
=== Poland ===<br />
* newbie<br />
* sebol158<br />
<br />
=== Portugal ===<br />
*[[User:Cusco|cusco]] (might not be present... don't know yet)<br />
*madmax<br />
*(Cho)<br />
*WebGamer<br />
<br />
=== Rebellious States of the World ===<br />
<br />
'''Before you remove this section, consider the states in the world that have no recognized government against whom you are discriminating, such as Palestine and Taiwan. What country would you have people that live in those areas join? Their mortal enemy?'''<br />
<br />
* Lucifer<br />
* BlAzE<br />
* anjori<br />
<br />
''See [[Talk:International Tron World Cup]] for discussion''<br />
<br />
[[Image:Russ.jpg|left]]<br />
<br />
=== Russia ===<br />
*Ossi<br />
*Sasha<br />
*badzilla<br />
*doc<br />
*man2d<br />
<br />
[[Image:Spain.jpg|left|30px]]<br />
=== Spain ===<br />
*Ady-Lucifer (From Cantabria, aka Hell)<br />
*ORiON(From Seville, Andalucía)<br />
*[[User:ChiCho|ChiCho]] (From Motril, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:Xevic|Xevi]] (From Barcelona, Catalunya [[Image:CAT.gif]])<br />
*AuRoN<br />
*[[User:ArcBeetle|ArcBeetle]] (From Cordoba, Andalucia)<br />
*4400<br />
<br />
=== Switzerland ===<br />
*Drashia<br />
<br />
=== United Kingdom === <br />
*ed (From Wales)<br />
*[[User:X3r|X3R]] (be AFRAID!)<br />
*)(Alex)( (from my house :D [yorkshire])<br />
*Infamous<br />
*[[User:Syllabear|Syllabear]] (From N.Ireland)<br />
*[[User:Dez|Dez]] (From England)<br />
*Sp33D<br />
*Sleepy<br />
*'''Pyroto'''<br />
*HoAX<br />
*2020 (currently in scotland)<br />
*Pez<br />
<br />
[[Image:usflag01.gif|left]]<br />
=== United States of America ===<br />
*gArIsImO<br />
*Wildcat<br />
*Goodygumdrops<br />
*Chuck<br />
*[[User:Durka|Dµrkå]] (might not make it)<br />
*Manta<br />
*PsYkO WEWT<br />
*Pandemonium<br />
*Legit<br />
*eclipse <br />
*Stewie!<br />
*Kyle (may not make it)<br />
*[[Oblivion Muahahaha!]]</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=International_Tron_World_Cup&diff=14015International Tron World Cup2006-07-15T22:45:15Z<p>Oblivion: /* United States of America */</p>
<hr />
<div><!-- Please do not add anymore font tags or colors of any kind to this page, I'll remove them. [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 19:14, 8 July 2006 (CEST) --><br />
== Rules ==<br />
<br />
All fortress players can participate in this tournament. Just post your name under the name of your country. Please write your name without clan tags.<br />
<br />
This is organized in countries, if your country isn't here, edit this page and add it. It will be nice if you respect the alphabetic order. '''The country has to exist!!!''' Maybe if the team grows a lot it can make 2 teams, like east and west, it goes 4 usa :P, plz no invented names.<br />
<br />
After all interested players register we will update this page with all the instructions of the tournament. Meanwhile here are some details:<br />
<br />
The main plan is that it will be a fortress tournament, played in play-offs mode, when teams are ready, there will be a picture showing the brackets of the road to Tron World Cup. And if it is possible we will try to respect football world cup brackets :D<br />
<br />
In case of some countries goes short, there will be a alliances, the way they will be is trying to join to another geo-near (example: spain+portugal->iberia, austria+switc->alps, nordics, ...) or just fusion with other short team (we will try to respect issues like belgium and netherland one :P).<br />
<br />
A short team will be one with less than 5 players, this will be the minimum numbers of players to play a match.<br />
<br />
'''Start date is 24 July 2006'''<br />
<br />
== Teams ==<br />
=== Austria ===<br />
*1394-freak<br />
<br />
[[Image:Canada.jpg|left]]<br />
=== [[Canada]] ===<br />
*Vanhayes<br />
*wrtlprnft<br />
*JJBean<br />
*anjori<br />
<br />
=== France ===<br />
*Voodoo<br />
<br />
=== Germany ===<br />
*Blader<br />
*joda.bot<br />
*[[User:Pta|PTA]]<br />
*Z-Man<br />
*~*Mephisto*~<br />
*$ubzero<br />
*Luzifer (LukeSky)<br />
<br />
*Slayer<br />
*H.A.K.<br />
<br />
=== Italy ===<br />
*the godfather (italy sicily player)<br />
<br />
=== Mexico ===<br />
*Tidus<br />
<br />
=== Netherlands ===<br />
*k3nny<br />
*Lackadaisical<br />
<br />
=== Poland ===<br />
* newbie<br />
* sebol158<br />
<br />
=== Portugal ===<br />
*[[User:Cusco|cusco]] (might not be present... don't know yet)<br />
*madmax<br />
*(Cho)<br />
*WebGamer<br />
<br />
=== Rebellious States of the World ===<br />
<br />
'''Before you remove this section, consider the states in the world that have no recognized government against whom you are discriminating, such as Palestine and Taiwan. What country would you have people that live in those areas join? Their mortal enemy?'''<br />
<br />
* Lucifer<br />
* BlAzE<br />
* anjori<br />
<br />
''See [[Talk:International Tron World Cup]] for discussion''<br />
<br />
[[Image:Russ.jpg|left]]<br />
<br />
=== Russia ===<br />
*Ossi<br />
*Sasha<br />
*badzilla<br />
*doc<br />
*man2d<br />
<br />
[[Image:Spain.jpg|left|30px]]<br />
=== Spain ===<br />
*Ady-Lucifer (From Cantabria, aka Hell)<br />
*ORiON(From Seville, Andalucía)<br />
*[[User:ChiCho|ChiCho]] (From Motril, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:Xevic|Xevi]] (From Barcelona, Catalunya [[Image:CAT.gif]])<br />
*AuRoN<br />
*[[User:ArcBeetle|ArcBeetle]] (From Cordoba, Andalucia)<br />
*4400<br />
<br />
=== Switzerland ===<br />
*Drashia<br />
<br />
=== United Kingdom === <br />
*ed (From Wales)<br />
*[[User:X3r|X3R]] (be AFRAID!)<br />
*)(Alex)( (from my house :D [yorkshire])<br />
*Infamous<br />
*[[User:Syllabear|Syllabear]] (From N.Ireland)<br />
*[[User:Dez|Dez]] (From England)<br />
*Sp33D<br />
*Sleepy<br />
*'''Pyroto'''<br />
*HoAX<br />
*2020 (currently in scotland)<br />
*Pez<br />
<br />
[[Image:usflag01.gif|left]]<br />
=== United States of America ===<br />
*gArIsImO<br />
*Wildcat<br />
*Goodygumdrops<br />
*Chuck<br />
*[[User:Durka|Dµrkå]] (might not make it)<br />
*Manta<br />
*PsYkO WEWT<br />
*Pandemonium<br />
*Legit<br />
*eclipse <br />
*Stewie!<br />
*Kyle (may not make it)<br />
*[[user:Oblivion]] Muahahaha!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=International_Tron_World_Cup&diff=14014International Tron World Cup2006-07-15T22:44:43Z<p>Oblivion: /* United States of America */</p>
<hr />
<div><!-- Please do not add anymore font tags or colors of any kind to this page, I'll remove them. [[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]] 19:14, 8 July 2006 (CEST) --><br />
== Rules ==<br />
<br />
All fortress players can participate in this tournament. Just post your name under the name of your country. Please write your name without clan tags.<br />
<br />
