THE CUP - Revision history

Cadillac at 17:58, 27 August 2021

2021-08-27T17:58:28Z

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	Feel free to create any new categories as well list ideas and mechanisms that don't fit the format above. Make use of the discussion options for each page, and use the forums to voice ideas to see if anyone else has been thinking the same things you have been...		Feel free to create any new categories as well list ideas and mechanisms that don't fit the format above. Make use of the discussion options for each page, and use the forums to voice ideas to see if anyone else has been thinking the same things you have been...

	[[Category:~~Tournaments]]~~		[[Category:The Cup]]
	~~[[Category:TRONIC~~]]

Cadillac at 23:57, 23 August 2021

2021-08-23T23:57:37Z

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			[[Category:Tournaments]]
	[[Category:TRONIC]]		[[Category:TRONIC]]

Sinewav: added category

2021-06-03T22:38:34Z

added category

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	=other ideas which don't fit the categories that well=		=other ideas which don't fit the categories that well=
	Feel free to create any new categories as well list ideas and mechanisms that don't fit the format above. Make use of the discussion options for each page, and use the forums to voice ideas to see if anyone else has been thinking the same things you have been...		Feel free to create any new categories as well list ideas and mechanisms that don't fit the format above. Make use of the discussion options for each page, and use the forums to voice ideas to see if anyone else has been thinking the same things you have been...

			[[Category:TRONIC]]

Jonathan: random 1000s inserted

2007-07-01T00:47:41Z

random 1000s inserted

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	Ideally, 1,000,000 players congregate on servers dotted around the planet, competing in Fortress teams, until the final team wins THE TRONIC CUP. How it all goes ahead is determined by players contributing ideas here, and there are different ways of arranged these thoughts; what follows is one way. Feel free to add to the list under any category and please remember that all editions are [[contributor's		Ideally, 1,000,000 players congregate on servers dotted around the planet, competing in Fortress teams, until the final team wins THE TRONIC CUP. How it all goes ahead is determined by players contributing ideas here, and there are different ways of arranged these thoughts; what follows is one way. Feel free to add to the list under any category and please remember that all editions are [[contributor's guidelines\|constructive]].
	~~1000~~
	guidelines\|constructive]].


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	==money distribution==		==money distribution==
	How is the money reallocated? What the percentages to players, developers, designers? Since this is not a major incentive for the original designers, and since the game has been developed through free open-source philosophy, money MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to make the game heavy. The [[flow of money]] should be simple, clean and clear, with no aggregation in any body or collective. It is a matter of redistribution of money from individuals to individuals, with no residue, nothing to clogg up our enjoyment; merely a way of redirecting money to those who deserve it (primarily the designers fo		How is the money reallocated? What the percentages to players, developers, designers? Since this is not a major incentive for the original designers, and since the game has been developed through free open-source philosophy, money MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to make the game heavy. The [[flow of money]] should be simple, clean and clear, with no aggregation in any body or collective. It is a matter of redistribution of money from individuals to individuals, with no residue, nothing to clogg up our enjoyment; merely a way of redirecting money to those who deserve it (primarily the designers for their vision, the programmers for their work, and the players for their evident skill).
	~~1000~~
	r their vision, the programmers for their work, and the players for their evident skill).
	:[[forty-forty-twenty]]		:[[forty-forty-twenty]]
	:[[trust those who do not ask for our money]]		:[[trust those who do not ask for our money]]

202.196.33.3 at 00:30, 1 July 2007

2007-07-01T00:30:07Z

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	Ideally, 1,000,000 players congregate on servers dotted around the planet, competing in Fortress teams, until the final team wins THE TRONIC CUP. How it all goes ahead is determined by players contributing ideas here, and there are different ways of arranged these thoughts; what follows is one way. Feel free to add to the list under any category and please remember that all editions are [[contributor's guidelines\|constructive]].		Ideally, 1,000,000 players congregate on servers dotted around the planet, competing in Fortress teams, until the final team wins THE TRONIC CUP. How it all goes ahead is determined by players contributing ideas here, and there are different ways of arranged these thoughts; what follows is one way. Feel free to add to the list under any category and please remember that all editions are [[contributor's
			1000
			guidelines\|constructive]].


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	==money distribution==		==money distribution==
	How is the money reallocated? What the percentages to players, developers, designers? Since this is not a major incentive for the original designers, and since the game has been developed through free open-source philosophy, money MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to make the game heavy. The [[flow of money]] should be simple, clean and clear, with no aggregation in any body or collective. It is a matter of redistribution of money from individuals to individuals, with no residue, nothing to clogg up our enjoyment; merely a way of redirecting money to those who deserve it (primarily the designers ~~for~~ their vision, the programmers for their work, and the players for their evident skill).		How is the money reallocated? What the percentages to players, developers, designers? Since this is not a major incentive for the original designers, and since the game has been developed through free open-source philosophy, money MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to make the game heavy. The [[flow of money]] should be simple, clean and clear, with no aggregation in any body or collective. It is a matter of redistribution of money from individuals to individuals, with no residue, nothing to clogg up our enjoyment; merely a way of redirecting money to those who deserve it (primarily the designers fo
			1000
			r their vision, the programmers for their work, and the players for their evident skill).
	:[[forty-forty-twenty]]		:[[forty-forty-twenty]]
	:[[trust those who do not ask for our money]]		:[[trust those who do not ask for our money]]

2020: /* preparations */

2006-05-21T20:04:08Z

preparations

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	=preparations=		=preparations=
	At this stage ([[tronic\|TRONICv1.3]]), it is too early to be precise with any plans, however the long-view thinkers amoungst us may have some vague notions of how such an event may be realised. We have learned a lot from [[THE SPOON]] competition. Perhaps the most impressive thing was how the seeding round lasted for 2 weeks and consisted of 14 games whereas the play-offs lasted over 5 weeks and homed only 2 games. This will become more precise after the competitions for[[THE LADLE]] and [[THE BOWL]] have been done, especially the last which should have taken place 6 months before the competition of the TRONIC CUP. Most of the work shall be done in preparation so that the event may have the chance of running smoothly.		At this stage ([[tronic\|TRONICv1.3]]), it is too early to be precise with any plans, however the long-view thinkers amoungst us may have some vague notions of how such an event may be realised. We have learned a lot from [[THE SPOON]] competition. Perhaps the most impressive thing was how the seeding round lasted for 2 weeks and consisted of 14 games whereas the play-offs lasted over 5 weeks and homed only 2 games. This will become more precise after the competitions for [[THE LADLE]] and [[THE BOWL]] have been done, especially the last which should have taken place 6 months before the competition of the TRONIC CUP. Most of the work shall be done in preparation so that the event may have the chance of running smoothly.

	==initial individual registration==		==initial individual registration==

2020 at 20:03, 21 May 2006

2006-05-21T20:03:49Z

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	=preparations=		=preparations=
	At this stage ([[tronic\|TRONICv1.2]]), it is too early to be precise with any plans, however the long-view thinkers amoungst us may have some vague notions of how such an event may be realised. This will become more precise after the competitions for ~~[[THE SPOON]],~~ [[THE LADLE]] and [[THE BOWL]] have been done, especially the last which should have taken place 6 months before the competition of the TRONIC CUP. Most of the work shall be done in preparation so that the event ~~on the day~~ may have the chance of running smoothly.		At this stage ([[tronic\|TRONICv1.3]]), it is too early to be precise with any plans, however the long-view thinkers amoungst us may have some vague notions of how such an event may be realised. We have learned a lot from [[THE SPOON]] competition. Perhaps the most impressive thing was how the seeding round lasted for 2 weeks and consisted of 14 games whereas the play-offs lasted over 5 weeks and homed only 2 games. This will become more precise after the competitions for[[THE LADLE]] and [[THE BOWL]] have been done, especially the last which should have taken place 6 months before the competition of the TRONIC CUP. Most of the work shall be done in preparation so that the event may have the chance of running smoothly.