This is organized in countries, if your country isn't here, edit this page and add it. It will be nice if you respect the alphabetic order. '''The country has to exist!!!''' Maybe if the team grows a lot it can make 2 teams, like east and west, it goes 4 usa :P, plz no invented names.<br />
<br />
After all interested players register we will update this page with all the instructions of the tournament. Meanwhile here are some details:<br />
<br />
The main plan is that it will be a fortress tournament, played in play-offs mode, when teams are ready, there will be a picture showing the brackets of the road to Tron World Cup. And if it is possible we will try to respect football world cup brackets :D<br />
<br />
In case of some countries goes short, there will be a alliances, the way they will be is trying to join to another geo-near (example: spain+portugal->iberia, austria+switc->alps, nordics, ...) or just fusion with other short team (we will try to respect issues like belgium and netherland one :P).<br />
<br />
A short team will be one with less than 5 players, this will be the minimum numbers of players to play a match.<br />
<br />
'''Start date is 24 July 2006'''<br />
<br />
== Teams ==<br />
=== Austria ===<br />
*1394-freak<br />
<br />
[[Image:Canada.jpg|left]]<br />
=== [[Canada]] ===<br />
*Vanhayes<br />
*wrtlprnft<br />
*JJBean<br />
*anjori<br />
<br />
=== France ===<br />
*Voodoo<br />
<br />
=== Germany ===<br />
*Blader<br />
*joda.bot<br />
*[[User:Pta|PTA]]<br />
*Z-Man<br />
*~*Mephisto*~<br />
*$ubzero<br />
*Luzifer (LukeSky)<br />
<br />
*Slayer<br />
*H.A.K.<br />
<br />
=== Italy ===<br />
*the godfather (italy sicily player)<br />
<br />
=== Mexico ===<br />
*Tidus<br />
<br />
=== Netherlands ===<br />
*k3nny<br />
*Lackadaisical<br />
<br />
=== Poland ===<br />
* newbie<br />
* sebol158<br />
<br />
=== Portugal ===<br />
*[[User:Cusco|cusco]] (might not be present... don't know yet)<br />
*madmax<br />
*(Cho)<br />
*WebGamer<br />
<br />
=== Rebellious States of the World ===<br />
<br />
'''Before you remove this section, consider the states in the world that have no recognized government against whom you are discriminating, such as Palestine and Taiwan. What country would you have people that live in those areas join? Their mortal enemy?'''<br />
<br />
* Lucifer<br />
* BlAzE<br />
* anjori<br />
<br />
''See [[Talk:International Tron World Cup]] for discussion''<br />
<br />
[[Image:Russ.jpg|left]]<br />
<br />
=== Russia ===<br />
*Ossi<br />
*Sasha<br />
*badzilla<br />
*doc<br />
*man2d<br />
<br />
[[Image:Spain.jpg|left|30px]]<br />
=== Spain ===<br />
*Ady-Lucifer (From Cantabria, aka Hell)<br />
*ORiON(From Seville, Andalucía)<br />
*[[User:ChiCho|ChiCho]] (From Motril, Andalucia)<br />
*[[User:Xevic|Xevi]] (From Barcelona, Catalunya [[Image:CAT.gif]])<br />
*AuRoN<br />
*[[User:ArcBeetle|ArcBeetle]] (From Cordoba, Andalucia)<br />
*4400<br />
<br />
=== Switzerland ===<br />
*Drashia<br />
<br />
=== United Kingdom === <br />
*ed (From Wales)<br />
*[[User:X3r|X3R]] (be AFRAID!)<br />
*)(Alex)( (from my house :D [yorkshire])<br />
*Infamous<br />
*[[User:Syllabear|Syllabear]] (From N.Ireland)<br />
*[[User:Dez|Dez]] (From England)<br />
*Sp33D<br />
*Sleepy<br />
*'''Pyroto'''<br />
*HoAX<br />
*2020 (currently in scotland)<br />
*Pez<br />
<br />
[[Image:usflag01.gif|left]]<br />
=== United States of America ===<br />
*gArIsImO<br />
*Wildcat<br />
*Goodygumdrops<br />
*Chuck<br />
*[[User:Durka|Dµrkå]] (might not make it)<br />
*Manta<br />
*PsYkO WEWT<br />
*Pandemonium<br />
*Legit<br />
*eclipse <br />
*Stewie!<br />
*Kyle (may not make it)<br />
*Oblivion Muahahaha!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3791Anarchic wanderers2006-04-13T01:03:15Z<p>Oblivion: /* team positions */</p>
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<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==team positions==<br />
Although we may not know who will turn up, and how many opponents turn up, I think it may be a good idea to suggest what our prefered starting positions are. We need names for the different positions (point, wing, back, centre, that kind of thing), but we also should be familiar with the number of each position. Centre position is 1, first left is 2, first right is 3, and so on... so odd numbers are on the right; from left to right: 8 6 4 2 1(centre) 3 5 7. And remember, the reason why you may not end up in the position you wish for is because someone else has just moved altering the positions again....<br />
; 8 back<br />
:Probably for the goalie position...<br />
; 6 outside wing left<br />
:Probably for sweep left position...<br />
:2020 likes this position...<br />
:ghableska prefers this position<br />
; 4 centre wing left<br />
:Useful to grind the inside wingman who might be doubling back (supergrinding)... Probably midfield position... Probably defencive...<br />
; 2 inside wing left<br />
:Prime position for doubling-back... usually first player to meet the attacking force...<br />
:2020 likes this position too...<br />
:ghableska likes this position<br />
:Oblivion LOVES this position and owns on it!<br />
; 1 centre point<br />
:If inside wings do normal grind, then centre will be the fastest player hitting the opponents... Otherwise, with double-grinding to either side, it can get scary... Some players like to try to go down the centre of the opponents grind... takes timing and skill...<br />
:2020 sometimes likes this...<br />
; 3 inside wing right<br />
:Doubling back is an option, and some players manage to get fantastic speeds and can outflank opponents quickly...<br />
:2020 sometimes likes this position.... This left side is more offensive potentially. If the inside wing on the right takes the flank, there are two players behind who should probably follow through...<br />
:Oblivion LOVES this position and owns on it too!<br />
; 5 centre wing right<br />
:Grinding maybe 3 or 3.5 enables a good super-grind for inside wing... Generally a midfield play, though be prepared to follow the inside wingman if outflanking opponents quickly.<br />
; 7 outside wing right<br />
:Usually defensive, but has the option of following the entire wing if there is a fast break against opponents. Sweep position left.<br />
:2020's prefered position.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
:'''TO GET ON SPOON SERVER YOU MUST USE THESE TAGS THIS WILL WORK [TSS]INSERT_NAME_HERE-AW THIS WILL WORK TO GET ON SERVER AND WILL WORK TO RECOGNIZE TEAM!'''<br />
<br />
== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
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||'''FE''':UNKNOWN IF THEY ARE IN SPOON.<br />
<br />
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<br />
<br />
|'''Lobster Mafia''':UNKNOWN TIMES<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
:Crazy Tronners(CT):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
|}<br />
[[THE_SPOON_SEED_RESULTS|Seed Results]]<br />
<br />
comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
<br />
*** I'm having some trouble uploading the pictures, there's always a syntax error or something. ***<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
===6.4.12.20.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:The game went well from my point of view, at the back. We won the first game relatively easily, though Crazy Tronners put up a good fight in the second and nearly snatched it away from us: winner of the last game would win the match. It took ages to get down to playing though, with team-tags and all that gas... with players popping in and out - I think Garisimo's baby nearly choked to death so he had to leave at the beginning of the second match. And there was a lot of uncertainty as to whether we were playing a time-out match or not... Once ghab came, we had a full team, and luckily someone on the opponents team also appeared so we had a 8v8 game --- the only real way to play.<br />
:I think z-man has been experimenting with tags, and numbers of players, with perhaps one player as substitute. I think it may be useful in the future, if z-man gave temporary admin status to team-captains for example, to determine the number of players each team has etc. Either that, or we as players just make damned sure we have 8 players in our teams, and we arrive on time... Which is what happens in the real world most of the time...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
<br />
I agree with 2020...good game, quite easy. I don't know what happened during the second match. We won...<br />
Nothing more to say../<br />
<br />
;from Oblivion<br />
<br />
It was fun we owned the first match, and the second one we had a bit of trouble. I look forward to practicing the fork tommorow, if we get that move down we might be able to take on ?? and maybe even put up a good fight if not win! This was a very easy tourney, I think people could grind a bit heavier though.<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
;From PsYko<br />
:z-man should give temporary boot privelages to team admins..<br />
<br />
;From featherfcuk<br />
:Not to Vanhayes though... Canadians are always powerfreaks, he's deemed to abuse that priviledge!<br />
<br />
;Van<br />
:no, no its pronounced CANADIAN not AMERICAN, u know canada the peacekeepers of the world?. And Use discussioin page u noobs.<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3782Anarchic wanderers2006-04-12T22:26:49Z<p>Oblivion: /* 6.4.12.20.0 */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==team positions==<br />
Although we may not know who will turn up, and how many opponents turn up, I think it may be a good idea to suggest what our prefered starting positions are. We need names for the different positions (point, wing, back, centre, that kind of thing), but we also should be familiar with the number of each position. Centre position is 1, first left is 2, first right is 3, and so on... so odd numbers are on the right; from left to right: 8 6 4 2 1(centre) 3 5 7. And remember, the reason why you may not end up in the position you wish for is because someone else has just moved altering the positions again....<br />
; 8 back<br />
:Probably for the goalie position...<br />
; 6 outside wing left<br />
:Probably for sweep left position...<br />
:2020 likes this position...<br />
; 4 centre wing left<br />
:Useful to grind the inside wingman who might be doubling back (supergrinding)... Probably midfield position... Probably defencive...<br />
; 2 inside wing left<br />
:Prime position for doubling-back... usually first player to meet the attacking force...<br />
:2020 likes this position too...<br />
; 1 centre point<br />
:If inside wings do normal grind, then centre will be the fastest player hitting the opponents... Otherwise, with double-grinding to either side, it can get scary... Some players like to try to go down the centre of the opponents grind... takes timing and skill...<br />
:2020 sometimes likes this...<br />
; 3 inside wing right<br />
:Doubling back is an option, and some players manage to get fantastic speeds and can outflank opponents quickly...<br />
:2020 sometimes likes this position.... This left side is more offensive potentially. If the inside wing on the right takes the flank, there are two players behind who should probably follow through...<br />
; 5 centre wing right<br />
:Grinding maybe 3 or 3.5 enables a good super-grind for inside wing... Generally a midfield play, though be prepared to follow the inside wingman if outflanking opponents quickly.<br />
; 7 outside wing right<br />
:Usually defensive, but has the option of following the entire wing if there is a fast break against opponents. Sweep position left.<br />
:2020's prefered position.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
:'''TO GET ON SPOON SERVER YOU MUST USE THESE TAGS THIS WILL WORK [TSS]INSERT_NAME_HERE-AW THIS WILL WORK TO GET ON SERVER AND WILL WORK TO RECOGNIZE TEAM!'''<br />
<br />
== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
<br />
||'''FE''':UNKNOWN IF THEY ARE IN SPOON.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|'''Lobster Mafia''':UNKNOWN TIMES<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
:Crazy Tronners(CT):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
|}<br />
[[THE_SPOON_SEED_RESULTS|Seed Results]]<br />
<br />
comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
<br />
*** I'm having some trouble uploading the pictures, there's always a syntax error or something. ***<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
===6.4.12.20.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:The game went well from my point of view, at the back. We won the first game relatively easily, though Crazy Tronners put up a good fight in the second and nearly snatched it away from us: winner of the last game would win the match. It took ages to get down to playing though, with team-tags and all that gas... with players popping in and out - I think Garisimo's baby nearly choked to death so he had to leave at the beginning of the second match. And there was a lot of uncertainty as to whether we were playing a time-out match or not... Once ghab came, we had a full team, and luckily someone on the opponents team also appeared so we had a 8v8 game --- the only real way to play.<br />
:I think z-man has been experimenting with tags, and numbers of players, with perhaps one player as substitute. I think it may be useful in the future, if z-man gave temporary admin status to team-captains for example, to determine the number of players each team has etc. Either that, or we as players just make damned sure we have 8 players in our teams, and we arrive on time... Which is what happens in the real world most of the time...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