	==initial individual registration==		==initial individual registration==
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	==team registration==		==team registration==
	Players first have to organise themselves into teams. Perhaps players have the chance of playing on different teams... and as the day of the CUP draws near, they have to make decisions on which teams they play. Perhaps players have the option of playing on different teams. When it comes down to it, the teams need to be registered so that on the day, team-pairing is easy and records of wins and losses are easily tabulated.		Players first have to organise themselves into teams. Perhaps players have the chance of playing on different teams... and as the day of the CUP draws near, they have to make decisions on which teams they play. Perhaps players have the option of playing on different teams. When it comes down to it, the teams need to be registered so that on the day, team-pairing is easy and records of wins and losses are easily tabulated.
	~~:[[finding your team]]~~

	==server allocation==		==server allocation==
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	==standardised fortress settings==		==standardised fortress settings==
	~~Probably as they are on CVS Test Server. Although different servers and clients may translate them, this should as much as possible~~ be standardised~~. Any variation between servers can be a matter of more popular, recommended servers. This should all have~~ been ~~determined at least six months in advance~~.		The Fortess settings must be standardised by the time the BOWL has been played.
	~~:[[winzone activated only with 1v1]]~~
	~~:[[winzone deactivated in finals]]~~
	~~:[[housing a million spectators]]~~
	~~:[[teamchatting]]~~

	==reaching 1,000,000 players==		==reaching 1,000,000 players==
	Something like a marketing strategy. Is it through word of mouth... through advertising.. can players encourage others to join by posting invitations in other game forums? At the root of it all, however, is the game itself. It is essential that the first experience a player has of the game is a pleasurable one, and hence some thought must be paid to how new players are treated. If the growth is exponential (as things seem to be on the net), then at some stage it may be possible to have noob-only servers.		Something like a marketing strategy. Is it through word of mouth... through advertising.. can players encourage others to join by posting invitations in other game forums? At the root of it all, however, is the game itself. It is essential that the first experience a player has of the game is a pleasurable one, and hence some thought must be paid to how new players are treated. If the growth is exponential (as things seem to be on the net), then at some stage it may be possible to have noob-only servers.<br>
	~~:[[word of mouth]]~~		If schools participate, schools from all around the world will host teams which may win the school upto £128,000 for the winning team... damned useful for what started off as a lunch-time club.
	~~:[[entrancing~~ the ~~noobs]]~~

	=the big day=		=the big day=
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	==feasible round-period timing==		==feasible round-period timing==
	Can we play 64,000 games simultaneously? Can we spend as long as may be done in [[THE BOWL]] competition to determine the result of two teams competing?		Can we play 64,000 games simultaneously? Can we spend as long as may be done in [[THE BOWL]] competition to determine the result of two teams competing? To make it feasible, we may have to conduct matches between two teams within 1/2 hour.
	~~:[[basic~~ 1/~~2hour rounds]]~~

	==tracking team-pairings==		==tracking team-pairings==
	Is there a strict order of play sequenced play as most tournaments are organised, or is the first-come first-serve matching of teams organised by themselves? This should have been determined in the previous competition for [[THE BOWL]], with improvements based on the lessons learned there.		Is there a strict order of play sequenced play as most tournaments are organised, or is the first-come first-serve matching of teams organised by themselves? This should have been determined in the previous competition for [[THE BOWL]], with improvements based on the lessons learned there. Based on the first competition, the Spoon, the self-organised seeding round seemed easier than the play-offs with 14 games to 2 games respectively.
	~~:[[traditional knock-out]]~~
	~~:[[~~self-organised ~~pairings]]~~

	==money distribution==		==money distribution==

Dlh: /* initial individual registration */ removed link to $$$ page.

2006-03-16T14:15:40Z

initial individual registration: removed link to $$$ page.

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	==initial individual registration==		==initial individual registration==
	Players can do this now. By investing their £1 now, the set the ball in motion. Click on the paypal button to register your ARMAGETRON name, and remember to include a note of your name in your entryfee.		Players can do this now. By investing their £1 now, the set the ball in motion. Click on the paypal button to register your ARMAGETRON name, and remember to include a note of your name in your entryfee.
	~~:[[£1 €1 $1?]]~~

	==team registration==		==team registration==

2020: /* preparations */

2006-02-28T19:47:44Z

preparations

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	=preparations=		=preparations=
	At this stage ([[tronic\|TRONICv1.2]]), it is too early to be precise with any plans, however the long-view thinkers amoungst us may have some vague notions of how such an event may be realised. This will become more precise after the competitions for [[THE SPOON]], [[THE ~~LADEL~~]] and [[THE BOWL]] have been done, especially the last which should have taken place 6 months before the competition of the TRONIC CUP. Most of the work shall be done in preparation so that the event on the day may have the chance of running smoothly.		At this stage ([[tronic\|TRONICv1.2]]), it is too early to be precise with any plans, however the long-view thinkers amoungst us may have some vague notions of how such an event may be realised. This will become more precise after the competitions for [[THE SPOON]], [[THE LADLE]] and [[THE BOWL]] have been done, especially the last which should have taken place 6 months before the competition of the TRONIC CUP. Most of the work shall be done in preparation so that the event on the day may have the chance of running smoothly.