<br />
I agree with 2020...good game, quite easy. I don't know what happened during the second match. We won...<br />
Nothing more to say../<br />
<br />
;from Oblivion<br />
<br />
It was fun we owned the first match, and the second one we had a bit of trouble. I look forward to practicing the fork tommorow, if we get that move down we might be able to take on ?? and maybe even put up a good fight if not win! This was a very easy tourney, I think people could grind a bit heavier though.<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
;From PsYko<br />
:z-man should give temporary boot privelages to team admins..<br />
<br />
;From featherfcuk<br />
:Not to Vanhayes though... Canadians are always powerfreaks, he's deemed to abuse that priviledge!<br />
<br />
;Van<br />
:no, no its pronounced CANADIAN not AMERICAN, u know canada the peacekeepers of the world?. And Use discussioin page u noobs.<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3781Anarchic wanderers2006-04-12T22:26:22Z<p>Oblivion: /* 6.4.12.20.0 */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==team positions==<br />
Although we may not know who will turn up, and how many opponents turn up, I think it may be a good idea to suggest what our prefered starting positions are. We need names for the different positions (point, wing, back, centre, that kind of thing), but we also should be familiar with the number of each position. Centre position is 1, first left is 2, first right is 3, and so on... so odd numbers are on the right; from left to right: 8 6 4 2 1(centre) 3 5 7. And remember, the reason why you may not end up in the position you wish for is because someone else has just moved altering the positions again....<br />
; 8 back<br />
:Probably for the goalie position...<br />
; 6 outside wing left<br />
:Probably for sweep left position...<br />
:2020 likes this position...<br />
; 4 centre wing left<br />
:Useful to grind the inside wingman who might be doubling back (supergrinding)... Probably midfield position... Probably defencive...<br />
; 2 inside wing left<br />
:Prime position for doubling-back... usually first player to meet the attacking force...<br />
:2020 likes this position too...<br />
; 1 centre point<br />
:If inside wings do normal grind, then centre will be the fastest player hitting the opponents... Otherwise, with double-grinding to either side, it can get scary... Some players like to try to go down the centre of the opponents grind... takes timing and skill...<br />
:2020 sometimes likes this...<br />
; 3 inside wing right<br />
:Doubling back is an option, and some players manage to get fantastic speeds and can outflank opponents quickly...<br />
:2020 sometimes likes this position.... This left side is more offensive potentially. If the inside wing on the right takes the flank, there are two players behind who should probably follow through...<br />
; 5 centre wing right<br />
:Grinding maybe 3 or 3.5 enables a good super-grind for inside wing... Generally a midfield play, though be prepared to follow the inside wingman if outflanking opponents quickly.<br />
; 7 outside wing right<br />
:Usually defensive, but has the option of following the entire wing if there is a fast break against opponents. Sweep position left.<br />
:2020's prefered position.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
:'''TO GET ON SPOON SERVER YOU MUST USE THESE TAGS THIS WILL WORK [TSS]INSERT_NAME_HERE-AW THIS WILL WORK TO GET ON SERVER AND WILL WORK TO RECOGNIZE TEAM!'''<br />
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== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
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||'''FE''':UNKNOWN IF THEY ARE IN SPOON.<br />
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|'''Lobster Mafia''':UNKNOWN TIMES<br />
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'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
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== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
:Crazy Tronners(CT):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
|}<br />
[[THE_SPOON_SEED_RESULTS|Seed Results]]<br />
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comments on them posted here<br />
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:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
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===6.4.12.20.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:The game went well from my point of view, at the back. We won the first game relatively easily, though Crazy Tronners put up a good fight in the second and nearly snatched it away from us: winner of the last game would win the match. It took ages to get down to playing though, with team-tags and all that gas... with players popping in and out - I think Garisimo's baby nearly choked to death so he had to leave at the beginning of the second match. And there was a lot of uncertainty as to whether we were playing a time-out match or not... Once ghab came, we had a full team, and luckily someone on the opponents team also appeared so we had a 8v8 game --- the only real way to play.<br />
:I think z-man has been experimenting with tags, and numbers of players, with perhaps one player as substitute. I think it may be useful in the future, if z-man gave temporary admin status to team-captains for example, to determine the number of players each team has etc. Either that, or we as players just make damned sure we have 8 players in our teams, and we arrive on time... Which is what happens in the real world most of the time...<br />
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;from ghableska<br />
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I agree with 2020...good game, quite easy. I don't know what happened during the second match. We won...<br />
Nothing more to say../<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
<br />
It was fun we owned the first match, and the second one we had a bit of trouble. I look forward to practicing the fork tommorow, if we get that move down we might be able to take on ?? and maybe even put up a good fight if not win! This was a very easy tourney, I think people could grind a bit heavier though.<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
;From PsYko<br />
:z-man should give temporary boot privelages to team admins..<br />
<br />
;From featherfcuk<br />
:Not to Vanhayes though... Canadians are always powerfreaks, he's deemed to abuse that priviledge!<br />
<br />
;Van<br />
:no, no its pronounced CANADIAN not AMERICAN, u know canada the peacekeepers of the world?. And Use discussioin page u noobs.<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Talk:Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3768Talk:Anarchic wanderers2006-04-12T21:10:06Z<p>Oblivion: /* Talk Page */</p>
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<div>;Use [http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc This] to convert Timzones.<br />
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<br />
== RollCall ==<br />
<br />
;Ok rolecall for whoever can make it to match against CT, if u see anyone on the team please tell them date and time (which is Wendsday April 12 at 2000 GMT)<br />
<br />
;Post names here if you '''''CAN''''' make it or know if someone else can. <br />
<br />
Vanhayes, gArIsImo, madmax, featherfcuk (I can't make Wendsday, but I can make Wednesday), 2020 - the real one, ghableska (if you can somehow delay the match by 15 minutes or so, I can make it -- will do our best : ) tho remember there will be intermediary matches for cooling off...)<br />
<br />
== Talk Page ==<br />
<br />
;~~''NOTICE''~~<br />
<br />
:'''For match against CT there will be a timeout match in between real ones and no winzones whatsoever!'''<br />
<br />
; garis<br />
:i just posted the time up above for hayes<br />
<br />
;featherfcuk<br />
:What is the time for the CT match?<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
Hey is it ok if i join your team i think i have enough skill ;) I can try out if you want me to i just got 2.8.1 :) I wanna go kick some ass with the wanderers! I may not be able to make the practice times but ill practice multiple hours every day! I swear!<br />
<br />
;Oblivion <br />
I seriously think we should get everybody together on thursday and practice the fork, if we need points really bad i think it would be good to surprise the enemy be using that move!It could come of good use! The move has a lot of potential!<br />
<br />
;featherfcuk<br />
:Damn that Pimp.. almost ruined the thing. Luckily it was great and we sure kicked some Metal Based Carbon's arse! Anyway... I can't upload images, there seems to be a problem with the wiki, I just get a syntax error or something. Also, does anyone know if we can get a better index, like the one The Knights of Ni have? Or maybe there's a better way to navigate this page? I just always go to recent changes and look.<br />
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;Van<br />
:Sorry about leaving at start, got banned for 345 or so minutes because I was polling,God I hate Pimp, hope u guys kicked ass and if not good try.( but probly Kicked ass)<br />
<br />
;John Henderson<br />
:Thank you. It sure is an honour to be here. I was talking about this team to my wife, while shaving my head and sucking on her toenail clippings, and she thinks we will be the first Tron champions in history. I think it's a pretty safe bet.<br />
<br />
;Van<br />
:hmm John henderson eh? well wellcome to AW. <br />
<br />
;PsYkO<br />
: Hey guys, since me and Hayez0rz are admins...can you all please post your e-mail accounts and I will send mass emails for practices, matches, etc.<br />
<br />
Van's is lamb--chop@hotmail.com / <br />
2020@davidpinto.org / <br />
feather - eirikurj@gmail.com /<br />
madmax.ptz@gmail.com<br />
ghab - ghableska@gmail.com/<br />
garisimo@aol.com/<br />
<br />
;SOMEONE PLEASE GET THE OTHER'S EMAILS FOR ME THANKS <br />
<br />
; gArIsImO<br />
May I suggest #1 to post newer messages above this one? and keep a chronological order to this??? think of looking at your emails in outlook...<br />
What an impressive match that was with team SS...although I thought we could have definitely have had them if Hayes didn't die 5 times and Psyk didn't dissapear all of a sudden! we had them! As far as Strategies...let me know where I can post the (garisimo defensive and offensive strategies....) thanks yall those were some exciting matches again!<br />
<br />
;featherfcuk<br />
:I posted a strategy form.. this is just to show you how we can display strategies. 2020: if you want I can make the fork strategy for you.......... YES PLEASE heheheh<br />
<br />
;PsYkO<br />
Can someone putting in the GMT times put in the EST times as well? and central times if you live there? Would help a lot..BTW sorry I missed the practice today the wiki page wouldn't load and I just decided to play AoE3 lol<br />
<br />
<br />
;From PsYkO<br />
:COME ON GUYS!! we are only getting like 3-5 people in each of our practices =/ WE need to become more of a team..<br />
:Please everyone put these messages into your instant chats<br />
:MAKE A HOLE FOR ME!<br />
:I'M MAKING A HOLE!<br />
:If it is 3v1 which a lot of times it will be..if we make a good hole it is like 99% chance that we will win..Especially that there are some VERY good defenses that we will be playing<br />
:Maz, lacka, and nemo are very difficult to get into but it cane be done<br />
:However, radian on fe overlaps his wall for the first couple of minutes making it impossible to get in...These are the kind of defenses that we need to put our "morals" aside and hole 'em!!<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:agree with psyko about getting together, messages, and using torps effectively... see suggestions below about practice... oh, and remember if this luci-type organisation goes to pot, keep 9pm gmt 15th sat in your diary free just in case... see [[FUN -- all in one day]]<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:GMT does not mean time at greenwich, since daylight saving screws things up. So, 9pm GMT means 10pm on mainland britain from spring to autumn... not sure what this means to everyone else...<br />
<br />
<br />
;featherfcuk<br />
:The timeout has to have some rules. Team Something Something called timeout because PsYkO left, but nobody noticed. Timeouts should only be allowed when a key player leaves without a word or if there's a bad mixup in the lineup, like when we change teams and change back to move in the lineup but get stuck in the other team.<br />
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;Oblivion<br />
:Hey can I be wingman next time. I hated it this time i couldnt get enough speed. I know if i could just get to there zone i could shake shake em up real good. Would you give me a chance as wingman on Thursday and see if im good enough :)</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3767Anarchic wanderers2006-04-12T21:05:38Z<p>Oblivion: /* The Spoon Game History */</p>
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<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
:'''TO GET ON SPOON SERVER YOU MUST USE THESE TAGS THIS WILL WORK [TSS]INSERT_NAME_HERE-AW THIS WILL WORK TO GET ON SERVER AND WILL WORK TO RECOGNIZE TEAM!'''<br />
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== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
<br />
||'''FE''':UNKNOWN IF THEY ARE IN SPOON.<br />
<br />
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|'''Lobster Mafia''':UNKNOWN TIMES<br />
|}<br />