	==initial individual registration==		==initial individual registration==

2020 at 01:54, 19 February 2006

2006-02-19T01:54:07Z

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	=preparations=		=preparations=
	At this stage (TRONICv1.2), it is too early to be precise with any plans, however the long-view thinkers amoungst us may have some vague notions of how such an event may be realised. This will become more precise after the competitions for [[THE SPOON]], [[THE LADEL]] and [[THE BOWL]] have been done, especially the last which should have taken place 6 months before the competition of the TRONIC CUP. Most of the work shall be done in preparation so that the event on the day may have the chance of running smoothly.		At this stage ([[tronic\|TRONICv1.2]]), it is too early to be precise with any plans, however the long-view thinkers amoungst us may have some vague notions of how such an event may be realised. This will become more precise after the competitions for [[THE SPOON]], [[THE LADEL]] and [[THE BOWL]] have been done, especially the last which should have taken place 6 months before the competition of the TRONIC CUP. Most of the work shall be done in preparation so that the event on the day may have the chance of running smoothly.

	==initial individual registration==		==initial individual registration==
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	==standardised fortress settings==		==standardised fortress settings==
	Probably as they are on CVS Test Server. Although different servers and clients may translate them, this should as much as possible be standardised. Any variation between servers can be a matter of more popular, recommended servers. ~~The most significant factor to determine is the win-zone, and there is plenty of discussion already about this topic~~ in ~~the forums~~.		Probably as they are on CVS Test Server. Although different servers and clients may translate them, this should as much as possible be standardised. Any variation between servers can be a matter of more popular, recommended servers. This should all have been determined at least six months in advance.
	:[[winzone activated only with 1v1]]		:[[winzone activated only with 1v1]]
	:[[winzone deactivated in finals]]		:[[winzone deactivated in finals]]
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	==reaching 1,000,000 players==		==reaching 1,000,000 players==
	Something like a marketing strategy. Is it through word of mouth... through advertising.. can players encourage others to join by posting invitations in other game forums. At the root of it all, however, is the game itself. It is essential that the first experience a player has of the game is a pleasurable one, and hence some thought must be paid to how new players are treated. If the growth is exponential (as things seem to be on the net), then at some stage it may be possible to have noob-only servers.		Something like a marketing strategy. Is it through word of mouth... through advertising.. can players encourage others to join by posting invitations in other game forums? At the root of it all, however, is the game itself. It is essential that the first experience a player has of the game is a pleasurable one, and hence some thought must be paid to how new players are treated. If the growth is exponential (as things seem to be on the net), then at some stage it may be possible to have noob-only servers.
	:[[word of mouth]]		:[[word of mouth]]
	:[[entrancing the noobs]]		:[[entrancing the noobs]]
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	==feasible round-period timing==		==feasible round-period timing==
	~~How is each round run?~~ Can we play 64,000 games simultaneously? Can we spend as long as ~~1/2hour~~ to determine the result of two teams competing?		Can we play 64,000 games simultaneously? Can we spend as long as may be done in [[THE BOWL]] competition to determine the result of two teams competing?
	:[[basic 1/2hour rounds]]		:[[basic 1/2hour rounds]]

	==~~tagging~~ team-pairings==		==tracking team-pairings==
	What is the system that keeps a tag of the teams and results? How do teams pair up in the first place? Is this all determined before the day? Or can this be determined on the day in a close-to-chaos self-organised way? Is there a strict order of play sequenced play as most tournaments are organised, or is the first-come first-serve matching of teams organised by themselves?		Is there a strict order of play sequenced play as most tournaments are organised, or is the first-come first-serve matching of teams organised by themselves? This should have been determined in the previous competition for [[THE BOWL]], with improvements based on the lessons learned there.
	:[[traditional knock-out]]		:[[traditional knock-out]]
	:[[self-organised pairings]]		:[[self-organised pairings]]