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'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
:Crazy Tronners(CT):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
|}<br />
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comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
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===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
;From PsYko<br />
:z-man should give temporary boot privelages to team admins..<br />
<br />
;From featherfcuk<br />
:Not to Vanhayes though... Canadians are always powerfreaks, he's deemed to abuse that priviledge!<br />
<br />
;Van<br />
:no, no its pronounced CANADIAN not AMERICAN, u know canada the peacekeepers of the world?. And Use discussioin page u noobs.<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3757Anarchic wanderers2006-04-12T16:58:07Z<p>Oblivion: /* who and why */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
:'''TO GET ON SPOON SERVER YOU MUST USE THESE TAGS THIS WILL WORK [TSS]INSERT_NAME_HERE-AW THIS WILL WORK TO GET ON SERVER AND WILL WORK TO RECOGNIZE TEAM!'''<br />
<br />
== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|'''Crazy Tronners''': <br />
Wendsday April 12 at 20:00 GMT.<br />
<br />
||'''FE''':<br />
Maybe Thursday, April 13, at 20:00 Gmt.Maybe<br />
<br />
|'''Lobster Mafia''':<br />
<br />
|'''~"XzL.Accel Clan''':<br />
'''NOT PARTICIPATING'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
<br />
*** I'm having some trouble uploading the pictures, there's always a syntax error or something. ***<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
;From PsYko<br />
:z-man should give temporary boot privelages to team admins..<br />
<br />
;From featherfcuk<br />
:Not to Vanhayes though... Canadians are always powerfreaks, he's deemed to abuse that priviledge!<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
Hey is it ok if i join your team i think i have enough skill ;) I can try out if you want me to i just got 2.8.1 :) I wanna go kick some ass with the wanderers! I may not be able to make the practice times but ill practice multiple hours every day! I swear!<br />
;Oblivion <br />
I seriously think we should get everybody together on thursday and practice the fork, if we need points really bad i think it would be good to surprise the enemy be using that move!It could come of good use! The move has a lot of potential!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3744Anarchic wanderers2006-04-11T22:46:01Z<p>Oblivion: /* 6.4.5.21.0 */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|'''Crazy Tronners''': <br />
Wendsday April 12 at 20:00 GMT.<br />
<br />
||'''FE''':<br />
Maybe Thursday, April 13, at 20:00 Gmt.Maybe<br />
<br />
|'''Lobster Mafia''':<br />
<br />
|'''~"XzL.Accel Clan''':<br />
'''NOT PARTICIPATING'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
<br />
*** I'm having some trouble uploading the pictures, there's always a syntax error or something. ***<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
Hey is it ok if i join your team i think i have enough skill ;) I can try out if you want me to i just got 2.8.1 :) I wanna go kick some ass with the wanderers! I may not be able to make the practice times but ill practice multiple hours every day! I swear!<br />
;Oblivion <br />
I seriously think we should get everybody together on thursday and practice the fork, if we need points really bad i think it would be good to surprise the enemy be using that move!It could come of good use! The move has a lot of potential!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3720Anarchic wanderers2006-04-11T03:50:32Z<p>Oblivion: /* 6.4.5.21.0 */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|'''Crazy Tronners''': <br />
Wendsday April 12 at 20:00 GMT.<br />
<br />
||'''FE''':<br />
Maybe Thursday, April 13, at 20:00 Gmt.Maybe<br />
<br />
|'''Lobster Mafia''':<br />
<br />
|'''~"XzL.Accel Clan''':<br />
'''NOT PARTICIPATING'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
<br />
*** I'm having some trouble uploading the pictures, there's always a syntax error or something. ***<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
Hey is it ok if i join your team i think i have enough skill ;) I can try out if you want me to i just got 2.8.1 :) I wanna go kick some ass with the wanderers! I may not be able to make the practice times but ill practice multiple hours every day! I swear!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3719Anarchic wanderers2006-04-11T03:49:20Z<p>Oblivion: </p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|'''Crazy Tronners''': <br />
Wendsday April 12 at 20:00 GMT.<br />
<br />
||'''FE''':<br />
Maybe Thursday, April 13, at 20:00 Gmt.Maybe<br />
<br />
|'''Lobster Mafia''':<br />
<br />
|'''~"XzL.Accel Clan''':<br />
'''NOT PARTICIPATING'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
<br />
*** I'm having some trouble uploading the pictures, there's always a syntax error or something. ***<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!<br />
<br />
;Oblivion<br />
Hey is it ok if i join your team i think i have enough skill ;) I can try out if you want me to i just got 2.8.1 :) I wanna go kick some ass with the wanderers!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Team_List&diff=3716Team List2006-04-11T02:01:22Z<p>Oblivion: /* anarchic wanderers */</p>
<hr />
<div>Feel free to contribute your name to the lists here. If you are not affiliated, then add your name to one of the random team lists eg team somethingsomething, fighting smegheads, or [[anarchic wanderers]], otherwise use one of the teams that is organised by your clan. Finally, if you are new to the game since 0.2.8 came out recently and you still want to play... join the noob.2.8 team unless you get invited to an existing team... or create your own...<br><br />
Could you make sure you are only on one team list. And, at some point, if there are more than 8 players on a team... work out what to do about that when the time comes to play...<br />
<br />
==[[fe goes spoon]]==<br />
<br />
* '''[fe]Speed'''<br />
* [fe]meriton (permitting time and a sufficiently large team)<br />
* [fe]belenus (same as meriton)<br />
* [fe]Ossi <br />
* [fe]radian sounds good..im,e up for it<br />
* [fe]Nazgul hmmm...<br />
* [fe]Hunter =)<br />
*[fe]sky<br />
<br />
==[[MBC (Tronic SPOON)|mbc-clan]]==<br />
* amboosh |mbc|<br />
* demomatt |mbc|<br />
* Eagle Eye |mbc|<br />
* ender |mbc|<br />
* fireball |mbc|<br />
* ota|mbc|<br />
* wizzee |mbc|<br />
* wrtlprnft |mbc|<br />
<br />
==~"XzL.Accel Clan==<br />
'''Sorry, we are not going to get to play.'''<br />
* ~"XzL.Abby<br />
* ~"XzL.Ace<br />
* ~"XzL.Destructo<br />
* ~"XzL.Punch<br />
* ~"XzL.Rebel<br />
* ~"XzL.Shaggy<br />
* ~"XzL.Solidus<br />
* ~"XzL.Smart<br />
<br />
== [[Knights of Ni]] ==<br />
'''Ni!'''<br />
* Lucifer<br />
* anjori<br />
* Your_mom<br />
* Dookatee (mkzelda)<br />
* Tank Program<br />
* hang3r<br />
* hank<br />
* Manta<br />
* Cray Supercom<br />
<br />
==Lobster Mafia==<br />
'''Left Claw North, Right Claw South! >-;;,ccc3'''<br />
* DrJoeTron<br />
* Kamp<br />
* Gomes<br />
* Sepiku<br />
* Fonkay<br />
* LinuxLizzard<br />
* Invader<br />
* Gopherman<br />
* TiS<br />
<br />
==[[anarchic wanderers]]==<br />
* Vanhayes - admin<br />
* psyko - admin<br />
* 2020<br />
* ghableska<br />
* featherfcuk<br />
* madmax<br />
* TBL<br />
* 127.0.0.1<br />
* gArIsImO<br />
* Pyr0tek<br />
* zop (as joker... or wild-card... will play for any team with incomplete team... a true anarchist)<br />
* Oblivion- Im ready to kick some a$$ with the Archanic Wanderers! Ill own em all!<br />
<br />
==-=:[Clan]== [http://mec-clan.character48.com Clan Site]<br />
* -=:[zero]<br />
* -=:[Broken]<br />
* -=:[the_ungawa]<br />
* -=:[Joker]<br />
<br />
==[[Team somethingsomething]]==<br />
* [??]Lackadaisical<br />
* [??]MaZuffeR<br />
* [??]nemostultae<br />
* [??]Pez<br />
* [??]Gnorty<br />
* [??]click<br />
* [??]Pavelo<br />
* [??]newbie<br />
* [??]eggcozy<br />
<br />
==[Crazy Tronners]== [http://tron.plantpeanuts.co.uk Clan Site]<br />
'''Sing with us: lalalala!'''<br />
* [[User:xevic|Xevi.C]]<br />
* ed<br />
* Skip<br />
* 1394-freak<br />
* The King<br />
* D3m0n<br />
* Om3g4<br />
* Tchii<br />
* [nrx]<br />
* Robed<br />
* Error<br />
* Shadow<br />
* 4400<br />
* And others<br />
<br />
==noob.2.8==<br />
* joda.bot (if I can I will join a team)<br />
* psyko - you can join our team :-P<br />
In case noobs want to join in... PM [[User:2020|2020]] if you need help...</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3715Anarchic wanderers2006-04-11T02:00:00Z<p>Oblivion: /* 6.4.5.21.0 */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|'''Crazy Tronners''': <br />
Wendsday April 12 at 20:00 GMT.<br />
<br />
||'''FE''':<br />
Maybe Thursday, April 13, at 20:00 Gmt.Maybe<br />
<br />
|'''Lobster Mafia''':<br />
<br />
|'''~"XzL.Accel Clan''':<br />
'''NOT PARTICIPATING'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
<br />
*** I'm having some trouble uploading the pictures, there's always a syntax error or something. ***<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!</div>Oblivionhttp://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=Anarchic_wanderers&diff=3714Anarchic wanderers2006-04-11T01:59:06Z<p>Oblivion: /* previous games */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:anarchic2.jpg]]<br><br />
We are evolving. Originally, the Anarchic Wanderers was merely a list of players who wanted to shadowbox fe-clan. Hence, it is not a clan. We managed one game; read about it [[6.3.8.0.5|here]].<br />
<br />
We are now at the stage of setting up [[THE SPOON]] tournament. Get involved in the discussion and promote what appeals to you.<br />
<br />
Trying to orchastrate a game is a bit tricky... I like the idea of getting together through something like Skype so we can speak together and type if necessary, plan times and strategy even. A current plan is to practice on Z-man's SPOON fortress server, to see if we can experiment with some new launches and things... <br />
<br />
Names are presented below, but this has changed and may change again... invite whoever... and presumably at some stage, probably on the day, we decide amoungst the players who attend...<br />
<br />
==strategy experiments==<br />
I would like to try out different launches other than the standard pencil grind where everyone grinds to centre and encounter the enemy at the impact zone roughly in the middle of the arena.<br />
;regular game play<br />
[[Image:gameplay.jpg]]<br />
;the fork<br />
: 3 grind right almost immediate, 3 left, and only 2 go straight. <br />
[[Image:fork1.jpg|center]] <br />
: 3 are needed to pick up enough speed. What they do depends on many factors. Perhaps they want to attack, perhaps double back and defend. But to start, play around with the option of the centre two being defence. Perhaps they split either way, create a little wall, perhaps they double back and maze to defend the zone... who knows....<br />
<br />
;Recording gameplay..<br />
:Hey what do you guys think if one of us gets a screen recorder and records some of our matches or in CVS fortress? Like I would start recording in CVS if I was middle and post to show how much pwnidge I am at mid :PPPPPPPP<br />
: But yeh..what joo guys think about recording our matches?<br />
:2020: yeah... i don't mind recording... but what's the point... we all going to look at the games and suggest new strategies... hehehe<br />
: ghableska I'm a bit confused. To record, you go to the AA Record, but where are the files saved, and what program do you use to open the recordings?----- '''Van''':Mine just go to my desktop, Use AA playback to "playback" your recording.<br />
<br />
==who and why==<br />
;PsYkO<br />
:'''MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH''' =_+<br />
;2020<br />
:I want to practice some strategies at the team level... new launches... new ways of breaking... and see if there are some flank tactics or pair tactics that may emerge...<br />
:Started working, so restricted playtime :( ... tell me when and where...<br />
:Skype me: Fidocancan<br />
;MaZuffeR<br />
:Why? Why not. ;)<br />
:Avaible almost always, preferred times between 4pm and 11pm GMT.<br />
;Lackadaisical<br />
:Because playing against the people here/people in fe is better than playing against random people.<br />
:Playing whenever, but not always under this name, I guess i'm mostly available between 18PM-01AM GMT<br />
;ghableska<br />
:Same explanation as MaZ. In addition, it's fun and good practice.<br />
:Weekdays are a bit iffy, but on weekends, I'm fine with 8pm GMT to whenever....<br />
:Skype me: ghableska<br />
;[[User:Wrtlprnft|Wrtlprnft]]<br />
:Why? To have fun of course :)<br />
:Times between 12AM and 4AM GMT are the ones I prefer. I have no skype, you can find me over [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC] on irc://freenode.org on the #armagetron channel, or just /msg me with my regular nick.<br />
:In case MBC is involved in the fight... well, I guess I'll fight for them :)<br />
;Vanhayes <br />
:Because I Like Fortress, and want to take on the clans, eh.<br />
:Usually availible between 4 pm and 9pm GMT-3, eh.<br />
;Featherfcuk<br />
:Because I'm a damn addict and I want a stronger fix. Also, I'm tired of the same strategy and would like to try something new..<br />
:Available: usually always.<br />
;madmax<br />
:For the fun of playing with good players, and against good players. Not some messy random CVS game.<br />
:Usually free from 17:00 GMT and 0:00 GMT, on weekends, 2:00 GMT, or something like that. =)<br />
;TBL<br />
:Jeffery Lebowski aka "The Dude", Venice Beach, Los Angeles, CA<br />
:The Dude is not the kind of man that likes being tied down, so clans are a no go. Losely based teams however are fine. <br />
:The Dude also enjoys talking about him self in 3rd person, bowling, acid flashbacks and driving around.<br />
:The Dude is also available around evening GMT times, and fortress is his preferred fix.<br />
<br />
== '''Message''' ==<br />
<br />
;From Van <br />
: ok this page was getting a little too messy so from now on would anyone who wants to post a messege use the talk page.<br />
:To use talk page click on [http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:Anarchic_wanderers Discussion] at very top of this page, where I have moved the previous messages, Thank you.<br />
<br />
== Planned matches ==<br />
'''If Anyone has problems with any times plz post on talk page.'''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|'''Crazy Tronners''': <br />
Wendsday April 12 at 20:00 GMT.<br />
<br />
||'''FE''':<br />
Maybe Thursday, April 13, at 20:00 Gmt.Maybe<br />
<br />
|'''Lobster Mafia''':<br />
<br />
|'''~"XzL.Accel Clan''':<br />
'''NOT PARTICIPATING'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
'''PRACTICE TIMES'''<br />
:O.K times will be every tuesday and thursday at 8 pm or 20 00 GMT (that's 9pm if you are living in UK due to summertime lightsaving rubbish...)<br />
:if anyone has problem with these times or days plz post a good time for you here and we will work on it:<br />
<br />
== The Spoon Game History ==<br />
'''''History of matches '''''<br />
{|<br />
!<br />
:Something Something(??):'''Lose''' 2-0 for them.<br />
:Knights of Ni(ni):'''Win''' 2-0 for us.<br />
:MBC:'''Win''' 2-1 for us.<br />
<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
comments on them posted here<br />
<br />
:Here are the scores from the MBC match:<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.01.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.02.jpg]]<br />
[[Media:aw.vs.mbc.03.jpg]]<br />
<br />
*** I'm having some trouble uploading the pictures, there's always a syntax error or something. ***<br />
<br />
===6.4.9.22.0===<br />
;from 2020<br />
:Messy game. They only had four players, so Zop played for them and Van left. We had madmax, 127.0.1 (though I think this was psyko in disguise? maybe?), featherfcuk, and garisimo, and ghab entered late but left before I could sub off... Then one of them left and sky replaced them... then gar left to find another player for them... very messy.... Still, we lost one game in the middle.... and it was closer than is should have been.... Luckily spidey wasn't playing for them, otherwise we might have been in more trouble... Anything interesting about the play....? Nope, don't think we tried anything unusual.... still waiting for the day when we can try different launches... OH, one thing: with only 5v5 there were people entering all the time... what a bore... either we need full teams or a way of closing the game once it has started...<br />
<br />
===6.4.8.22.0===<br />
<br />
;from 2020<br />
:much more relaxed game... and winning the first match makes it much easier... best of 3 is very tough... I died a lot... but thankfully Van and Psyko and Zop and Ghab pulled the game out of the bag with their incredible skills.... Wow... what a game... pity we didn't have 8v8 though... I think that is when it is crazy....<br />
:Oh, me and ghab were chatting on Skype during the whole thing... which didn't reduce my ping... it was kind of useful... it would be nice if we were all connected on the team...<br />
:Finally... it would be nice to have some kind of debriefing... so we as a team can talk about the game.. how we felt etc.... Any fresh ideas about how it went and so on...<br />
<br />
;from ghableska<br />
:I agree with 2020, it was IMHO a lot easier, and relaxed. The games seemed to move a lot slower than our matches against the Somethingsomething. I had some keyboard troubles and had to quit in the middle of the game and restart. And we believe (hopefully) that a fake Lucifer came in. And we kicked him. Other than that, it was quite normal.<br />
<br />
;from Van<br />
:Ya it was a more relaxed game, first match wasnt too hard but second one had me worried when they took the lead. Without 8vs8 we had to constantly kick people though, which is annoying but really doesnt effect much. O ya and that ''was'' a fake luci, it was really pimp.<br />
<br />
;from PsYkO<br />
:Omg by the end of that 2nd match my fingers were so mangled..I think the key to winning these things is to STAY ALIVE. Do anything necessary to stay alive. GOD DAMMIT CANT WAIT TO PLAY MBC rofl<br />
<br />
===6.4.5.21.0===<br />
<br />
;van<br />
:Something Something (??)- beat us 2-0 of best outa 3 matches, close ones but WD to them<br />
<br />
;ghableska<br />
:We had a match against the SomethingSomething team today. And we lost. It's very easy to see the difference when you play games on CVS and here. The games were much tougher and intense. I hope that our team can get a strategy soon, or else......<br />
<br />
;2020<br />
:Crazy game... stress was huge... I played ok, but didn't feel good at any time apart from keeping maz back for ages during one round; the only time I felt really useful... An interesting idea that came up was feather's Time-out, but I think we have to wait before introducing this.... I think the rules should be firm: play the best of 3 straight through... no excuses. I mean, Psyko disappeared near the end of the first game, which threw me, and then reappeared at the start of the next... if this happens... we just have to play through.... Anyhoooo -- great game, loved it... bring it on...<br />
:By the way, who played...?<br />
<br />
;Lackadaisical [??]<br />
:Yeah, the timeout thing was a bit hazy, it would be better if we had talked about it before the game took place, but oh well, better luck next time. I really think we should make the play offs a best of five, since this was a bit too short imho (quote someone: 'i finally warmed up, 2 matches too late'). Pavelo made a (debug) recording, its 4.2 megs packed, but i'm not sure if/when he's going to put them online. Good games, hope to see you in the playoffs.<br />
<br />
;gArIsImO<br />
I was very impressed with the level of skill from team ?? ....could this possibly be a preview of the final match????????? more to come...<br />
I definitely agree with Lacks on the best of 5 match for the playoff pix. we should also think about scheduling the tournament at ONE time in ONE place so we can have people watch as well (so long as it does not affect the LAG factor)...<br />
<br />
Cheers!<br />
<br />
Hey can i participate in the next tourney i just got 2.8.1 I promise im ready to kick some a$$ with the archanic wanderers!</div>Oblivion